Under 45 seconds remaining in the game, this dumbass Beasley decides to jack up a contested mid range jumper when the Knicks are down by six points. That's using 10% of your brain right there, folks. 
A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread
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These fakkits coming down to Orlando next week. Contemplating whether I should go or not
Lemme check these ticket prices. Hope they went down.
Lemme check these ticket prices. Hope they went down.
Miles Davis
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These fakkits coming down to Orlando next week. Contemplating whether I should go or not
Lemme check these ticket prices. Hope they went down.
Put that money to something better breh
The War Report
NewNewYork
I tuned in and they were up 25 in the 2nd quarter. I don't know why y'all bother watching games anymore. KP was the reason to keep watching.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
He barely plays as it is Hornaceck just refuses to play himHas trey and Dotson gotten off the bench at all tonight? That Kormet dude was getting a little buzz what happened to him?
They got to fire Hornecek and bring in a development coach. The motherfukker rode Jarret to a loss......
how hard is it for Hornecek to understand "Player Development"
GetInTheTruck
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It was never going to be pretty...Tankathon | 2018 NBA Draft Order & Lottery Simulator
Jmare007
pico pal q lee
Man there's 9 teams blatantly tanking, March and April are gonna be UGLY AS fukk
Can the Knicks even get in the top 6?
ogc163
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tremonthustler1
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I heard what happened 
storyteller
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The Knicks have figured out a way to take all of the fun out of a rebuild and tank. Blessed by a torrid start from Tim Hardaway, Jeff Hornacek chased a win by focusing a huge allotment of minutes to players over 25 while the youth sat out and took notes (Mudiay being the exception). So it was on the backs of the vets that a 27 point lead turned into a 5 point loss. Knicks fans at this point seem to be ready for losses, but the reason to keep watching is to see how the young guys handle adversity and if they'll start to figure things out as they get opportunities to play through mistakes. That wasn't the case last night. So it was another loss, another blown lead and there's nobody to blame but the veteran players that Jeff can't seem to let go of. What good are lottery picks if your coach won't give them minutes even when you're tanking?
Tim Hardaway: It was a tale of two halves for Hardaway. He broke his slump in a big way in the first half, letting the game come to him early and then firing on all cylinders once he caught fire. But in the second half he was practically forced to press the issue, as no one else was effective offensively and the ball kept finding his hands. The Wizards made a determined effort to stop Hardaway and the rest of the team collapsed around that effort. 37 points, 5 boards and 2 steals are his stand out numbers especially with the 14/24 from the field that he shot. Tim's not really a focal point scorer with his streaky shooting and questionable decision-making but if you can get some guys out there with gravity; Tim can be a quality scorer. His value lies on adding those boards, getting some steals, pushing some fast breaks and playing some damned defense (it's regressed some since the stress fracture).
Kanter: Kanter continues to be a likeable guy that won't quit out there which makes him a force. 24 points, 14 boards and 5 assists for the big man who produced all night. His big issue continues to be defense. When Satoransky shot poorly early, he found his field goals inside over Kanter. The Wizards second half offense consisted of constant pick and roll attacks targeting Kanter as the big and Jack or THJ as the guard. It worked all half, including late when you expect guys to give max effort. Kanter's numbers are great and his impact is positive but it's going to be limited by his defense.
Beasley: Michael Beasley shot 8/24, obliterating his usual efficient play and replacing it with a vintage Welo type performance. 16 points, 11 boards and 3 assists from Beas looks solid but the performance was wrought with forced shots and bad defensive play. The brightside was his passing, he really whipped some nice passes to cutters along the way. But overall this was pretty bad from a guy who has typically been strong for us.
Lee: Lee has been regressing to the mean lately. 8 points, 3 assists, 3 boards and his defense was indistinguishable because he was typically rocking with 4 subpar defenders. Outside of a 4th quarter run that he had with a couple of field goals, Lee might was quiet.
Jack: Jarrett Jack played 28 minutes, went 1/5 from the field and had the privilege of getting assists any time he passed to his backcourt partner Tim Hardaway for a half. He was also the clear target for the Wizards offense, largely ineffective and his veteran savvy saw him force feeding Hardaway in the second half (which helped THJ be blocked 4 times in the third quarter alone). He was less maestro more my God this is ugly.
Mudiay: I'm convinced this kid has no clue how to draw a foul which is killing his efficiency at the rim in spite of his ability to get there often. He had 8 points on 3/9 field goals, 3 assists and 3 boards in 20 minutes but also managed 4 TO's. He played enthusiastic defense early but it faded fast and he was almost as bad as Jack by the fourth quarter. Passing wise, he does find people but the Wiz would force him to drive deep and they were recovering before his kickouts could lead to jumpers. So Mudiay just had a rough night, but I want him to keep driving and hopefully someone on the Knicks staff starts going over the film with him to point out...sell the contact, flail and scream if you've gotta but stop letting guys get away with bumping you low for no whistle.
Frank: It's never easy to show promise in just 11 minutes. Frank got pulled for having some trouble with screens but there were some real flashes of promise in what little time he got. In that span he managed 2 lay-ups, a pair of FTA's and a kickout assist...because he was driving. His first lay-up was a true standout play as he took Ian Mahinimi off the dribble and used his length to flip an lay-up in from outside the bigman's reach. Frank finally showed signs of breaking down a defense but managed to be the only Knick punished for his defensive play in a game where the entire roster got abused.
Lance: Lance had 8 points on 3 of 4 from the field in 19 minutes, 2 of which were three pointers. I can't complain about him but tbh, he's another guy whose presence was muted by the poor defense surrounding him.
KOQ: Kyle O'Quinn really didn't provide much interior presence on defense and since that's the place where he separates himself from Kanter in a positive way, he wasn't really needed. 14 minutes, 2 points and 2 boards where essentially nothing he did stood out as particularly good or bad.
Hornacek: Sometimes the rookies struggle and sometimes it's hard to tell if they're struggling or just not getting minutes. This has been the story of Hornacek all year. Willy's raw numbers looked awful, his per36 numbers actually ran similar to last season when he was an exciting and promising rookie. Frank was 2 for 2, slashing and scoring; providing what Knicks fans have been hoping to see from him but it wasn't enough to stay out there. Meanwhile Jarrett Jack was 1/5 in another loss but dominated the minutes. Listen, some people will say "well the rookies are bad" but what exactly makes Jack good? Not defense. His assist numbers SHOULD be better with the only offensive weapons on the roster all starting with him. He's not getting wins either. If the Knicks are going to be bad and tanking, which they will be; then the effort should be focused on the youth. Let the kids sink or swim and hang on to the ones who figure it out. The second half of this season is an opportunity that shouldn't be wasted on a veteran group that wasn't winning games BEFORE KP got hurt (worst record in the NBA since Christmas). My honest take is that Jeff's not the right coach for this team. No frills, no jokes, I just think the Knicks need a coach who is more consistent with his treatment of players; doesn't have a myriad of players questioning him (both seasons in NY and also his second in PHX); and who finds ways to get his rookie minutes like every other coach of a lottery pick has (not counting the injured ones).
Tim Hardaway: It was a tale of two halves for Hardaway. He broke his slump in a big way in the first half, letting the game come to him early and then firing on all cylinders once he caught fire. But in the second half he was practically forced to press the issue, as no one else was effective offensively and the ball kept finding his hands. The Wizards made a determined effort to stop Hardaway and the rest of the team collapsed around that effort. 37 points, 5 boards and 2 steals are his stand out numbers especially with the 14/24 from the field that he shot. Tim's not really a focal point scorer with his streaky shooting and questionable decision-making but if you can get some guys out there with gravity; Tim can be a quality scorer. His value lies on adding those boards, getting some steals, pushing some fast breaks and playing some damned defense (it's regressed some since the stress fracture).
Kanter: Kanter continues to be a likeable guy that won't quit out there which makes him a force. 24 points, 14 boards and 5 assists for the big man who produced all night. His big issue continues to be defense. When Satoransky shot poorly early, he found his field goals inside over Kanter. The Wizards second half offense consisted of constant pick and roll attacks targeting Kanter as the big and Jack or THJ as the guard. It worked all half, including late when you expect guys to give max effort. Kanter's numbers are great and his impact is positive but it's going to be limited by his defense.
Beasley: Michael Beasley shot 8/24, obliterating his usual efficient play and replacing it with a vintage Welo type performance. 16 points, 11 boards and 3 assists from Beas looks solid but the performance was wrought with forced shots and bad defensive play. The brightside was his passing, he really whipped some nice passes to cutters along the way. But overall this was pretty bad from a guy who has typically been strong for us.
Lee: Lee has been regressing to the mean lately. 8 points, 3 assists, 3 boards and his defense was indistinguishable because he was typically rocking with 4 subpar defenders. Outside of a 4th quarter run that he had with a couple of field goals, Lee might was quiet.
Jack: Jarrett Jack played 28 minutes, went 1/5 from the field and had the privilege of getting assists any time he passed to his backcourt partner Tim Hardaway for a half. He was also the clear target for the Wizards offense, largely ineffective and his veteran savvy saw him force feeding Hardaway in the second half (which helped THJ be blocked 4 times in the third quarter alone). He was less maestro more my God this is ugly.
Mudiay: I'm convinced this kid has no clue how to draw a foul which is killing his efficiency at the rim in spite of his ability to get there often. He had 8 points on 3/9 field goals, 3 assists and 3 boards in 20 minutes but also managed 4 TO's. He played enthusiastic defense early but it faded fast and he was almost as bad as Jack by the fourth quarter. Passing wise, he does find people but the Wiz would force him to drive deep and they were recovering before his kickouts could lead to jumpers. So Mudiay just had a rough night, but I want him to keep driving and hopefully someone on the Knicks staff starts going over the film with him to point out...sell the contact, flail and scream if you've gotta but stop letting guys get away with bumping you low for no whistle.
Frank: It's never easy to show promise in just 11 minutes. Frank got pulled for having some trouble with screens but there were some real flashes of promise in what little time he got. In that span he managed 2 lay-ups, a pair of FTA's and a kickout assist...because he was driving. His first lay-up was a true standout play as he took Ian Mahinimi off the dribble and used his length to flip an lay-up in from outside the bigman's reach. Frank finally showed signs of breaking down a defense but managed to be the only Knick punished for his defensive play in a game where the entire roster got abused.
Lance: Lance had 8 points on 3 of 4 from the field in 19 minutes, 2 of which were three pointers. I can't complain about him but tbh, he's another guy whose presence was muted by the poor defense surrounding him.
KOQ: Kyle O'Quinn really didn't provide much interior presence on defense and since that's the place where he separates himself from Kanter in a positive way, he wasn't really needed. 14 minutes, 2 points and 2 boards where essentially nothing he did stood out as particularly good or bad.
Hornacek: Sometimes the rookies struggle and sometimes it's hard to tell if they're struggling or just not getting minutes. This has been the story of Hornacek all year. Willy's raw numbers looked awful, his per36 numbers actually ran similar to last season when he was an exciting and promising rookie. Frank was 2 for 2, slashing and scoring; providing what Knicks fans have been hoping to see from him but it wasn't enough to stay out there. Meanwhile Jarrett Jack was 1/5 in another loss but dominated the minutes. Listen, some people will say "well the rookies are bad" but what exactly makes Jack good? Not defense. His assist numbers SHOULD be better with the only offensive weapons on the roster all starting with him. He's not getting wins either. If the Knicks are going to be bad and tanking, which they will be; then the effort should be focused on the youth. Let the kids sink or swim and hang on to the ones who figure it out. The second half of this season is an opportunity that shouldn't be wasted on a veteran group that wasn't winning games BEFORE KP got hurt (worst record in the NBA since Christmas). My honest take is that Jeff's not the right coach for this team. No frills, no jokes, I just think the Knicks need a coach who is more consistent with his treatment of players; doesn't have a myriad of players questioning him (both seasons in NY and also his second in PHX); and who finds ways to get his rookie minutes like every other coach of a lottery pick has (not counting the injured ones).
Had no idea the Knicks had a game last night. And in my local market too 
It ever occur to yall that with all the bad coaching yall saying Hornacek did last night, that he's the true tank commander on some Emperor Palpatine shyt?
It ever occur to yall that with all the bad coaching yall saying Hornacek did last night, that he's the true tank commander on some Emperor Palpatine shyt?
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
Had no idea the Knicks had a game last night. And in my local market too
It ever occur to yall that with all the bad coaching yall saying Hornacek did last night, that he's the true tank commander on some Emperor Palpatine shyt?
Only reason I’ve tuned in recently is cause they said youth would get more minutes and they fooled me again, if they ain’t giving heavy minutes to the young players after asb I’m done watching the team for the season. I just don’t get what they’re struggling with, even if we make the playoffs now KP ain’t here to bail us out for a round. This franchise seems so shortsighted, there’s problems top down
