All this tanking shyt throughout the league is starting to make NBA basketball unwatchable for me. I had to watch the Clippers broadcast on league pass and 1 of their commentators made a great point IMO. He said do away with the draft and install a hard cap and that would eliminate tanking. Sounds like a plan to me. What is the incentive for keeping the draft around? What are the pros in maintaining the system as is? As a fan, what's the fun in rooting for losses for your team to have a better shot at a player that may or may not pan out? Why keep watching when your squad decides flush the rest of the season by February? Thoughts?
A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread
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Thing is nets arent tanking, their pick for the draft belongs to Cleveland
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The same thing you saying, I said since last season, pimpin'. I'm very anti-tanking.
Great. What do you think of eliminating the draft and installing a hard cap on every team? Did you say that last season?
Several teams are tanking tho. The Nets just don't have the talent to compete consistently every night.
I don't think any owner, executive, coach, player, or fan is "pro-tanking" in the sense of wanting to play bad basketball and lose.
Everyone I mentioned just understands that the system is set up a certain way and that's what has to be done. If the league changes it one day, cool, until then teams in that limbo should do what they have to do and attempt to harbor talent just like Philly did.
Everyone I mentioned just understands that the system is set up a certain way and that's what has to be done. If the league changes it one day, cool, until then teams in that limbo should do what they have to do and attempt to harbor talent just like Philly did.
I wasn't a believer in KOQ before this season, but I've gotta give him his props. He's played his ass off this season. I hope he signs with a contender in his eventual free agency rather return to this dumpster fire.
I don't think any players are "pro-tanking" at all. Coaches with some job security might be a little bit.
But owners? Execs?
Didn't Marc Cuban just get in trouble for telling his team their best direction is to lose as many games as possible? I believe there are a number of owners and execs that think this way but Cuban was the only one to say it out loud.
As for fans, dudes in this thread having been talking tank all season. Dudes were mad last year when Phil tried to construct a playoff roster around Melo.
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It's an interesting idea, I heard the idea of getting rid of the draft before but coupling it with a hard cap actually makes it sound like a good idea. I thought that giving every non playoff team the same odds in the draft could work, but that would result in some "mid-tier" tanking, with a bunch of teams trying to avoid the 7th and 8th seed instead.
Small market teams wouldn't get screwed as bad with a hard cap in place, I actually can't think of a total downside, but I'm tired right now. I'mma reflect on this idea a bit
edit: Top players would still prefer certain cities of course, but depending on where the hard cap is set, teams wouldn't be able to hoard top players, or they would have to sacrifice quality depth to do so. Obviously it would be a lot harder to keep homegrown talent, which would kind of suck. An effective hard cap could also mean less potential money for players too, in which case a hard cap would never happen.
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qnsfinest
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The thing with tanking is. We know we’re stuck in purgatory and we suck, the fans know it and the media knows it. Our roster isn’t good enough to compete for a playoff spot let alone a championship. So why go out there and win 30 games and be stuck in the same treadmill position for years and years.
Why not go out there and win 20 games, get a top 3 pick and possibly draft a franchise player so you can compete for a playoff spot and possibly a ring in the future. Of course it’s not guarantee that top 3 pick turns into a superstar. But that’s a risk I’m willing to take, I’d rather have my number 1 pick be a bust than my number 15 pick coming off the bench giving me 10 minutes a game.
Why not go out there and win 20 games, get a top 3 pick and possibly draft a franchise player so you can compete for a playoff spot and possibly a ring in the future. Of course it’s not guarantee that top 3 pick turns into a superstar. But that’s a risk I’m willing to take, I’d rather have my number 1 pick be a bust than my number 15 pick coming off the bench giving me 10 minutes a game.
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The main arguments for the draft are leveling the playing field. If you let rookies pick, they'll do the same things the vets do. If a team with stars made cap space, they'd be landing top tier rookies because everyone prefers the winner with the stacked roster. Small market teams also need those rookie scale contracts to get superstars and afford to build around them. So throwing out the cap limits and FA implications will never happen.
But I do think evening up the odds more for the teams at the bottom will help some. Right now we reward the team the worse it is, if 5-10 had the same odds...no good reason to tank unless you've been bottoming out all year. I can't remember the exact adjustments to the draft, but they're doing this starting next year and we can see how it works out.
Also...the way the Knicks are tanking isn't how it's supposed to be done. You had the Knicks mounting a furious comeback with Beasley, Lee and KOQ making the plays while the Kings didn't bother with timeouts and let Skal shoot the deciding shot. One team's coach literally benched the youth for vets to chase a win during a tank, while the other guy let the kids decide whether it'd be a win or loss. It's beyond frustrating.
Lol I stayed out of the thread all year due to all the people who loved tanking so much last seasonOh...
I don't want to do away with a draft.
I also believe doing away with a draft would favor big markets and be at a disadvantage to places like no Utah.
I just want something to happen to ensure that every game I watch has athletes and their organizations trying to put out the best product of entertainment that they can.
I want to just watch basketball played by trying teams.
The NBA product is garbage.
I also believe doing away with a draft would favor big markets and be at a disadvantage to places like no Utah.
I just want something to happen to ensure that every game I watch has athletes and their organizations trying to put out the best product of entertainment that they can.
I want to just watch basketball played by trying teams.
The NBA product is garbage.
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