A Mass Shooting Happened Yesterday But You Didn’t Hear Anything About It

[Serious]

Ok name me all the leaders in the black community who has publicly denounced the actions of thugs. I don't believe you. And I'll make it clear what I believe. I believe most black people either take pride in the thugs of their community, or they sympathize with them because they think they're just victims of the system (read: their full of "hopelessness").

Most? That's a hell of a quantum leap...

@Insensitive

 

[Serious]

Inexcusable. You've got poor people all over the world in asia and india and you don't see their poor trying to kill each other and have babies left and right.

compare poor communities in America, to countries with tight control gun brehs...

Because wealthier black communities have forsaken black degenerate culture. It's pretty simple.

Yeah because every other wealthy ethnicity is saturated with upstanding individuals.
http://www.salon.com/2001/05/31/twins_2/

You lack the reading comprehension skills to understand your own post. By you saying "When you create situations where there are generations of poverty this breeds a sense of hopelessness", you are excusing the actions of the negro. You're implying that the white man made the negro who he is today.

Let's not play dumb here, there's a lot of societal factors at work here. Some of it is institutionalized racism, some of is the lack of opportunity / random chance, but the main premise your argument is lacking is the context of generational wealth. The accumulation of property has lot to do with the instability facing the black community.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/02/27/what-explains-the-racial-wealth-gap/

Ok name me all the leaders in the black community who has publicly denounced the actions of thugs. I don't believe you. And I'll make it clear what I believe. I believe most black people either take pride in the thugs of their community, or they sympathize with them because they think they're just victims of the system (read: their full of "hopelessness").

Several people have, it just get swept under the rug, because it isn't pushed as cool / profitable by the media / large corporations. In the same light as reading vs. watching tv. If I'm company A, trying to sell as many B's, to reach the largest audience possible, do I want people to spend their leisure time reading books; educating themselves on how their being oversold or do I bombard their mind with imagines of my product ( B)

All black people shouldn't be demonized as criminals, but all black people should be demonized because if a black person isn't a criminal himself, he refuses to denounce the actions of these thugs and insists on shifting the blame on to whitey or the legacy of slavery.

I don't any one who actively promotes the being a thug is cool agenda...

The downfall of the negro race are people like you who refuse to say that the afro american negro needs to take responsibility for his actions.

Sure and I agree, but I never denounce other societal and external factors at play.

 

[bigDeeOT]

compare poor communities in America, to countries with tight control gun brehs....

Why don't poor people in india and china act like baffoons?

Yeah because every other wealthy ethnicity is saturated with upstanding individuals.

If you have a point to make speak directly. Don't speak in riddles.


Ok I don't know why but the formatting below is screwed up.

Let's not play dumb here, there's a lot of societal factors at work here. Some of it is institutionalized racism, some of is the lack of opportunity / random chance, but the main premise your argument is lacking is the context of generational wealth. The accumulation of property has lot to do with the instability facing the black community.
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I agree that all those factors are legitimate factors. But the main factor is black degenerate culture. How do I know this? Because there is no progress. Simple as that. In fact there is progress in the negative direction. I don't care what you say about poverty this poverty that. If blacks wanted to get out of it by legitimate means, there would be progress. But here isn't.

Several people have, it just get swept under the rug, because it isn't pushed as cool / profitable by the media / large corporations. .

When I ask what black leaders have denounced degenerate black culture, I mean someone that the black community looks up to. In this day and age, if a leader in the black community wants to have a voice and speak out, NOTHING will stop him except the black community themselves disowning that person. Bill cosby, Thomas Sowell, and Larry Elder have spoke, but they're considered uncle toms or sell outs. With the advent of social media anyone can say anything. So show me what black leader has spoke out? Absolutely not a single one. Because as soon as they do, they're no longer considered a leader in the community.

I don't any one who actively promotes the being a thug is cool agenda....

I like how you were careful to put in the word "actively", as if that means anything. Of course no one goes out and directly says "hey kids, grow up to be thugs."
But when you have a minority of blacks engaging in thug behavior on the streets, and NO ONE denounces those actions, then by default you condone it by your acquiescence. And to say its acquiescence is being nice. When you have blacks creating music and reality tv shows that embrace thug culture, its clear that everyone in the black community condones it. And the ones that don't necessarily condone it will blame their behavior on whitey.

Sure and I agree, but I never denounce other societal and external factors at play.

I don't denounce other factors at play either. But what I am saying is that its effectively a moot point. Even if you could show that racism exists and the legacy of slavery is effecting blacks, what does any of that matter when you don't see black people doing anything to better themselves? So you live in a racist society, now what are you going to do about it? Blacks want to use racism as the end all be all to justify their laziness and lack of accountability.

 

[Goat poster]

Thought this was gonna be about Kim Jong Un wiping out 80 people in his country for watching TV shows from South Korea and America.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Thought this was gonna be about Kim Jong Un wiping out 80 people in his country for watching TV shows from South Korea and America.

I heard about that. Sick shyt.

 

[Insensitive]

Most? That's a hell of a quantum leap...

@Insensitive

This dude is too far gone.
@biggDeeOT would be getting his
head kicked in,in the slums of eastern europe
or india and would be completely unable
to link this sort of behavior to their economic conditions
or their status in society.

I can just picture him screaming "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps !!!"

All black people shouldn't be demonized as criminals, but all black people should be demonized because if a black person isn't a criminal himself, he refuses to denounce the actions of these thugs and insists on shifting the blame on to whitey or the legacy of slavery.

Just completely illogical dribble.
He basically said "All black people should be demonized because of my
belief that they're indifferent to criminality".

 

[bigDeeOT]

This dude is too far gone.
@biggDeeOT would be getting his
head kicked in,in the slums of easter europe
or india and would be completely unable
to link this sort of behavior to their economic conditions
or their status in society.

I can just picture him screaming "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps !!!"


Just completely illogical dribble.
He basically said "All black people should be demonized because of my
belief that they're indifferent to criminality".

People in india and eastern europe dont have the crime rates black have in america.

 

[Insensitive]

People in india and eastern europe dont have the crime rates black have in america.

I think your point overall is moot.
America has significantly higher crime rates than
most other developed countries on the planet.
With that said since this is a thread about
a potential black on black murder I'll say this :

Murder Rates are much higher in Russia.
(eastern europe for slow brahs)
64% higher in fact

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Russia/United-States/Crime
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/...early-all-other-developed-countries-fbi-data/

You'd probably a get jumped by some (white) soccer hooligans
and think to yourself "But...but....HIP HOP!! And..and Al Sharpton !!!"

 

[Serious]

I agree that all those factors are legitimate factors. But the main factor is black degenerate culture. How do I know this? Because there is no progress. Simple as that. In fact there is progress in the negative direction. I don't care what you say about poverty this poverty that. If blacks wanted to get out of it by legitimate means, there would be progress. But here isn't.

Good point I see how you're trying to angle this. The only clear cut solution to this method would involve cutting ties too "multiculturalism".

When I ask what black leaders have denounced degenerate black culture, I mean someone that the black community looks up to. In this day and age, if a leader in the black community wants to have a voice and speak out, NOTHING will stop him except the black community themselves disowning that person. Bill cosby, Thomas Sowell, and Larry Elder have spoke, but they're considered uncle toms or sell outs. With the advent of social media anyone can say anything. So show me what black leader has spoke out? Absolutely not a single one. Because as soon as they do, they're no longer considered a leader in the community.

TJ Holmes used address issues in the black community, without coming off like a "c00n" until his show was cancelled.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...onship-bet-future-career-plans_n_3266492.html

Like I mentioned earlier, shows that educate / inform people, usually struggle to flip a profit and get pushed under the rug, with the quickness. Whereas more appealing and rancid activities get endorsed with open arms. But this is more of a societal issue at large rather than solely just another step in the anti-intellectual forum pertaining to the black community. Most people rather watch the MTV's The Jersey Shore over PBS's Nova Science....

I like how you were careful to put in the word "actively", as if that means anything. Of course no one goes out and directly says "hey kids, grow up to be thugs."
But when you have a minority of blacks engaging in thug behavior on the streets, and NO ONE denounces those actions, then by default you condone it by your acquiescence. And to say its acquiescence is being nice. When you have blacks creating music and reality tv shows that embrace thug culture, its clear that everyone in the black community condones it. And the ones that don't necessarily condone it will blame their behavior on whitey.

I can't really speak on this. I've never had the "privilege" of living around a large enough group of homogenous minorities, whom roam the street looking for trouble.

That said while, I don't "condone" various aspects of thug culture, the transaction between music and reality tv is simply a case of supply and demand. People need that "ignorant sh*t" to vicariously live through others to fill a void in their life(w/e it may be) and TV Networks supply them with it.

I don't denounce other factors at play either. But what I am saying is that its effectively a moot point. Even if you could show that racism exists and the legacy of slavery is effecting blacks, what does any of that matter when you don't see black people doing anything to better themselves? So you live in a racist society, now what are you going to do about it? Blacks want to use racism as the end all be all to justify their laziness and lack of accountability.

Once again, my opinion is merely anecdotal. All the black people I know are working / in school and are hungry for success. None of my peers, are "lazy" bums who sit on their ass all day smoking bud, waiting for the 1st and 15.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Murder Rates are much higher in Russia.
(eastern europe for slow brahs)
64% higher in fact

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Russia/United-States/Crime
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/...early-all-other-developed-countries-fbi-data/

You'd probably a get jumped by some (white) soccer hooligans
and think to yourself "But...but....HIP HOP!! And..and Al Sharpton !!!"

Ok that's fine. So then I guess black america has the #2 violent crime rate in the world. That's nothing to applaud.

I'm sure they have their reasons for their people being violent. I'm pretty sure its because they have a violent culture. If you look all over the world at poor people, you don't see poor vietnamise or poor china people with the kind of violent crime like we have.

And as for crime rates being higher in the U.S., thats only because we send people to jail for drugs more than any other country. I'm talking about violent crime. Blacks are responsible for violent crime in this country because of their attitude.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

Inexcusable. You've got poor people all over the world in asia and india and you don't see their poor trying to kill each other and have babies left and right.

Make untrue generalizations brehs

 

[bigDeeOT]

TJ Holmes used address issues in the black comy, without coming off like a "c00n" until his show was cancelled.

I just looked him up on youtube and I cant find a single video about him denouncing black degenerate culture.

And no this is hardly has anything to do with people not being interested in educational programs. Controversial issues like this are not boring and the conclusions can be summed up in a few sentences. Why can't a leader in the black community just simply say "we need to start taking accountability for our actions?" Stop making up excuses and just admit that the black community refuses to hold a mirror to its face and criticize itself.

 

[Insensitive]

Good point I see how you're trying to angle this. The only clear cut solution to this method would involve cutting ties too "multiculturalism".





TJ Holmes used address issues in the black community, without coming off like a "c00n" until his show was cancelled.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...onship-bet-future-career-plans_n_3266492.html

Like I mentioned earlier, shows that educate / inform people, usually struggle to flip a profit and get pushed under the rug, with the quickness. Whereas more appealing and rancid activities get endorsed with open arms. But this is more of a societal issue at large rather than solely just another step in the anti-intellectual forum pertaining to the black community. Most people rather watch the MTV's The Jersey Shore over PBS's Nova Science....


I can't really speak on this. I've never had the "privilege" of living around a large enough group of homogenous minorities, whom roam the street looking for trouble.

That said while, I don't "condone" various aspects of thug culture, the transaction between music and reality tv is simply a case of supply and demand. People need that "ignorant sh*t" to vicariously live through others to fill a void in their life(w/e it may be) and TV Networks supply them with it.




Once again, my opinion is merely anecdotal. All the black people I know are working / in school and are hungry for success. None of my peers, are "lazy" bums who sit on their ass all day smoking bud, waiting for the 1st and 15.

His argument is pretty much the same
age old argument that blacks are a bunch
of malignant sloths whose only purpose
is to grow fat off of the government and murder
each other while blaming it on whitey.

It's literally like he read some white supremacist
literature and came to the conclusion that this
was ground breaking and "new".
shyt is several decades older than he is but he's
to stupid to realize it (most likely over a century older
than he is )

Ok that's fine. So then I guess black america has the #2 violent crime rate in the world. That's nothing to applaud.

I'm sure they have their reasons for their people being violent. I'm pretty sure its because they have a violent culture. If you look all over the world at poor people, you don't see poor vietnamise or poor china people with the kind of violent crime like we have.

And as for crime rates being higher in the U.S., thats only because we send people to jail for drugs more than any other country. I'm talking about violent crime. Blacks are responsible for violent crime in this country because of their attitude.

Your sweeping generalizations and assumptions will not
and cannot do shyt to fix any problems apparent in lower income black
communities, and propping up racists who have a hatred of
people of color because they believe that blacks don't care
about black crime is ignorant.
There are many community leaders you'll never hear about
that CAN and DO put in work.
You're from southern california (I know this brah, no
point in fronting) if you're really about this revolutionary
life then : http://www.streetgangs.com/resources/programs
Check out those anti-gang groups and see if you can volunteer

Also before you ask yes, more than a few of these organizations
have black leaders.

You're also lying there are many violent poor communities.
shyt some of them reside just south of the border, I don't think
people in El Salvador are to fond of MS-13 raising hell in their
cities (where again there is no Hip Hop or Al Sharpton,
or Jessie Jackson....)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_El_Salvador

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Honduras ( apparently
has the highest murder rate of any nation )

Poverty, gangs, and low apprehension and conviction rates of criminals contribute to a high crime rate. There have been reports of men carrying firearms and machetes, which has led to violence several times

Two gangs Barrio 18 and Ms-13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18th_Street_gang
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13


And crime rates aren't only higher because we send people to
jail for drugs they're significantly higher per 100,000 people
for just about everything from murder to robbery.
This is because America has it's own issues and many
of them spawned long before Hip Hop was a scapegoat
way back when 10 of thousands of people were losing their
lives to street violence, drugs were more rampant,
and urban decay had already taken hold.