Didn't tell me anything I didn't already think about marriage.
Of course the father would denounce his son when he is exposed. Why is this revelation to you?That same son is known as the "cheif hypocrite" to his father, and orchestrated the dismantling of his father's work. Malcolm was his pitbull to the media at that time.
Show me these "victims."
You're the one that doesn't know the history
I never said those incidents didn't happen.
He was treacherous because he was treacherous.
Like I said, most of y'all are nothing but personality worshippers.
If I were to run down the things that Malcolm believed, let alone practiced, your lifestyle would in no way mirror.
[quoted from the autobiography speaking on his wife Betty ]
You see, Islam is the only religion that gives both husband and wife a true understanding of what love is.
I never said Elijah denounced his son, because he didn't denounce his son. Like I said, you don't know the history.Of course the father would denounce his son when he is exposed. Why is this revelation to you?
What ever became of those paternity suits?Watch the interview Shabazz did that @TIK posted, or better yet read the autobiography yourself. In regards to the bolded; you are lazy and need to do your own research, nevertheless here it is from Malcolm's autobiography. These girls worked in NOI offices and were condemned when they turned up pregnant
“I want to make this as brief as I can, only enough so that my position and my reactions will be understood. As to whether or not I should reveal this, there’s no longer any need for any question in my mind—for now the public knows. To make it concise, I will quote from one wire service story as it appeared in newspapers, and was reported over radio and television, across the United States:
“Los Angeles, July 3 (UPI)—Elijah Muhammad, 67-year-old leader of the Black Muslim movement, today faced paternity suits from two former secretaries who charged he fathered their four children….Both women are in their twenties….Miss Rosary and Miss Williams charged they had intimacies with Elijah Muhammad from 1957 until this year. Miss Rosary alleged he fathered her two children and said she was expecting a third child by him…the other plaintiff said he was the father of her daughter….”
As far back as 1955, I had heard hints. But believe me when I tell you this: for me even to consider believing anything as insane-sounding as any slightest implication of any immoral behavior of Mr. Muhammad—why, the very idea made me shake with fear.
And so my mind simply refused to accept anything so grotesque as adultery mentioned in the same breath with Mr. Muhammad’s name.
Adultery! Why, any Muslim guilty of adultery was summarily ousted in disgrace. One of the Nation’s most closely kept scandals was that a succession of the personal secretaries of Mr. Muhammad had become pregnant. They were brought before Muslim courts and charged with adultery and they confessed. Humiliated before the
general body, they received sentences of from one to five years of “isolation.” That meant they were to have no contact whatsoever with any other Muslims.”
And later when Malcolm confronted Elijah face to face about about the allegations:
“Well, son,” Mr. Muhammad said, “what is on your mind?”
Plainly, frankly, pulling no punches, I told Mr. Muhammad what was being said. And without waiting for any response from him, I said that with his son Wallace’s help I had found in the Quran and the Bible that which might be taught to Muslims—if it became necessary—as the fulfillment of prophecy.
“Son, I’m not surprised,” Elijah Muhammad said. “You always have had such a good understanding of prophecy, and of spiritual things. You recognize that’s what all of this is—prophecy. You have the kind of understanding that only an old man has.
“I’m David,” he said. “When you
“read about how David took another man’s wife, I’m that David. You read about Noah, who got drunk—that’s me. You read about Lot, who went and laid up with his own daughters. I have to fulfill all of those things."
Excerpt From: X, Malcolm. “The Autobiography of Malcolm X.” Ballantine Books, 2015-06-17. iBooks.
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Malcolm is treacherous because he betrayed Elijah Muhammad. He made accusations that have not been proven to be true. Your best "proof" is the words of the accuser.How can you be treacherous because you are treacherous? The definition of treacherous is guilty of betrayal, you think exposing a pedophile and adultery is betrayal. Seek help.
Our lives wouldn't mirror simply because he was a Muslim and I am not. Besides that you know nothing about me. Salaam.
so Wallace wasn't let go from the Nation? You know nothing (word to Jon Snow). Go do YOUR history.I never said Elijah denounced his son, because he didn't denounce his son. Like I said, you don't know the history.
Go do your research. Stop being lazy. I'm really starting to think you don't know shyt and just want me to educate you. I've already stated where you can get that information.What ever became of those paternity suits?
If Calling a pedophile out is betrayal to you then seek help and also stay away from children. My best proof is the words of the victims and the accuser who would've died for Elijah.Malcolm is treacherous because he betrayed Elijah Muhammad. He made accusations that have not been proven to be true. Your best "proof" is the words of the accuser.
Macolm X is just the cool Pro-Black thing that one claims to represent. The "love Malcolm, f-ck Nation of Islam" crowd are merely Pro-Black in the name of the whiteman
Wallace was not let go, he was given time-out on a few occasions, that's temporary. His father never denounced him. Try againso Wallace wasn't let go from the Nation? You know nothing (word to Jon Snow). Go do YOUR history.
You only gave me the accuser's words.Go do your research. Stop being lazy. I'm really starting to think you don't know shyt and just want me to educate you. I've already stated where you can get that information.
Malcolm accusing someone of something doesn't make it true.If Calling a pedophile out is betrayal to you then seek help and also stay away from children. My best proof is the words of the victims and the accuser who would've died for Elijah.
Even Malcolm and Wallace BOTH searched for scriptures to try and justify the evils of Elijah Mohammed.
I'm pro-black in the name of being pro-black.
Wallace was not let go, he was given time-out on a few occasions, that's temporary. His father never denounced him. Try again
You only gave me the accuser's words.
What became of those paternity suits?
It does when that man basically worshipped Elijah.Malcolm accusing someone of something doesn't make it true.
Malcolm and Wallace were skillful deceivers.
The whiteman puts Malcolm out there just enough to keep you away from Elijah, the true militant radical revolutionary. Enjoy your watered down icon.
Wallace was still around 10 years after Malcolm, and he wasn't just some rank and file member. This isn't semantics, this has to do with the structure of the organization.Denounce: synonyms ... criticize, condemn, attack, etc
fukk your games of semantics and fukk out my face. He spoke out against Wallace did he not?
I know the answer, the question was rhetorical.Go do your research and find out
Elijah always warned that a man could turn hypocrite over night. Malcolm is the prime example.It does when that man basically worshipped Elijah.
Elijah the adulterer was the only deceiver. Salaam.
and? He was also excommunicated more than once. Matter of fact what are u even arguing? What does this paragraph have to do with anything?Wallace was still around 10 years after Malcolm, and he wasn't just some rank and file member. This isn't semantics, this has to do with the structure of the organization.
cool. I like how when I did your homework for u you didn't even address that.I know the answer, the question was rhetorical.
A hypocrite overnight because he calls u out on your bullshyt?Elijah always warned that a man could turn hypocrite over night. Malcolm is the prime example.
It means you're talking about the Nation of Islam, and you don't know anything about the Nation of Islam. You're worshipping the personality of a man you real know nothing about. And you're making up stuff.and? He was also excommunicated more than once. Matter of fact what are u even arguing? What does this paragraph have to do with anything?
You really don't know what happened with those paternity suits.cool. I like how when I did your homework for u you didn't even address that.
If you knew anything about NOI, you would understand that hypocrite statement. Malcolm is all symbol to you, you're not built for the substance.A hypocrite overnight because he calls u out on your bullshyt?
A hypocrite is someone who says one thing but does another or vis versa. Or someone who puts on a false appearance. That sounds more like Elijah Mohammed the adulterer and pedophile who pretended to be a prophet but didn't follow true Islam... and instead made up his own bootleg version. Which brings me... Isnt Mohammed the last Prophet? You bozos are so confused.
I know enough about that offshoot bullshyt. Thank Allah that Shabazz did hajj and found himself and realized NOI and true Islam were incongruent. Allahu Akbar!It means you're talking about the Nation of Islam, and you don't know anything about the Nation of Islam. You're worshipping the personality of a man you real know nothing about. And you're making up stuff.
You really don't know what happened with those paternity suits.
If you knew anything about NOI, you would understand that hypocrite statement. Malcolm is all symbol to you, you're not built for the substance.
You already said you're not a Muslim, why are you talking this last prophet stuff? Ask Malcolm that question, he explained. But that's right, you can only get with the personality.
Malcolm trading a Black-centric, Black theology for that of pale Arabs is defined as "finding himself" to you. You are stupid, you are the confused one.I know enough about that offshoot bullshyt. Thank Allah that Shabazz did hajj and found himself and realized NOI and true Islam were incongruent. Allahu Akbar!
What did I make up ? It doesn't fit your narrative so you call it made up
I know the answer, you wouldn't like the answer.Do your own research. I'm not looking shyt else up for you. You're lazy. You're not fooling me
You Malcolmites don't even realize how much you're insulting Malcolm's intelligence when you say stupid sh-t like he found true Islam on Hajj. As if he didn't understand the differences in the 13 years prior.You ain't built for knowledge. You ain't saying shyt besides "you're in love of personality" as if charisma isn't what draws people to each other. Foh.
Good to see you back.Marriage is about growing together and having the same goals. Love is greatly overestimated.