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I’ve never been a consistent Lupe listener, so I can’t really speak on him, but I’m a huge Styles P fan and his voice is MUCH different than his early years. He was super raw and angry on songs like Holiday, fukk You, the State Property, and stuff like then, then gradually went to a somewhat deliberate and chilled out flow, basically a lot of his post 2006 music. Gonna assume it’s regular weed usage :lolbron:
I made a whole thread on here talking about Styles P voice changing post 2005-2006

By the time Super Gangster Extraordinary Gentlemen came, Styles sounded like he sucked on helium before hopping in the booth
 

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Dope read!


Had forgotten about this Sony e-mail, I'm sure now I had read about this on forums back then



"THE FORTHCOMING NAS ALBUM IS ON HOLD AT THE MOMENT, HERE'S THE LATEST PLAN" - "Nas wants to release 'Death of Escobar' first with 'Stillmatic' to follow. 'Death of Escobar' is the bootleg/sessions project. The project will feature the tracklisting below plus three new tracks. This tracklisting could and probably will change. The three new tracks will explain Escobar's death." "No music has been discussed or recorded for 'Stillmatic'. In a best case scenario the album will be released June 20 01".
 

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Loved reading this 2001 forum as well, they were basically saying the same shyt we're still saying now over 20 years later 🤣


Brings back memories of the Nas bbs on sonymusic forums, that period was absolutely insane
 

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Dope read!


Had forgotten about this Sony e-mail, I'm sure now I had read about this on forums back then



"THE FORTHCOMING NAS ALBUM IS ON HOLD AT THE MOMENT, HERE'S THE LATEST PLAN" - "Nas wants to release 'Death of Escobar' first with 'Stillmatic' to follow. 'Death of Escobar' is the bootleg/sessions project. The project will feature the tracklisting below plus three new tracks. This tracklisting could and probably will change. The three new tracks will explain Escobar's death." "No music has been discussed or recorded for 'Stillmatic'. In a best case scenario the album will be released June 20 01".
dope
 

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I remember working at a new and used cd store around this time period. We used to pay like $4 cash for a cd or $6 for store credit.

This was definitely the period where he ‘lost’ the people and wasn’t ‘hot’ in the streets.

I Am and especially Nastramdamus were 2 of the most exchanged albums to the point we wouldn’t pay $ for anymore copies.

Obviously he bounced back with Stillmatic. The only people who were selling their Stillmatic cds were desperate bums trying to scrounge a nickel bag.
 
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I remember working at a new and used cd store around this time period. We used to pay like $4 cash for a cd or $6 for store credit.

This was definitely the period where he ‘lost’ the people and wasn’t ‘hot’ in the streets.

I Am and especially Nastramdamus were 2 of the most exchanged albums to the point we wouldn’t pay $ for anymore copies.

Obviously he bounced back with Stillmatic. The only people who were selling their Stillmatic cds were desperate bums trying to scrounge a nickel bag.

I disagree with the I Am take...Nastradamus for sure tho

I Am was received well in real time

Nas mistake was not coming back quickly to right the wrong of Nastradamus

For example, Vol 3 was a failure by Jigga's standards and he had a new single for his next album a mere 8 months after Vol 3 was released...Nas waited 2 years to drop Stillmatic...granted he dropped QB's Finest but that was a collaborative album
 

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I Am was received well in real time
People bought it and exchanged it. That was kind of how we judged what was popping in our market (DC).

That album used to live in the $5 section.

This was also the time period when I first became aware of how much southern rap was popping. Three 6 Mafia, UGK & Scarface were top movers. Nobody ever traded their stuff in.

Some of this is a function of those old Columbia house cd deals too.
 
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(MTV article from Dec 13, 2001...5 days before Stillmatic dropped)


Feud Between Jay-Z, Nas Gets 'Super Ugly'​

Nas hit with another dis track just days before releasing new album, Stillmatic.

With just days to go until the release of his Stillmatic (December 18), Nas' unwavering lyrical feud with Jay-Z has just gotten uglier — "Super Ugly," in fact.

On the heels of Nas' retaliatory "Ether" (see [article id="1451188"]"Nas Disses
Jay-Z, Endless List Of Others On New LP"[/article]), a response to Jigga's "Takeover" on The Blueprint, Jay-Z has dropped
two counterattacks in the past few days. One of them, "Super Ugly,"
debuted Tuesday on New York radio station Hot 97 and finds Jay rhyming on the
beats of Nas' "Got Ur Self A ... " and Dr. Dre's "Bad Intentions."

In the song, Jay-Z not only implies that NBA star Allen Iverson had an
affair with the mother of Nas' daughter, but he also offers lurid details of
his own alleged adventures with her ("Left condoms on your baby
seat," he raps).

Nas said that while Jay may seem to be taking the feud personally, he's not
letting it get to him. " 'Ether,' it's not emotional," he said.
"When I heard ["Takeover"] I thought he was kind of emotional.
I can hear it in voice, he was a little angry. I was like, 'Wow, he's really
touchy when it comes to me.' He says he's doing well in his records, he seems
to be having a good time. I'm a stone in his shoe and a thorn in his
side."

The MC has an idea about why Jay is so hostile toward him. "The
animosity thing has always been about somebody wanting to be the king of New
York," Nas said. "Me, myself, never wanted that crown. That crown's
a big responsibility, ask [New York Mayor Rudolph] Giuliani. Notorious B.I.G.
was the king of New York, of rap, and he never got so much hate. Jay-Z wants
the crown so bad he would step on anybody to get it. ... He said on his album
if he's not better than Big, he's the closest one, which I felt was the wrong
thing to say."

"We supported Biggie," he added. "There was jealousy, of
course. But overall, New York supported Biggie. Nowadays you've got brothers
not liking [Jay] because they see he's not pure about what he's supposed to
be doing. It's not about saying you're better than Biggie when Biggie's in
the ground. It's not about saying you're the king of New York. It's about
making history with rap music and letting the people crown you king."

On Stillmatic, Nas also sends a shot at former friend Prodigy of Mobb
Deep with the song "Destroy and Rebuild," which is a call to
eliminate the so-called weak links that represent his native Queensbridge
housing projects.

"I would never disrespect my 'hood, and I can't stand to see somebody
else make my 'hood look like something it ain't," Nas vented. "In
'95, I read an article where Prodigy said he 'Didn't understand what Nas is
talking about.' I ignored that. Years down the line I noticed his ego. And
when you're talking hardcore stuff — not telling you to talk gangsta and
live it — you can't be looked at as a coward.

"Recently I was listening to a [DJ] Kay Slay mixtape, and Prodigy was
on there with a dude from around my way, and [the] dude was talking dirty
about me. Then [Prodigy] was on a song with Cormega where Cormega was talking greasy about me. So I said, 'Man this is about cleaning up house.' "

Stillmatic's "One Mic" finds Nas relieving stress. On the
track, he spews his most fervent rhymes since 1999's "Hate Me Now."
"Jay-Z messin' with my baby's mother? Even though we not still together,
I'm like, 'What?' " he lamented.

"I'm hearing Steve Stoute, my former manager, is hanging with Jay-Z.
Jay-Z is shouting out Trackmasters, my former crew, my clique. Everything
flipped. Outside of that, I'm trying to build my company, Ill Will Records,
writing my films and things I wanna do outside of rap. ... Everything sort of
piled up on me. I started getting midlife crisis. I started feeling it. All I
need is one mic. I didn't need nothing else in this world. The mic was
everything to me."
 
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I disagree with the I Am take...Nastradamus for sure tho

I Am was received well in real time

Nas mistake was not coming back quickly to right the wrong of Nastradamus

For example, Vol 3 was a failure by Jigga's standards and he had a new single for his next album a mere 8 months after Vol 3 was released...Nas waited 2 years to drop Stillmatic...granted he dropped QB's Finest but that was a collaborative album

Lets not forget the man’s mother was dying of breast cancer during this period. Its not like he took two years off for the hell of it
 

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Lets not forget the man’s mother was dying of breast cancer during this period. Its not like he took two years off for the hell of it

Again, disagree...he spent most of the year 2000 working on the QB Finest album
 
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