A massive review of science literature has found no risks to humans or environment by GMOs

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So they didn't do any actual research, they just looked at the "Conclusion" part of other research papers and came up with their own conclusion. I would like to review the list of people who funded the research. :ohhh:

Also, why isn't this paper free? The longest ever running GMO research paper is freely available to the public.





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Longest-Running GMO Safety Study Finds Tumors in Rats

HERE'S 4.2 MILLION DOLLARS: SHUT IT DOWN!!!! :lolbron:
http://rt.com/news/monsanto-rats-tumor-france-531/
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/gmo-corn-rat-tumor

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But the sample size—ten males and ten females per group—is simply too small to draw any conclusions, Hansen says. Moreover, he adds, the researchers used a strain of rat that is known to be highly prone to developing mammary tumors. That factor, plus the small sample size, means that the prevalence of mammary tumors found among the treated female rats could be happenstance, he said.

"I don't want to trash" the study, said one researcher, "but I just don't see enough there that's very persuasive to me at this point."
However, Hansen told me, while all of the individual comparisons—say, kidney dysfunction or mammary tumors between 10 females eating a certain level of GMO feed and 10 females eating non-GMO feed—are "statistically insignificant" because of sample size, taken as a whole, the results paint a troubling picture. Overall, the study made 54 comparisons between treated rats and control rats, and in all but four of them—two involving females, two involving males—the treated rats showed worse outcomes. "That's suggestive that there's something going on and there that should be further research," he said.

I asked Hansen why serious researchers wouldn't have used enough rats in each group to get more robust results. He said that multi-year rat studies, especially ones involving so many different comparison sets, are "extremely expensive," and that the researchers likely did the best they could given their resources.

Another scientist not aligned with industry interests, Ted Schettler, science director of the Science and Environmental Health Network (SEHN), echoed Hansen's concerns about sample size. And he added another: The authors didn't include data about the total food and water intake of the rats in the various groups. The amount of food and water animals consume "can affect both tumor development and kidney function," he said. "And [it] very well may affect mortality."

In a Wednesday conference call with reporters, I raised Schettler's concern with study author Gilles-Eric Séralini, a professor at University of Caen in France. Séralini replied that he and his collaborators couldn't get all the data into their paper because it's "the longest and most detailed [GMO feeding study] that has ever been done so we couldn't put [all the data] in one paper." He said that all the groups had roughly equal feeding and drinking habits, with the exception of the the group that got the highest dose of Roundup, which drank less water than the others. He added that the feeding data, along with comparisons showing more GMO effects, would be published in future papers now in progress.

Schettler added the way the paper presents some of its data is "unusual" and was hard for him to decipher. Overall, he said, he's "intrigued" by the results, but isn't convinced. "I don't want to trash" the study, he said, "but I just don't see enough there that's very persuasive to me at this point." He added: "It does suggest to me that we need longer term feeding studies with GM foodstuff, in a standardized way with the right number of animals in each group so we can pick up the changes and be confident that they exist." He stressed that using enough rats to show robust, statistically significant results would be very expensive.


But that said, I'm all for more long-term studies.
 

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whether they are healthy or not is less important than the fact that they are patented and so represent an attempt at monopolization of all agriculture across the globe while wiping out biodiversity.
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It's a crime against nature to force farmers to grow plants that are sterile so they have to buy seeds from the source every year.

They also wipe out local indigenous crops in order to replace them with GMOs most times. What about the multiple reports of animals becoming sterile from eating these crops.

The effects will always manifest long term. We can't just change the nature of our food and expect no side effects. Food has been genetically modified for hundreds of years except back then it was thru selective breeding not splicing pesticides into the DNA of a crop or otherwise.
 

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The problem with this GMO debate is that neither side is willing to admit that GMOs are encapsulated within a spectrum, encompassing both good and bad. There are clear distinctions to be made in my opinion.

That being said, I don't see what the problem is in labeling foods as such.
 

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Longest-Running GMO Safety Study Finds Tumors in Rats

So what happened? Well, in some groups, the rats got more cancer than controls. But not always. In fact, the authors had to cherry-pick their own data to support their conclusions.

it takes a 2 second google search to see that study is flawed.

and why aren't americans who eat GM corn getting cancer like that then? cancer rates have remained flat.
 

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GMO's problem is the monopoly that's it creates on some ressources.
That said, even if that was cleared I wouldn't want any in my plate.

EDIT : Another problem is contamination. A GMO field can contaminate a "natural" field without any possible backtracking.
 

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it takes a 2 second google search to see that study is flawed.

and why aren't americans who eat GM corn getting cancer like that then? cancer rates have remained flat.



some rates have remained flat while others have a slight rise most specifically in women, while mortality rates have been on the decline across the board
 

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listen to what @Morph is saying because that's true.

Also, the long term affects aren't even fully determined or studied......................SO the simply fact that post like this, articles, and fake studies like this are even created and funded!! is suspicious. You're a fool to not see through that.
 
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listen to what @Morph is saying because that's true.

Also, the long term affects aren't even fully determined or studied......................SO the simply fact that post like this, articles, and fake studies like this are even created and funded!! is suspicious. You're a fool to not see through that.

all 1800 of those studies are fake, huh?

you're eating gmos and you don't even realize it.
 

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gmo's are the reason i don't eat cheap food. they're trying to kill poor ppl by feeding us this bullsh1t.

lie to us by getting these fake scientists to give ppl a false sense of security.

this is all the food that ends up in save-a-lot. food that tastes like plastic treated with radiation to make them have longer shelf life. i tell my bytch never to step foot in those places... :ufdup:
 

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it's wierd that we always wait for things to become common undenialble knowledge or for the mainstream to back it 100% before we accept it. Then it becomes ' people Once thought blah blaaa... but now science has proven .....'

science and common sense always shows the shyt ahead of time, but larger science blocks it.
 
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1. So I suppose we should also ban CPUs, cellphones, and other electronic devices that emit radiation since we don't have "enough" proof that they're safe. After all, cellphones haven't been around that long. Who knows what the long-term effects are, right? Please get rid of yours first. :russ:

2. The thing is, NO amount of precautions or research would be good enough for you because you already decided you don't like GM foods. There already have been plenty of studies indicating that these foods are safe (look at the first post in this thread) but regardless you'll ignore them since you've already decided otherwise. Since obviously anything new/modern is bad and anything old is good.

3. No, the economic benefits are beside the point of this thread - we're talking about safety. That's like saying computers are bad because a computer company overcharges people for software. There are potential huge benefits (including increasing the food supply in some struggling areas), that's reason enough for us to explore the technology.

we can definitely embrace the advances in technology, but it's our responsibility to have certain safeguards in place to protect people. for example, im sure we could create something that would decrease or eliminate the absorption of EM radiation into the body when using electronic devices or in the presence of electronic devices. it could be placed directly on the devices or possibly even on the human body itself.

and imo GMOs are not that great of a benefit. why do we need to genetically modify crops? we can do just as much to improve the world's food supply by supplanting natural crops in different climates, and even using the controlled environment of a greenhouse if necessary to do it. there are a hundred other ways to grow different crops in different climates that are guaranteed safe and productive. but the way we're doing it now, we're not sure if it's safe, AND it's not even being productive for the majority of people. in fact its harming people through starvation, and even driving a bunch of farmers to mass suicide.

so im not saying we should give up on technology, but we have to be smart with how we do it. we can acheive the same outcome with way less risk.

cause if you're gonna do it, take your time, and do it right.
 
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