8/21 PBC on FOX PPV: Really didn't expect this: Manny Pacquiao vs Yordenis Ugas (Spence OUT)

[FreedMind]

Spence is apparently on the latest PBC podcast, gonna give it a listen now.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Spence will most def win the jab battle but I’m going to suspect that are going to be his best only good punches. Kind of like GGG/Canelo. How Canelo speed mostly neutralized GGG other punches.


I think Pac advantage is he has seen boxers like Spence in a sense but Spence has never came across a boxer like Pac ever. Plus Spence isn’t really a counter puncher and he don’t have one punch KO power at that level. It going to be a great fight regardless .

Just waiting to see if he can pull a Duran.

Spence SHOULD win the jab battle but Pac may close the gap explosively. Each will be battling for position.

Historically, youth has trumped experience at the elite level the majority of the time in boxing. On paper, Pac is Spence's best opponent. On paper, Spence is not Pac's best opponent. Having said that, Spence is favored and should be based on his advantageous variables of height, reach, size and age. But if Pacquiao pulls of the upset...he's the greatest. Of ALL times.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Spence SHOULD win the jab battle but Pac may close the gap explosively. Each will be battling for position.

Historically, youth has trumped experience at the elite level the majority of the time in boxing. On paper, Pac is Spence's best opponent. On paper, Spence is not Pac's best opponent. Having said that, Spence is favored and should be based on his advantageous variables of height, reach, size and age. But if Pacquiao pulls of the upset...he's the greatest. Of ALL times.

Not sure about Pac being Spence's best opponent
Depending what you think of how much the GGG fight took out of Brook, he could have been a tougher opponent, also Porter. None of them is close to a prime Pac of course but even though the Thurman win was nice this is far from the prime Pac and he's coming off 2 years of layoff at the age of 42, while Porter and arguably Brook were in their primes.

Nevertheless this will be the biggest fight Spence has ever been involved in that's for sure and one of if not the hardest opponent in his career.
I think it goes 12 and Spence wins a clear but competitive fight, 116-112 or so... His style normally isn't bad for Pac but then against we're talking about prime Pac, idk how the 42 years old version gonna weather the pace Spence usually keeps, banal but if he stops Pac that likely will be a late stoppage when Pac is already spent.

 

[R=G]

I think this fight mainly hinges on whether or not Manny is finally
I think Prime Manny or even relatively prime Manny (7-8 yrs ago) beats Spence easy
42 yr old Manny coming off multi year lay off tho . If Spence can't win this convincingly or even worse loses shyt will be funny in the light

I don't think prime manny stand a chance against Spence..lol. He would leap into something at Spence at any point.

 

[R=G]

Spence will most def win the jab battle but I’m going to suspect that are going to be his best only good punches. Kind of like GGG/Canelo. How Canelo speed mostly neutralized GGG other punches.


I think Pac advantage is he has seen boxers like Spence in a sense but Spence has never came across a boxer like Pac ever. Plus Spence isn’t really a counter puncher and he don’t have one punch KO power at that level. It going to be a great fight regardless .

Just waiting to see if he can pull a Duran.

Nah..he's gonna connect on the inside inside and time Manny mid rounds...

 

[reservoirdogs]

I don't think prime manny stand a chance against Spence..lol. He would leap into something at Spence at any point.

 

[R=G]

Easily. People can learn on Spence in the next few years..Manny, Crawford, Canelo all on deck.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Easily. People can learn on Spence in the next few years..Manny, Crawford, Canelo all on deck.

I think highly of Spence's ability but even with that I think you overrate him. It's not like we haven't seen him already struggling with Porter. Spence is an elite guy in this era but not a prime Mayweather or Pac like creme de la creme fighter who just makes world class fighters look like they don't belong. Nobody hits that status out of the current era imo.
Besides, Spence isn't a one punch KO artist, he usually wins by putting on a beating on the opponent and breaks him down with a few exceptions but the only top guy he stopped was actually Brook. Pac got blanked by JMM on their 4th fight but JMM was one of the best counter-punchers and even for him it took 4 fights to finally time Pac like that.

 

[R=G]

I think highly of Spence's ability but even with that I think you overrate him. It's not like we haven't seen him already struggling with Porter. Spence is an elite guy in this era but not a prime Mayweather or Pac like creme de la creme fighter who just makes world class fighters look like they don't belong. Nobody hits that status out of the current era imo.
Besides, Spence isn't a one punch KO artist, he usually wins by putting on a beating on the opponent and breaks him down with a few exceptions but the only top guy he stopped was actually Brook. Pac got blanked by JMM on their 4th fight but JMM was one of the best counter-punchers and even for him it took 4 fights to finally time Pac like that.

Ok..we seen Floyd struggle with Madiana and Castillo..still won. Saw Canelo struggle with Lara and GGG..people claim he won those fights. Manny got beat by Morales and Marquez...CLEAN. Spence keeps finding ways to win and against different styles. Manny won against Thurman but barely. Spence is a elite guy in any era...Hearns and Lenoard would give anyone fits but Spence is on a run right now that will cement him in history.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I been keeping my mouth shut on this because I can't be objective about Spence apparently, but man that southpaw jab is gonna cause Manny all types of problems which is why I think Freddy Roach is trying to get in Spence's head. The angles that Pac was eating Thurman up with will not be there against Spence, because if he tries he's gonna have a jab in his face as soon as he feints. This isn't be being a 'stan' that is simple boxing, a lot of Pac's style is due to how unorthodox it is and the angles he normally gets against orthodox fighters because he fights out of a southpaw stance.

You can say Spence struggled against Porters footwork, really Spence had trouble with the fact Porter was the first person he had fought who was almost as physically strong as him so his normal head and body control style wasn't as effective, Pac doesn't have strength going for him to offset that. Idk bro I think it's gonna be a lot of juelzing in here in two weeks once people actually sees how I'm fairly sure this fight is gonna play out.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I think highly of Spence's ability but even with that I think you overrate him. It's not like we haven't seen him already struggling with Porter. Spence is an elite guy in this era but not a prime Mayweather or Pac like creme de la creme fighter who just makes world class fighters look like they don't belong. Nobody hits that status out of the current era imo.
Besides, Spence isn't a one punch KO artist, he usually wins by putting on a beating on the opponent and breaks him down with a few exceptions but the only top guy he stopped was actually Brook. Pac got blanked by JMM on their 4th fight but JMM was one of the best counter-punchers and even for him it took 4 fights to finally time Pac like that.

Spence is very overrated.. so overrated to the point that they overrated people he beats. He's fortunate to be in an era where people consider Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter elite top 5 welterweights.. you got people in here that thinks he whips Canelo right now.. If he aint overrated I don't know who is...
If Spence is anything nikkas hype him to be he shouldn't have no issue whatsoever with a 45 yr old Jeff Horn leftover

 

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[King P]

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

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Pacquiao vs. Ugas Set For August 21 - Spence Withdraws With Eye Injury

 

[King P]