A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

[Miles Davis]

Watching this Real Madrid/ Olympiacos game, Chasson Randle plays for Real Madrid.


Sidebar, Doncic might be the real deal.

Young Randle
Didn’t even stay long enough for us to get him a proper nickname

 

[Ironman]

Young Randle
Didn’t even stay long enough for us to get him a proper nickname

That injury was WOAT for his career

 

[Ironman]

Soooo.. Fizdale thinks the Mudiay pick up was a good one...

I think he might be coming here after Hornaceck gets the pink slip

 

[Ironman]

Ayo the hell is that with that long ass post?

 

[Miles Davis]

I think he might be coming here after Hornaceck gets the pink slip

I hope so. But I don’t see it happening, I ain’t got hope in the Front Office.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Some see the New York Knicks' trade for point guard Emmanuel Mudiay as a sign that the organization has lost faith in rookie point guard Frank Ntilikina.

Knicks general manager Scott Perry strongly disagreed with that theory Friday.

"The organization is not down on Frank," Perry said in a conference call. "He's going to be fine. This isn't in any way a negative reflection on him and who we think he's going to be and who he has an opportunity to be. I've said to you many times, he's a 19-year-old kid who has some very good tools and a lot of upside."

Perry said he envisions Mudiay and Ntilikina "competing with one another, and alongside one another, and learning from one another." He also believes Ntilikina can share the same backcourt with the 21-year-old Mudiay.

"I think it will help each one of these guys, really," Perry said. "I'm excited to see how [it] manifests itself on the court. I think there's some promising options that could lie here."

The Knicks traded Doug McDermott and a 2018 second-round pick away in a three-team deal with the Dallas Mavericks and Denver Nuggets that netted Mudiay. Perry on Friday labeled the trade as the "talent-acquisition phase" of roster construction in New York, an indication that the club faces a long rebuild ahead with star Kristaps Porzingis sidelined for at least 10 months with a left ACL tear.

Prior to the Porzingis injury, the Knicks held out hope of making the playoffs. With Porzingis out, the Knicks' focus has shifted to the 2018 NBA draft and to acquiring young players like Mudiay in low-risk acquisitions.

Mudiay, the seventh overall pick in the 2015 NBA draft, did not meet expectations in Denver.

He averaged 8.5 points and 2.9 assists this season while coming off the bench with the Nuggets this season after starting in his first two years the league.

According to ESPN Stats & Information research, only Stanley Johnson and Marcus Smart have played as many minutes while shooting worse than Mudiay, whose career percentage is 37.5. He also has struggled defensively, ranking last in the league among all point guards in defensive real plus-minus.

Perry is hopeful that Mudiay can realize some of his potential in New York.

"During my 18 years in the league, I've seen so many players where it's taken time," he said. "Just because a player doesn't hit the ground and become a star right away or struggles for 3-4 years in a particular place -- or places for that matter -- doesn't mean that they can't become good NBA players."

Perry also touted the Knicks' player development program, headed by executive Craig Robinson, when discussing Mudiay's potential in New York. He believes the competition for minutes among Mudiay, Ntilikina and young guard Trey Burke will be beneficial.

"We've got to compete internally as well as we can, and if you compete well internally, it gives you a better chance to compete externally," the first-year GM said.

In addition to trading for Mudiay, the Knicks also tried to trade veteran center Joakim Noah prior to Thursday's trade deadline. New York was unable to find a deal, and the club and Noah have mutually agreed that he will remain away from the team until further notice in the wake of an argument with head coach Jeff Hornacek.

Earlier this week, Noah remained opposed to any buyout negotiations on the remainder of the four-year, $72 million contract he signed in the 2016 offseason, sources say.

In general, Perry said the Porzingis injury won't change his approach to building the Knicks' roster. Porzingis' injury, though, clearly gives the Knicks an opportunity to build through the draft rather than trying to chase a playoff berth. New York, which has missed the playoffs for four straight seasons, owns all of its first-round picks going forward. The club projects to have significant cap space in the summer of 2019.

"We're not going to try to do something short-term to jeopardize our opportunity to build [something] sustainable," Perry said. "We're going to continue to add talent, we're going to continue to make moves that are very prudent."

 

[ISO]

“Perry also touted the Knicks' player development program, headed by executive Craig Robinson, when discussing Mudiay's potential in New York. He believes the competition for minutes among Mudiay, Ntilikina and young guard Trey Burke will be beneficial.

"We've got to compete internally as well as we can, and if you compete well internally, it gives you a better chance to compete externally," the first-year GM said.”

I disagree with this bullshyt.

In no ways is creating logjams at positions “beneficial”.

 

[Miles Davis]

Especially when Jack ain’t losing no damn minutes, they gonna have these young players in the locker room fighting to the death for garbage minutes.

 

[Ironman]

“Perry also touted the Knicks' player development program, headed by executive Craig Robinson, when discussing Mudiay's potential in New York. He believes the competition for minutes among Mudiay, Ntilikina and young guard Trey Burke will be beneficial.

"We've got to compete internally as well as we can, and if you compete well internally, it gives you a better chance to compete externally," the first-year GM said.”

I disagree with this bullshyt.

In no ways is creating logjams at positions “beneficial”.

How we see this and they still don't

 

[K-ZOE]

How we see this and they still don't

Oh they see it. Mills and Perry are not gonna just come out and say they have ZERO confidence in Frank long term at point guard. This was a PC answer. If they had a shred of faith in the kid, Burke wouldn't have been called up and Mudiay wouldn't have been traded for. Not to mention he's failed to unseat a 34 year old Jarrett Jack. These moves don't happen if Phil drafts DSJ or Mitchell. Unless he comes back with new improved handles and a willingness to attack the rim, I see Frank getting moved by the deadline next year. If there are any takers

 

[ISO]

How we see this and they still don't

We came into this season with positional logjams at PG, SF, and C.

This is not how you build a team.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Oh they see it. Mills and Perry are not gonna just come out and say they have ZERO confidence in Frank long term at point guard. This was a PC answer. If they had a shred of faith in the kid, Burke wouldn't have been called up and Mudiay wouldn't have been traded for. Not to mention he's failed to unseat a 34 year old Jarrett Jack. These moves don't happen if Phil drafts DSJ or Mitchell. Unless he comes back with new improved handles and a willingness to attack the rim, I see Frank getting moved by the deadline next year. If there are any takers

if dennis smith was here, he would be starting every game and we wouldnt have 6 point guards

 

[K-ZOE]

if dennis smith was here, he would be starting every game and we wouldnt have 6 point guards

 

[Miles Davis]

Y’all just as bad with the DSJ shyt as y’all we with Melo, broken records. He’s still young give him at least 2 more seasons. That defintely was a PC answer though, their actions show they’ve no faith.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]