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[OneManGang]

Why is it when black people do well or get accomplishments we prop them up as representatives of all of us…those are OUR accomplishments as blacks

But in this case, oh they don’t represent all of us, they don’t speak for us

 

[br82186]

What's crazy is I see both of them doing something where they're both gonna get blowback. People already getting tired of their and other 304's antics.

But the crazy thing is that, it's gonna get worse because I see another woman doing much worse later.

 

[King Poetic]

I was watching Reggie Wright Jr bomb 1st on YouTube

He talk about how the white executives listen to either dre, snoop or Tupac album I forgot which one, but they had a lyric in their about white or jewish woman and the label said u have to removed that before we put this out suge..

U see they had no problem with them talking about spraying nikkas up or making videos pouring liquor over a black woman head, thats all fine.. but u damn sure not disrespecting white/jewish women..

But these nikkas wasnt turning down money for black women and men respect and dignity

 

[Consigliere]

Lowlife White trash aren't deemed to be embarrassing larger white society. I wonder why..

This is dumb. They literally refer to these people as white trash.

They are unapologetically making the distinction that some of y’all wanted to crucify Chris Rock for making.

 

[Ahadi]

Why does everything have to be in juxtaposition to what they do tho...our standards should be our standards. Ain't got nothing to do with nobody else

Gahdamn y'all keep the white mans dikk in y'all mouth

Until ninjas control their own media / circulate media dollars you can easily flip this shyt.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

you can’t lump chief keef in with those other people. i’m not saying he’s perfect or hasn’t promoted a certain image that isn’t exactly a positive representation of young black men, but he carries himself a lot better.

Breh, you have to wildly hate women to claim that Chief Keef isn't negative enough to be lumped in with them. Let's see:


Drops out of high school at 14, freshman year

At 15, Keef is arrested for heroin manufacture and distribution and sentenced to house arrest.

That year, Keef puts out a mixtape with a picture of him holding a gun on the cover and gets a bit of local fame. His facebook profile lists his profession as "selling dope."

At 16, Keef sneaks out of his grandmother's home with a gun out, holding a jacket over it. A officer notices and stops to question him, Keef drops the coat, flashes the gun at the officer, and takes off, pointing the gun at the officer several times in the process and causing the officer to open fire. He's sentenced to house arrest again. Publicity regarding his arrest, home detention, and release, which was promoted on WorldStar, largely drives his rise to fame.

Keef's first child is born. He is later sued for unpaid child support.

Keef's debut single, "I Don't Like", becomes a major hit.

Still just 16, Keef is signed to Interscope after a bidding war.

Keef uploads a video of a fan giving him a blowjob on Instagram, causing him to lose his Instagram account.

At 17, Keef is investigated concerning the murder of Lil JoJo, and openly mocks JoJo's murder on social media. Joseph Coleman's mother believes to this day that Keef paid to have her son killed.

Just two months later, Keef is remanded to two months in juvenile detention for probation violations when he fires guns at a shooting range during an interview with Pitchfork Media.

Before that trial, Keef is sued by his promotion company for missing a show with no warning or reason given. He ignored the lawsuit and is ordered by the court to be guilty by default and fined $230,000.

Keef's debut album is released, with all of the hit singles glorifying gang violence, drug dealing, drug use, and his previous arrests.

While in juvenile detention, Keef's second child is born. He later has to be court-ordered to pay child support.

Two months after getting out of juvi, Keef is arrested again for smoking marijuana in public and disorderly conduct. He is later sentenced to 90 days in rehab.

Eight days later and before that court appearance even comes, he is arrested again for driving 110 in a 55, as well as booked for having too many passengers (he's still just 17 at this time). He is later sentenced to a fine, community service, and 18 more months on probation with random drug tests for the speeding violation.

About this time, Keef misses another show without warning or reason, later leading to another lawsuit against him.

Four months later, 18yo Keef tests positive for marijuana and is sentenced to 20 days in jail.

12 days after he gets out, Keef is arrested for another probation violation and forced into rehab.

Just after getting out of rehab, Keef is sued again for missing a show without warning.

Only a month after getting out of rehab, Keef is arrested for driving under the influence of marijuana, driving on a suspended license, and having no proof of insurance.

Three months later, Keef is evicted from his Chicago home. He is not yet 19 years old.

At 19yo, Keef is sued for child support for the 3rd time, by the 3rd different woman.

After Capo and the Migos are involved in an altercation, Keef uploads an Instagram photo of Quavo's stolen chain

At 20yo, Keef fathers another child. He names his son "FilmOn Dot Com" to promote his label and upcoming album.

At 21yo, Keef was arrested for armed robbery and aggravated assault of Ramsay Tha Great. The charges are eventually dropped for lack of evidence.

Five months after that, he is arrested against for smoking marijuana and drug paraphernalia and given a suspended sentence.

At 22yo, Keef releases the song "I Kill People", a diss track aimed at 6ix9ine and Cuban Doll. Four weeks later, he is fired upon while at a hotel, on orders from 6ix9ine.

I'll stop there, but just point out he's now up to 9 kids with 9 different mothers and he's only 27.



Now, let's add in the fact that his music unabashedly promotes drug use, guns, gang violence, and generally antisocial behavior with Keef only half dressed through most of it....how exactly was he carrying himself any better at his height than these women are?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Why is it when black people do well or get accomplishments we prop them up as representatives of all of us…those are OUR accomplishments as blacks

But in this case, oh they don’t represent all of us, they don’t speak for us

I don't see that as a contradiction at all. Black excellence represents what Black people are capable of. That can be inspiring and combats racist narratives.

Some idiot doing stupid shyt only represents themselves. Anyone is capable of stupid shyt, so there's no reason to consider it representative.

True, anyone from any race is capable of both the best actions and the worst actions. But there's a particular societal reason why Black Excellence has been downplayed in the past, and thus needs to be highlighted in order to combat that historical slight. Whereas there's no legitimate reason to associate some bad example with every other Black person (unless Black folk themselves are associating with and promoting it, which is what I think needs to stop).

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

Because they don't represent everyone dimbass

Lol y'all nikkas lost in the damn sauce! Them buzzards are in the wrong, they should be ostracized, point blank. But here y'all simp ass dudes go: "well it's not everyone....bu bu bu what about when white people do it"

You goofy, they are the upper class....we are at the fukkin bottom. Can't you see why it's not the same
Tryna justify comparing everything we do to the other side. The other side that nikkas claim they want to get from up under does absolutely no service because we aren't in their position, duh!

We don't control shyt. And we are the damn opposition so OF COURSE they won't highlight all the negatives going on with their folks...for what?!!!

So therefore, bozo, it behooves us to establish our OWN standards we should be holding each other to...and then move as a unit. Not slurping the white man up, bringing him into everything we got going on.
But that's truly a foreign concept to the overwhelming majority of our people, yo goofy ass included . Y'all can't see a world without white people setting the standards for how your people should conduct themselves


A "couple" bad apples does effect a minority class that's without structure of any kind , on just about every level.


fukk out my mentions man, don't quote me again. I ain't responding

 

[V Skyye]

The time has come and gone to put a lid on pornographic and violent music. That was the late 80s. Now it’s either condemn it all or don’t even bother, because where is the line drawn? Selling drugs? Killing people? Sexually explicit lyrics? Most of our favorite and most respected rappers are guilty of all of the above. So who decides what’s too explicit and raunchy?

Music about sucking dikk, eating p*ssy, and fukking is readily available for all to hear on the radio day and night.

 

[OneManGang]

I don't see that as a contradiction at all. Black excellence represents what Black people are capable of. That can be inspiring and combats racist narratives.

Some idiot doing stupid shyt only represents themselves. Anyone is capable of stupid shyt, so there's no reason to consider it representative.

True, anyone from any race is capable of both the best actions and the worst actions. But there's a particular societal reason why Black Excellence has been downplayed in the past, and thus needs to be highlighted in order to combat that historical slight. Whereas there's no legitimate reason to associate some bad example with every other Black person (unless Black folk themselves are associating with and promoting it, which is what I think needs to stop).

I hear you. The problem is though, as you said, unfortunately our worst is highlighted and displayed for all to see by big media companies and ourselves.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

It’s interesting how a woman can get doxxed for not staying quiet for a Beyoncé mute part of a song, but these women can just continue with their fukkery.

Embarrass black people no pushback, I bet if sexyred or the other one said negative comments about Beyoncé they would disappear and go missing the folliwingv48 hours. Lol

Say what??

 

[jay83]

Say what??

 

[kevm3]

Although I've enjoyed rap, I think it needs to go into the garbage. This is the only musical form where the bar is low enough to allow Sukis and Redd's in to spout their overly filthy nonsense.

Black music went from singing harmoniously with uplifting lyrics and simultaneously playing instruments to twerking and singing about a bootyhole color

 

[⠀X ⠀]

The funny thing is that Black women don’t seem all that embarrassed by them. If they are, they’re certainly silent about it. Very few will call them out

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Although I've enjoyed rap, I think it needs to go into the garbage. This is the only musical form where the bar is low enough to allow Sukis and Redd's in to spout their overly filthy nonsense.

Black music went from singing harmoniously with uplifting lyrics and simultaneously playing instruments to twerking and singing about a bootyhole color

This is how I feel. Throw the whole genre in the trash and I'm a hardcore hip hop fan. But it has done way more damage to our community than good. The harm far outweighs the benefits, if there are any benefits. I don't see any.