9/26 PBC on SHO PPV: Jermell Charlo vs Jeison Rosario / Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko

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Harrison is a slick boxer, isnt Rosario more some come forward? Imo thats taylor made for charlo.
Im a casual though so what do i know

Rosario is a boxer-puncher. He does come forward, but he also knows how to box

Charlo's game relies on mostly throwing bombs. Can't do that when a dude is bigger than you with a granite chin
 

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ShowTime really got the Build up game on lock :wow:

Someone hit me with a proxy download of this? they aint letting me watch it in my country :mjcry:


Harrison is a slick boxer, isnt Rosario more some come forward? Imo thats taylor made for charlo.
Im a casual though so what do i know
dont sleep, the man can fight. He aint some random slugger who got lucky. Got back and watch his fights
 

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On another note: This being a PPV is a great example of how boxing shoots itself in the foot.
Great card... that unfortunately only the hardcores will see.
Wondering why is that... Showtime too poor to pay these guys unless it’s PPV? How much money are we talking about here anyway?

The UFC card this weekend supposed to be big too so I’m guessing that will take additional viewers from Showtime.

It’s a pity, man... this card on regular Showtime could do big numbers. For boxing fans it will worth it (imo) but for casuals... :patrice:
It’s a silly situation because the Charlos are exciting, marketable guys and Showtime is promoting them a lot to get in them PPV buys but being on PPV will probably hinder them in crossing over at this stage, basically no new fans will see them unless they score KOs that go viral or something.

I like how Loma vs Lopez won’t be a PPV, that’s how it should be done imo but I guess for now ESPN can afford that (only with Loma throwing a portion if his original purse to Lopez :mjlol:) and Showtime can’t? They could have put this maybe on regular FOX too? I guess they could afford it. But not sure I don’t see in their walletts.

I’m all for fighters being financially safe too but maybe the purses just got too high in the last few years resulting in cases like this.
 

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On another note: This being a PPV is a great example of how boxing shoots itself in the foot.
Great card... that unfortunately only the hardcores will see.
Wondering why is that... Showtime too poor to pay these guys unless it’s PPV? How much money are we talking about here anyway?

The UFC card this weekend supposed to be big too so I’m guessing that will take additional viewers from Showtime.

It’s a pity, man... this card on regular Showtime could do big numbers. For boxing fans it will worth it (imo) but for casuals... :patrice:
It’s a silly situation because the Charlos are exciting, marketable guys and Showtime is promoting them a lot to get in them PPV buys but being on PPV will probably hinder them in crossing over at this stage, basically no new fans will see them unless they score KOs that go viral or something.

I like how Loma vs Lopez won’t be a PPV, that’s how it should be done imo but I guess for now ESPN can afford that (only with Loma throwing a portion if his original purse to Lopez :mjlol:) and Showtime can’t? They could have put this maybe on regular FOX too? I guess they could afford it. But not sure I don’t see in their walletts.

I’m all for fighters being financially safe too but maybe the purses just got too high in the last few years resulting in cases like this.

it's going to be interesting...i didnt have an issue with this card because its loaded...and im a hardcore..prolly should have lowered the price a little

the only one i dont believe its PPV worthy is tank and LSC...they can miss me with that one lol
 

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it's going to be interesting...i didnt have an issue with this card because its loaded...and im a hardcore..prolly should have lowered the price a little

the only one i dont believe its PPV worthy is tank and LSC...they can miss me with that one lol

yeah that’s what I’m talking about. It might worth it for hardcore fans who know these fighters but how they expect to build these guys further if they put them behind a 75$ paywall? I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see that many casuals tuning in, not on PPV at least.

purses were inflated by both PBC and DAZN and I’m not sure how sustainable it is. Usyk vs Chisora will be P4P in the UK too with Whyte vs Povetkin doing bad numbers before. If any half decent cards will be put on PPV cause networks can’t pay for the inflated purses otherwise how they expect to gain new fans...? But none of the promoters will lower the purses either cause they would be in a competitive disadvantage then. It would only work if all the big promoters would lower the purses the same time which is unrealistic. But then are we heading in the way of the sport becoming even more niche?
It’s troubling
 

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Charlo-Derevyanchenko, Charlo-Rosario: Judges, Refs For Fights
By Keith Idec

Published On Wed Sep 23, 2020, 06:39 PM EST

UNCASVILLE, Connecticut – Veteran New Jersey judge Steve Weisfeld will work both title fights involving the Charlo twins in their pay-per-view debuts Saturday night.

BoxingScene.com has been informed that Weisfeld, who is widely viewed as one of boxing’s best judges, has been assigned to score the Jermall Charlo-Sergiy Derevyanchenko middleweight title fight, as well as the 154-pound championship unification bout between Jermell Charlo and Jeison Rosario. Nevada’s Tim Cheatham and Oklahoma’s David Sutherland also have been assigned to judge Charlo-Derevyanchenko, a 12-round fight for Charlo’s WBC middleweight title.

Cheatham is generally regarded as a consistently accurate judge as well.

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In the biggest fight Sutherland judged recently, he scored Mikey Garcia just a one-point winner over Jessie Vargas (114-113) in their 12-rounder February 29 in Frisco, Texas. The two other judges – Cathy Leonard and Steve Morrow – each scored that fight 116-111 for Garcia.

Sutherland has judged a fight apiece involving Derevyanchenko and Charlo, too.

He had Derevyanchenko ahead, 109-100, before he stopped Tureano Johnson in the 12th round in August 2017. Sutherland later scored Jermall Charlo a 119-109 victor versus Brandon Adams in June 2019.

Both of those scores were in line with how the other judges saw those fights.

New Jersey’s Harvey Dock, who also ranks as one of the sport’s top officials, will be the referee for the Charlo-Derevyanchenko and Charlo-Rosario bouts.

Connecticut’s Glenn Feldman and New York’s John McKaie will join Weisfeld to comprise the judging panel for the Charlo-Rosario fight.

Like McKaie, Feldman is a respected judge, though he did score Rolando Romero a 116-112 winner against Jackson Marinez in their WBA interim lightweight title fight August 15 at Mohegan Sun Arena. Judges Frank Lombardi (118-110) and Don Trella (115-113) also scored that fight for Romero, whose 12-round, unanimous-decision victory caused controversy.

Houston’s Jermall Charlo (30-0, 22 KOs) and Ukraine’s Derevyanchenko (13-2, 10 KOs) will be the main event of Showtime Pay-Per-View’s first three-bout block Saturday night (7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT). Houston’s Jermell Charlo (33-1, 17 KOs) and the Dominican Republic’s Rosario (20-1-1, 14 KOs) will fight for Charlo’s WBC and Rosario’s IBF and WBA 154-pound championships in the main event of Showtime’s second three-fight card, which will begin following a 30-minute intermission after the Charlo-Derevyanchenko fight.

The entire six-fight event can be purchased for $74.95.
 
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