A Tattered Dynasty Is Still a Dynasty: Official 2019-20 Warriors Season Thread

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Thompson: The Warriors waved the white flag on D’Angelo Russell

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By Marcus Thompson II 2h ago
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The Warriors sold low on D’Angelo Russell. They cashed him in early — after all they went through to get him — and took what they could get right now. Doing so provides a clearer picture of the move they made in July after Kevin Durant decided to leave.

We know what they lost when they acquired Russell via sign-and-trade in the Durant deal: Warriors legend Andre Iguodala, a first-round pick and all salary-cap flexibility because they were hard-capped by the move and had to get under the line. But it was all part of a grand scheme that would put them back on top. Getting Russell — a 23-year-old All-Star who would be in a max-salary slot — kept them in the hunt for a bigger move later. Doing nothing would have taken them out of the hunt and into salary-cap hell. This season was the step back for the step up, the wilderness for the eventual return to contender status.

In the end, what did they get out of all that?

In Thursday’s agreement to trade Russell to Minnesota for Andrew Wiggins, the Warriors also got the Timberwolves’ lightly protected first-round pick in 2021, which many say is a better draft than this year. Undoubtedly, some in the organization are presuming Minnesota won’t make the playoffs next season and that first-rounder will be a lottery pick.

They got repeater-tax relief, which I’m told is a big deal to Warriors ownership — savings upward of $60 million, plus the ability to use the non-taxpayer mid-level exception of about $9.7 million (instead of the taxpayer MLE of $6 million).

And they got Wiggins. You will hear the Warriors say he’s a better fit next to Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. They will tout that the inefficient, never-able-to-win player from Minnesota can really start tapping into his potential with the Warriors, surrounded by champions in a system that fits his skills.

But they got something else. According to multiple team sources, this was part of the reason to pull the trigger: They got rid of Russell.

The Warriors, as much as anything with this move, gave up on Russell. Seven months after they contorted the entire franchise into a pretzel to get him, five months after he showed up to camp, the Warriors abandoned The Russell Project. They were so eager to get rid of him that they are embracing a player considered to be on one of the worst contracts in the league.

Take that as an indictment on Russell, if you want. It doesn’t seem like he did much to instill confidence. He didn’t play defense and disappeared when off the ball. He didn’t instill confidence in the leaders of the franchise that he would figure it out. But it should also be seen as a failure by the Warriors.

They championed him. They said they wanted him as part of their core. And before they even got to see him with their core, they walked away. Which means, at minimum, they completely miscalculated Russell’s fit. It’s early, and you never know how these things turn out. But the Russell experiment must have gone so poorly that the Warriors look like they might have been the ones to blink first in a negotiation with Minnesota.

When’s the last time in the Bob Myers era it felt like the Warriors got swindled in a trade?

There is a sense of relief for some in the organization that the experiment with Russell is over. Some were pining for the Warriors to rip off the Band-Aid and trade him. The experiment didn’t work. But trading him is waving a white flag and calls into question why they even did all of this in the first place.

When the Warriors acquired Russell, behind the scenes they spoke of him as a foundational piece and refuted talk that he was just a trade asset. But most understood him to be a piece they could use to get the real foundational piece. And now he’s with the Timberwolves, who have been pining to get him since July, when they tried to woo him.

Maybe they learned Russell — plus the top-5 pick the Warriors likely will earn this season — wasn’t enough to land them the star they needed to carry them into the future. Now, if a star becomes available next offseason and the Warriors are interested, they seem less equipped to go get that star. It’s all projection, and who knows what the market will be in June. But Russell seems like a more desirable commodity on the market if another team is looking for a young star as compensation.

Without question, there is a lot we don’t know. The Warriors execs are in the rooms, on the phones and have the inside information. So maybe they have reason to believe Wiggins plus their own 2020 pick and the Wolves’ 2021 pick is a better package for this hypothetical scenario in June and July. But Wiggins’ reputation suggests otherwise.

Maybe they believe Wiggins is the best player they can get to add to their championship core. They have clearly concluded Russell wasn’t going to fill that role. Either way, this wasn’t the end anyone expected would justify the means initiated in July.

Critics said immediately Russell wouldn’t fit. The Warriors walked away before that was ever really clear. Klay Thompson still hasn’t returned from injury. Curry broke his hand four games in. Russell ended up filling the role as the primary scorer on the worst team in the league. So they never got to experience what he would be like with Curry, Thompson and Green. While 33 games on a depleted roster is too small a sample size to disprove that analysis, the Warriors clearly saw enough to decide it was time to move on.

The Warriors needed Russell to transition to an off-the-ball player or at least incorporate that skill into his game so he could be effective when Curry had the ball in his hands. That was a struggle, especially without a lot of weapons around him. Teaching him “the Warriors way” proved to be a challenge. He admitted as much.

“I mean when you’re four, five years in the league, you know what you do,” Russell said in January for a now-shelved Dynasty Interrupted piece. “I never ran off screens and been that guy, so it’s something new. It’s a challenge that I’m willing to accept. I just know what I do — I know what I’m great at versus what I’m alright at. Why not be me? It’s a challenge you have to work with.

“I think being consistent coming off screens,” Russell added, regarding the ways in which he needs to improve off the ball, “and get in better shape to do that. Because … my game, you don’t have to be in the best shape to kind of control the game. So in the summer, I gotta get in better shape because I know that’s going to be something I’ma have to do. So just work on doing that.”

Also an issue, with regards to Russell: He wasn’t available enough. Russell played 33 of the Warriors’ 52 games. He’s 23 years old and they were banking on him getting them through this season. Green, coming off five consecutive Finals runs, has played 39 games.

The relationship between Russell and the Warriors just slowly became more and more frustrating. There were no known signs of turmoil and friction. But there was murmuring after Alec Burks and Glenn Robinson III were traded on Wednesday night and Russell wasn’t.

It was probably mutual. Russell’s entire Warriors experience was under the cloud of him being traded again. He didn’t know when or where. He chose the Warriors and their max-contract offer and it was unclear if he was just a pawn in their game of chess. He recently talked about just wanting to be able to unpack his bags and get settled.

Everything changed when Curry broke his left hand back in October. After that, the Warriors were essentially asking Russell to be a substitute Curry and guide the franchise through this dark period — which is challenging the 17-win Warriors of 2000-01 for the worst season in franchise history. But they wanted Russell to do so while learning how to change his game and with the understanding he might not even be around by the February trade deadline. Which he wasn’t.

Perhaps it is wise for them to know when to move on. Many franchises have been doomed by doubling down instead of cutting their losses. And a strong case could be made that the 2021 pick they got from Minnesota is better than what they could’ve gotten now or later. So caving on their reported demands for this year’s unprotected Timberwolves pick wasn’t a complete loss if they get a high pick in a better draft. And maybe the Warriors will be right to like Wiggins — a 24-year-old, 6-foot-7, 194-pound athlete with some bankable skills — as a better project for their team and their needs.

But it all means they were wrong about Russell. And that means it’s fair to question if they are right about this.
 

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Trade Analysis: The Athletic experts examine Warriors-Timberwolves swap of D’Angelo Russell for Andrew Wiggins

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By Seth Partnow, Sam Vecenie and Danny Leroux 2h ago
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Editor’s Note: Below is a conversation between three of The Athletic’s NBA analysts with different specialties. Seth Partnow (analytics), Sam Vecenie (NBA draft/scouting) and Danny Leroux (CBA/Salary cap) discuss and break down Thursday’s deadline deal between the Warriors and Timberwolves

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The Trade
The Golden State Warriors trade D’Angelo Russell, Jacob Evans and Omari Spellman to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Andrew Wiggins, MIN’s 2021 first round pick (protected top-3 in 2021 and unprotected in 2022), and MIN’s 2021 second round pick

First Impressions
Leroux: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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(one for every million remaining on Wiggins’ contract)

Vecenie: I’m not surprised that Minnesota is trading for Russell. We’ve known that was a possibility for a while. I’m not even surprised that Wiggins is involved in such a deal. However, I am surprised that this deal is happening now versus in five months. Doesn’t it make more sense, given that there is only one first rounder involved for Golden State, to wait until the offseason and see what other offers are available when you know how the lottery has shaken out? Would it have been possible to pair Russell and their lottery pick for a better offer than this? Isn’t this deal likely on the table in six months anyway, given Minnesota’s incessant chase of Russell? I would have wanted to find out, personally.

Having said that, I think it’s a much more reasonable deal for the Warriors than most, in large part because I believe more in Wiggins than many and I think this pick has a shot to be really valuable. And the Gersson Rosas seemingly avoided a Karl-Anthony Towns mutiny by acquiring Russell, so that’s nice.

Partnow: I suggested DeMar DeRozan for Wiggins in our Timberwolves breakdown, and this is kind of the next best thing. I don’t see either player as particularly impactful so this deal might end up with one of the highest heat-to-light ratios of any swap in recent memory. That said, have to like the upside for the Warriors if only because of the top 10 pick equity they acquired.

Cap Implications
Leroux: Russell and Wiggins have strikingly similar contracts for players given their max signed almost two years apart: after this year, Russell makes $90 million over three seasons while Wiggins gets $94.7 million over that same time period. As such, the larger financial difference comes from the other players included. The Warriors picked up 2020-21 rookie scale options for both Evans and Spellman so they make a combined $3.8 million this year and $4 million next season with fourth year options that the Timberwolves will decide on before Halloween.

The craziest part of this trade is how it affects the Warriors’ luxury tax obligations. After this deal and their previous salary dump of Glenn Robinson III and Alec Burks, I have them $3.1 million below the tax threshold but they have an astonishing NINE players on roster. As such, the front office has to try to figure out a way to fulfill the league requirements for roster size while spending less than that sum but Bob Myers should be able to make that happen.

On the floor impact
Partnow: The first thing that needs to be said is that the reputations of the main pieces of this deal far surpass their career achievements. Yes, Russell was selected as an injury replacement for the All-Star game last year, which was more a testament to the stickiness of pre-draft reputations than actual production.

Neither player has ever had a season in the top 100 in single year RAPM, and only Wiggins (in 2016-17) has a season with meaningfully positive (greater than +1.0/possessions) estimated impacts. Aside from Russell’s rather fluky finish (86th) last year, neither player has ever finished higher than 347th in single season DRAPM. As both are poor to very poor defensively, they derive what value they have on the offensive end. And the story there has not been pretty:

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Thus far this season, Russell is approaching league average efficiency, but every other season both players have been well below.

Draft Implications
Vecenie: The Warriors will receive a Minnesota 2021 first round pick that has very light protections, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN. The pick is top-three protected in 2021, and then unprotected in 2022 if it gets that far.

You might be asking yourselves: Why would Golden State want Minnesota’s 2021 pick? Shouldn’t they be better next season when Russell is paired with Towns? Golden State, according to sources, actually prioritized a 2021 pick in their negotiations with Minnesota as opposed to Minnesota’s 2020 pick. I see three reasons why that would be the case.

First, the Warriors are already slated to have a lottery pick incoming in 2020. Does it make sense for a team that will be ostensibly competing for a title next year to develop two high-end rookies at the same time? I’m not sure it does.

Second, the 2021 draft looks much, much better than the 2020 iteration. The 2020 draft, particularly throughout the lottery, looks to be the weakest since the 2013 draft, and maybe the second-weakest overall in the one-and-done era. On the other hand, the 2021 draft looks quite good. Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, and Jalen Green would all pretty clearly be No. 1 overall picks in the 2020 NBA Draft. The freshman class entering the college or overseas ranks next season is considerably stronger in terms of depth, meaning there is a greater chance that more good players will emerge over the next 18 months. In general, executives feel much better about 2021 than 2020, which is why you’ve seen over the course of the deadline that more teams are willing to part with this season’s draft picks.

Finally, this is a bet on the Timberwolves not turning it around and becoming a playoff team next year. And honestly, I think it’s a reasonable bet just given how far they have to go to build around Russell and Towns, and how deep the West is. This is something of a re-boot, given that I think the only even average defensive players on the roster at Josh Okogie and Jarrett Culver. If they mean to keep Malik Beasley and Juancho Hernangomez, they don’t have cap space this summer, and have very few other positive assets to turn around and trade elsewhere unless they want to move their 2020 lottery pick, too. Pretty easily, I’d feel comfortable slotting both Los Angeles teams, Denver, Golden State, Utah, Dallas, Houston, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Portland and New Orleans ahead of them in the pecking order next year. That’s 11 teams they have to jump, and that doesn’t include Phoenix, Sacramento and San Antonio, who have talent. The West is loaded, and Minnesota has quite a climb ahead of it.

The Wolves also move their 2021 second rounder to the Warriors. If the Dubs’ bet on that lottery pick being valuable is right, the second round pick also could have value, too, as a top-10 pick in that round.

Discussion
Partnow: Before we get into the cap and asset machinations of this, we should note that Wiggins fits better with Steph Curry and Klay Thompson than Russell would have. That better fit doesn’t change the fact that he’s never had a full season of above average NBA play. He has been below league average efficiency every year of his career, and despite his supposed defensive tools, has been a significant negative on that end of the floor every season of his career as well.

I am not particularly enamored of Russell either, but the fact that the Wolves included a lightly protected first to move Wiggins and the gut reaction is “that’s all?” says volumes of the enormity of the reclamation project in front of the Dubs.

Vecenie: This is a massive gamble from the Warriors, if only because of what it will do to Wiggins value one way or another. If Wiggins succeeds next to Curry, Klay and Dray, it will legitimately make it seem like he’s been salvaged, and thus has value to be forwarded on in another potential deal. Or, maybe it’ll mean he’s just good, and a smart addition to the Warriors.

But if it fails, and Wiggins doesn’t take the step that scouts around the league think he has in him as a project worth investing in, it’s going to be a disaster for the Warriors and crater any value he has left. Executives around the league will say, “If he can’t work with the Warriors surrounded by that talent, he can’t work with anyone.”

Ultimately the question is: Do we think Golden State can develop him and make this work?

Leroux: While Wiggins is a superior conceptual fit with the Warriors’ core, the difference between the theory of him and the reality is incredibly important. In the 2017-18 season, Wiggins took 15.7 shots per game with 23.4 usage on a playoff team that also had Karl-Anthony Towns and Jimmy Butler. Oh, and he had a 50.5 True Shooting percentage, the ninth-worst of the 89 players with that volume. (Amazingly, Russell was 10th-worst!) It is a similar story on defense where the Canadian profiles as a capable defender but the possession-by-possession impact has only been positive for small stretches in five and a half seasons. Playing with Curry, Thompson, Green and the Warriors will put Wiggins in the best possible situation to succeed but it remains unclear whether he will make the adjustments in game and mentality necessary to fully thrive. Also, if it does not work out, the Warriors still owe him another $94.7 million after this season.

Vecenie: So, let me be clear. I share a lot of the concerns you guys do here. I’m not excited about this deal for the Dubs. But I’ll at least make the case for Wiggins having taken a bit of a leap this year.

First and foremost, he’s clearly improved as a passer. His 18.9 assist rate this year is nearly double that of his career average, and he’s looked much more comfortable reading the way defenders are playing him. Part of Wiggins old problem used to be that he couldn’t quite see the floor in the way he needed to, and thus threw up a lot of ugly contested shots. Now that he sees the floor better, and will move toward playing in a much more ball-movement-friendly scheme, I wonder if he can start to limit the hideous shots he takes at times.

Partnow: I’ll interject here to say that at least some of Wiggins increased playmaking load was more by necessity with the injuries and inexperience the Wolves have had in the backcourt. He has shown some competence in making decent reads in those scenarios, but a high level initiator he’s not, and his overall offensive game is not to the point where he should be on ball all that often for a team with Curry, Green and so on.

Vecenie: Yeah, no doubt. I’m not going to make a case that he is a primary playmaker, but rather someone who can make a read, now, and get himself out of forcing up bad shots as a reaction.

Second, while the efficiency hasn’t exactly spiked, it’s been better this season, and his shot distribution as a whole looks much more like something you’d see from a Golden State. He’s taken about 77 percent of his shots either at the rim or from behind the 3-point line, with nearly half of his 3-point attempts being of the pull-up variety. As a shooter off the catch, his numbers actually aren’t that bad. He’s hitting at a 54.9 effective field goal percentage on those shots overall this season, and has made 36 percent of such 3s. That number actually tracks from the last two seasons, where he’s hit catch-and-shoot shots at a 51.9 and 54.3 mark, respectively.

Partnow: Even that 54.9 mark on catch-and-shoots is pretty mediocre. For his career, he’s been an inefficient jump shooter:

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(Russell is a better shooter unsurprisingly, but both have taken more than twice as many pullups as catch-and-shoots).
 

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Vecenie: I’m not really of the opinion that his career numbers are totally reflective of his current shooting level. This year, he’s in the 64th percentile according to Synergy on catch-and-shoot shots. So I’d say we’re basically splitting hairs around “average.” However, it’s worth noting that only 27 percent of his 3s this year have come with at least six feet of separation from his defender. That is under 10 percent of his total shots, which is markedly low.

And on defense, I do think Wiggins has been much better. I know that the Wolves’ overall defense hasn’t been particularly good, but I think Towns has more to do with that than Wiggins. The Wolves have played about 712 minutes with Towns on the floor with Wiggins, and about 743 minutes with Wiggins on the floor and Towns off. In Wiggins’ minutes with Towns, the Wolves have a disaster-level 115.2 defensive rating. In the minutes Wiggins plays without Towns, though, they have a 107.4 defensive rating. Basically, in Minnesota’s non-Towns minutes, they’ve fielded a top-10 defense that Wiggins is a part of. He’s not the player on that end that some thought he’d be coming out of Kansas due to his length and athleticism, but I don’t really think he’s a true negative anymore, either.

Basically, I just wonder how much of Wiggins’ issues are that he’s been asked to do far more than he should be asked to do. If you limit his role to being an advantage scorer, transition runner, catch-and-shoot weapon who can attack close-outs, and cutter toward the basket to finish, I wonder if you can actually derive genuine, positive value out of him. Put more simply: Stephen Curry and Draymond Green are the two best passers he’s ever played with. If he’s willing to buy into playing within a winning structure, there is some real upside here to using him in a different role than “primary playmaker.” Is that worth $95 million? No, unless he morphs into one of the league’s best defenders, something I’m much more skeptical about even in spite of the fact that he’s been better on that end this year. But it might turn him into more of a winning basketball player than we’ve seen thus far.

Partnow: That’s a good point, Wiggins is in line to get something like the Harrison Barnes shot mix, so perhaps he transitions to a more medium usage, medium efficiency guy. Which is fine, but for a max contract? In this (or any other) economy?

Vecenie: It’s not, but is it a better skill mix for the Warriors once Curry and Klay get back than what Russell would have provided? I think there’s a reasonable case the answer is yes, and that Russell’s value may have depreciated in that situation.

Honestly, I’m kind of just playing devil’s advocate to be fair to Wiggins here and to try to understand what the Warriors were thinking. I believe what I’m saying, but I’m not whole-heartedly behind this move. I think there would have been better options on the table than Wiggins and a pick if the Warriors would have waited until this summer.

Partnow: It’s funny you should put it that way, because while I’ve been largely killing Wiggins here, I’m definitely weighing his contract pretty heavily when evaluating his likely on court contribution. In this environment, he could become a perfectly serviceable rotation piece, albeit a massively overpaid one. Taking that into account, I actually kind of like the overall move for Golden State insofar as they are way short on the Wolves, so let’s look at their side of the deal for a second.

Leroux: From the Wolves’ perspective, this is an interesting bet on and off the court. Russell and Towns have a well-known friendship so acquiring him certainly makes their star happy but the pairing will likely do more for Russell than Towns. Since Russell lacks the athleticism to beat his man regularly one-on-one, he often relies on screens or pulling jumpers over defenders when he cannot create separation. Playing with Towns will open things up because opponents are unwilling to switch their smalls on Towns, necessitating something closer to a hedge-and-recover approach when possible. This should lead to cleaner looks for Russell and sometimes passing lanes to Towns or more penetration that produces openings for teammates. Russell’s hype and undeserved All-Star selection last year do not accurately reflect his quality level relative to his peers at point guard but he should help their offense.

Partnow: Given the draft compensation heading to the Warriors, this is a far bigger gamble for Minnesota than for Golden State. Wiggins could still be bad, but he’d then just be bad salary on a team with Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. If Russell doesn’t help lift the Wolves considerably, he could be almost equally bad salary alongside just Karl-Anthony Towns while the fifth pick in the draft fights Wiggins for playing time in the Bay.

Vecenie: That’s absolutely right, Seth. This is an incredible risk from the Timberwolves perspective.

Partnow: Between this move and the Covington deal, let’s talk about the theory of this Minnesota team. Spread pick-and-roll with Russell and Towns surrounded by shooters. They added Malik Beasley and Juancho Hernangomez to be those shooters yesterday. That has the bones of something that makes sense.

Vecenie: On offense.

Partnow: Yeah, defense is a thing that exists. But to go back to the offense for a second, I’m not certain how well-situated Russell is to service shooters in that way, especially if Towns is going to continue to be as much of a pick-and-pop as a dive threat. Russell’s relative lack of athleticism really shows up in his inability to get to the rim and/or the foul line. He’s never had a season where he’s taken even a fifth of his shots in the restricted area, and even in this, his most efficient scoring season to date, he’s at a career low with 6.8 percent of his attempts coming from close in. I have a great deal of skepticism whether he will be able to draw sufficient defensive attention to get the open looks Beasley and especially Hernangomez need to operate effectively.

To put it another way, it sure seems like the best way to defend the Wolves next year will be to simply let D’Angelo cook and then run up the score on the other end.

Leroux: While we can leave defense to the side (kind of like these Wolves will), should we talk at all about how this affects Jarrett Culver’s role? Rosas traded up to the sixth pick and distinctly did not take a true point guard, though Culver has looked more comfortable in a more ball-dominant role after the first part of the season. Trading Wiggins opens up playing time on the wing for Culver, Beasley et al but adding Russell likely shifts the priorities for those spots to floor spacing and defense.

Vecenie: I actually like it for Culver. I don’t really see him as a ball-in-hand playmaker long-term. He’s a good passer, but I want him more as a Khris Middleton-like (probably not nearly as efficient) medium usage scorer who makes good decisions, defends, and knocks down shots.

The problem is, and this was the entirety of just how good Culver’s translation to the NBA would be, in my opinion, Culver’s jump shot looks like a mess right now. He has good touch, and did an awful lot of work on it in college to make himself a useful pull-up threat. But this is going to be a situation where he needs to completely revamp his jumper in the summer and get it back to a place where he’s confident with it — something that he lost, seemingly, very early in the season.

Partnow: Without substantial improvements to that jumper, he’s not a great fit for an offball role in this new construction they appear to be implementing. Which is a roundabout way of getting back to my main issue with this is I just don’t think Russell is good enough to build around in a way that you can choose to not care about how prospects like Culver fit in.

Vecenie: If we’re assuming that Russell-Towns is the core you want to build around, and they want to pay Beasley this summer, I think Culver is actually kind of the perfect player you want at the 3. He can handle the ball a bit, pass a bit, and is happy to take on tough defensive assignments. The jumper needs to get there, or else he’s just not going to be valuable at all. But they need his type of theoretically multi-dimensional game to play in between Towns and Russell.

Partnow: Jarrett Culver as the Jon Snow meme of the Wolves’ defense?

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Vecenie: Josh Okogie is probably the Jon Snow with how he runs around with full effort all the time, with Culver being the Arya Stark, quiet but deadly defender of the wall who saves us all by killing. (Do we need to do spoiler alerts for Game of Thrones, still?)

Partnow: Spoiler alert the Wolves’ defense might be as bad next year as the last season of GoT.

Leroux: With less fan service too.

Vecenie: Yeah, to say the Wolves have work to do on defense still is an understatement, and they’re starting far behind the eight-ball with their core being Towns and Russell, and having moved Robert Covington yesterday.

Partnow: Not to mention Gorgui Dieng in a separate deal today! If they go into next season with Towns and Naz Reid at center, that’s very likely the worst 48 minutes of interior defense around.

Leroux: Something we know for sure is that a ton of players in this trade will be in dramatically different situations moving forward, most of them carrying high stakes. Inevitably it also turns the 2020-21 season into a referendum on the deal but that honestly seems somewhat fair given the draft pick gambit.

Overall Evaluation
Vecenie: One of the riskiest trades we’ve seen across the NBA in a long time on both sides because of the money involved, the stakes for Golden State as a title contender, and the Timberwolves’ bet on Russell pulling them out of the lottery. Minnesota is basically starting fresh this week under Rosas, and they’re doing it a year into Towns’ max contract. On the plus side, they likely made an increasingly unhappy Towns happy by acquiring his friend. But if this pairing fails, the Wolves will find themselves running out of time with Towns as their centerpiece. As a table-setting move to get the guys you believe will be your stars of the future, I understand it. But this deal will be defined for Minnesota by how quickly and creatively Rosas can make the next set of moves that potentially push them into contention.

For Golden State, I still think I probably would have waited to pull the trigger here and found a different way to get out of the luxury tax. But I don’t hate this deal. Wiggins has skills that could translate into an interesting role with their core. Getting out of the repeater tax helps their future flexibility. Also, that 2021 Minnesota pick is probably going to be very valuable, and betting against this Wolves core over the next 18 months seems like a sound investment to me.

Leroux: My favorite part of this trade is that in many respects it is a bet by the Warriors against the player they traded Andre Iguodala and a first to acquire seven months ago. If the Wolves are still well out of the playoff picture next season, Golden State gets a lottery pick in a stronger 2021 draft or a totally unprotected one in 2022, which likely means Minnesota spent the prior year in massive turmoil. While I feel Wiggins is a dramatically inferior player to Russell, there is a sound argument that the pick is by far the most important piece of this deal for the long-term success of either team. Also, I am pretty sure this trade broke my brain.

Partnow: I’ll largely echo those sentiments Danny, but want to also acknowledge the possibility that Wiggins on the Warriors is a more impactful player than Russell on the Wolves. Russell is going to put up numbers, but the nutritional value of those calories is a very open question. With so many questions about both players, I simply have to default to the upside of that lightly protected first round pick and view the deal pretty positively from Golden State’s side.
 

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I been wanting Wiggins on the squad. Like Steve Kerr just said on the radio...real NBA wings are the hardest thing to acquire in the NBA. Any wings that can give you 20 ppg are probably getting the max if they hit the open market.
 

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I been wanting Wiggins on the squad. Like Steve Kerr just said on the radio...real NBA wings are the hardest thing to acquire in the NBA. Any wings that can give you 20 ppg are probably getting the max if they hit the open market.
Exactly.. Wigs is a more athletic Barnes.. he’s a career 44%fg, he just has to improve his 3pt percentage but he’s currently 33% career which is Below average
 
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