Religion/Spirituality A Very Positive Thread About Islam.....

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:wtf: Why u getting emotional. I never seen so much passion, if i didn’t care for something I wouldn’t be wasting time just arguing against it, i would be talking about and alternative. The closest thing to hate is love, I believe deep down inside you want to be a Muslim, but something is holding you back. But when u ready the day will come, always remember I'm proud of u buddy.

You'd like that wouldn't you (sarcasm)

Why? so people like you can continue propagating lies and hatred unchecked?

You guys don't like being pushed back on...that's why when someone goes hard on your religion you tell them to leave it alone and keep it moving so you can continue bullshytting unchecked. The push back is in motion.
 

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You'd like that wouldn't you (sarcasm)

Why? so people like you can continue propagating lies and hatred unchecked?

You guys don't like being pushed back on...that's why when someone goes hard on your religion you tell them to leave it alone and keep it moving so you can continue bullshytting unchecked. The push back is in motion.
Not true..

I hear criticism all the time about Islam.. I used to talk shyt about if before I became one.

What happens here isn't constructive... There are 700 anti islam threads..hardly any positive threads (about any subject). that should tell u something.
 

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Not true..

I hear criticism all the time about Islam.. I used to talk shyt about if before I became one.

What happens here isn't constructive... There are 700 anti islam threads..hardly any positive threads (about any subject). that should tell u something.

tell the truth, your still a Muslim you just shy away from it because you don't want to take responsibility for all the negatives of the religion and you probably also want to look objective in discussions regarding Islam.

But your capping for the religion is revealing.
 

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save all of that scripture quoting.

It's an Arab religion because
1) Arabs concocted it (the word Allah is a Pre-Islamic Pagan Deity)
2) Arabs wrote the text in the language they spoke (Arabic)
3) Arabs elected Muhammad the last messenger
4) Arabs designated Arabia as a holy land

The dominance may not show in the scriptural text because the Quran is a plagiarization. Many of the stories in the book were culled from the Jewish Torah and the Christian Bible.

Ok let's forget about scripture and look at real world examples. Only one of the top eight most populous muslim countries is arab, Where is the history of arab dominant colonist society?Why did they not wipe out the indigenous population of these countries. Why aren’t all these arab countries, where's the arab countries of west africa.
  1. Indonesia
  2. Pakistan
  3. India
  4. Bangladesh
  5. Egypt (Arab)
  6. Nigeria
  7. Iran
  8. Turkey
Let's look at the top populous Christian countries, how about those top 3 Native American Christian Countries.:snoop:
  1. USA
  2. Brazil
  3. Mexico
  4. Philippines
  5. Nigeria
  6. Russia
  7. Congo
  8. Germany
 

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tell the truth, your still a Muslim you just shy away from it because you don't want to take responsibility for all the negatives of the religion and you probably also want to look objective in discussions regarding Islam.

But your capping for the religion is revealing.
I didn't say i wasn't .... I respect it.

I don't shy away from it, but I do go to Church and practice madd other shyt... it's all positive to me.

I wasn't born a Muslim tho - I used to go hard at all organized religion until I got older.
 

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So these black and brown Muslims invented the guitar....

and Teaching Hospitals.
 

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did they do those things because they believe 'allah' holds up the clouds with pillars, or despite it :lupe:

It's sorta like all the art architecture science and technology they took part in to save the world and bring the world out of the dark ages.... It's like when u enter stem or medical fields- u may see many Muslims...

It's damn near Islamic law to encourage science because it helps mankind. It's not really like other religions, because certain Islamic religious shyt can be thrown in the bushes if starvation is at risk, or if something will help out mankind...

Also, the Qur'an sorta mentions the possibility of beings living in places other than Earth and speaks on the stars and astrology... so many of the major advancements in that area have been made by Muslims.

Plus It's commanded to build off the knowledge of others and to (at least try) to be a scholar (as it's honorable ) - so all that knowledge from African and from Christian empires was expanding upon.
 

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http://www.southworld.net/newtest/index.php/2011-07-25-15-56-33/item/275-slave-routes

Slave Routes
Freed slaves on a British boat in 1868. Slaves routes in Kenya, chains at Shimoni and the slave market of Malindi.


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The slave trade in East Africa was conducted under conditions of utmost brutality by Arab merchants. Slave trade in what is today Kenya was largely curtailed by the presence of Maasai. These were perceived to be fierce warriors, a perception greatly amplified by the Kamba who wanted to keep out competitors in their trade in ivory. Yet the Arabs started to make caravan journeys into the interior by mid 1850s. They followed four principal routes. The first track would originate in Mombasa to Mariakani, Kibwezi, Nzaui, Kitui and then curve westwards into Machakos. The modern road linking Nairobi to Mombasa follows that track with very few diversions. A second route was from Takaungu, a small port near Kilifi, into a place called Silala Magogoni, to Ganze then to either Mariakani or Kibwezi. From these the caravan would strike a northwise march into the highlands. The third route would start from Malindi towards Taveta. From there it would curve northwest to the Rift Valley to move west to the shores of Lake Victoria. An alternative route was from Taveta towards the Ngong Hills and then towards the central highlands. This route had many secondary branches reaching Lake Naivasha and Lake Baringo. After the British imposed a ban on transportation of slaves to Zanzibar in 1873, traders established a fourth route. This followed the coastline from Kilwa, Dar es Salaam, Shimoni, Mombasa, to Lamu. Lamu was an important port in the slave trade even before the Arabs took over from the Portuguese.

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Slaves were boarded on dhows at various small ports. Vanga Kuu, on the south coast, was one of these ports. Not far from Vanga is a small village known as Shimoni. The word Shimoni in Swahili means ‘place of the hole’. It was named so because of the presence of a series of caves near the seashore. The caves were used to confine slaves while awaiting shipment to the market in Zanzibar. Old rusted pieces of iron hooks attached to the cave walls are still visible. Malindi, on the north coast, was a rich town. Local plantations and workshops offered much food and commodities for exchange. Slave routes reached Malindi either to board them towards the slave markets in Zanzibar and Muscat, or to trade with the local Swahili population. Western vis
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itors testified that there were public auctions of slaves every Friday in the market located near the two pillar tombs. The slave market was closed in 1885. Slaves were also employed in the plantations between Gede and Malindi. Popular belief says that Jumba la Mtwana, a group of ruins twenty kilometres north of Mombasa, was a slave market. The name Jumba la Mtwana would mean “the hall of slaves”. While it is possible that slaves were kept and traded there, the site seems more a gathering place for Muslim travelling towards the Arabian Peninsula to visit the holy places. From the Kenyan coast, most salves were ferried to the market of Zanzibar for onward shipment to Arabia, Persia, Ind
 

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:ohhh: So you mean to tell me that Not only Asians... BUT ARABS!!! and even ARAB MUSLIMS ..... and my gosh with the help of AFRICANS - participated in slavery.



:wow: All you post are so insightful and put people up on things they didn't previously know.

no problem, im glad i was able to enlighten you
 

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"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

And fight with them until there is no more fitna
(disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah

Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah


Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day marriage" :huhldup:).
 

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"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

And fight with them until there is no more fitna
(disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah

Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah


Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day marriage" :huhldup:).

:stopitslime:

So let us quickly recap this crucial series of events. The Banu Qurayzah signed a treaty alliance and then committed treason. Rather than asking for forgiveness and admitting their error, they continued to oppose the Muslims. Then, rather than accepting Prophet Muhammad’s lighter sentence, they chose an arbitrator, Sa’d bin Mu’adh, who was the chief of their own allies. Sa’d bin Mu’adh then chose to deliver a punishment not in accordance with Islamic law, but in accordance with Jewish Law as written in the Holy Bible. That Jewish law required that the Jews who committed treason be put to death. Therefore, any objective mind can clearly see that Prophet Muhammad is entirely innocent of any wrong doing, and he most certainly did not kill 900 Jews. Indeed, Prophet Muhammad was a lover of humanity and peace.

The Banu Qurayzah, if in fact 900 were killed, were given a fate of their own choosing–and not of the choosing of Prophet Muhammad. This is the factual reality that history records.
 

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:stopitslime:

So let us quickly recap this crucial series of events. The Banu Qurayzah signed a treaty alliance and then committed treason. Rather than asking for forgiveness and admitting their error, they continued to oppose the Muslims. Then, rather than accepting Prophet Muhammad’s lighter sentence, they chose an arbitrator, Sa’d bin Mu’adh, who was the chief of their own allies. Sa’d bin Mu’adh then chose to deliver a punishment not in accordance with Islamic law, but in accordance with Jewish Law as written in the Holy Bible. That Jewish law required that the Jews who committed treason be put to death. Therefore, any objective mind can clearly see that Prophet Muhammad is entirely innocent of any wrong doing, and he most certainly did not kill 900 Jews. Indeed, Prophet Muhammad was a lover of humanity and peace.

The Banu Qurayzah, if in fact 900 were killed, were given a fate of their own choosing–and not of the choosing of Prophet Muhammad. This is the factual reality that history records.
There are like a 1000 Muslim posters on here... most don't speak on Islam because ignorance level about Islam........ AND basic history are just way too high..

If you start with the explanations....and start having to do long post to enlighten the ignorant.... you will be posting all day.

You've been warned.
 

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:stopitslime:

So let us quickly recap this crucial series of events. The Banu Qurayzah signed a treaty alliance and then committed treason. Rather than asking for forgiveness and admitting their error, they continued to oppose the Muslims. Then, rather than accepting Prophet Muhammad’s lighter sentence, they chose an arbitrator, Sa’d bin Mu’adh, who was the chief of their own allies. Sa’d bin Mu’adh then chose to deliver a punishment not in accordance with Islamic law, but in accordance with Jewish Law as written in the Holy Bible. That Jewish law required that the Jews who committed treason be put to death. Therefore, any objective mind can clearly see that Prophet Muhammad is entirely innocent of any wrong doing, and he most certainly did not kill 900 Jews. Indeed, Prophet Muhammad was a lover of humanity and peace.

The Banu Qurayzah, if in fact 900 were killed, were given a fate of their own choosing–and not of the choosing of Prophet Muhammad. This is the factual reality that history records.

:dahell:
is this motherfuker serious? did this dude just write an essay defending genocide using islamic legalese?
 
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