7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

[malbaker86]

Again nikka, this isn't Stan wars coming from me. I never hated on Bud, just thought he wasn't better than Errol. That was proven wrong. But my post history since 2012 will tell you I always had respect for Bud and said he was great. This WWE fanboy shyt y'all doing in here has got to stop; it makes this forum unbearable. The facts are bud will have to fight some really good fighters at 154 to become undisputed, including Tim Tzyzu.

If I was Bud, I'd place a call to Spence and let em know...."hold off on the rematch and lemme go snatch this belt from Tim Tzyzu in December/January, fight Charlo for the other 3 belts later in 2024, and we can fight come 2025 and fight for undisputed at 154. By then you can go have two intro fights to 154 and see how your body holding up before we run it back". It's a win/win for everyone involved

 

[Apollo Creed]

If I was Bud, I'd place a call to Spence and let em know...."hold off on the rematch and lemme go snatch this belt from Tim Tzyzu in December/January, fight Charlo for the other 3 belts later in 2024, and we can fight come 2025 and fight for undisputed at 154. By then you can go have two intro fights to 154 and see how your body holding up before we run it back". It's a win/win for everyone involved

yeah thats the path I felt made most since especially since Bud will be 36 going on 37 at the time. Errol needs to rest this year Jan come back with a light touch Spring/summer Step up and Fall Winter be in title contention or if Bud undisputed this serve as Buds retirement match.

 

[NormanConnors]

But I can give you valid reasons why Spence was overrated and a hypejob.. the fact that people like you were in such shock about what Bud did to Spence is proof of it.. Same people upset about what I'm saying had no problem with people shytting on Bud's resume, downplaying all his opponents, or making excuses for why he looked better against all like opponents with Errol.

Overrated and hype job is an extreme, point blank. Just because someone lost doesn't prove that. If Spence lost to a bum then you would have a point.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Overrated and hype job is an extreme, point blank. Just because someone lost doesn't prove that. If Spence lost to a bum then you would have a point.

these weirdos delusion/hate for all things PBC is why nikkas have been roasting these lames all these years. This is them trying to take their victory lap. Most of us are fairly rational people all jokes aside, but with the way these dudes act which is even contradictory to the things the man they claim to support say it shows you what this is all about.

 

[NormanConnors]

That's some whole other shyt. nikkas that lose a fight gonna get clowned. It's been that way throughout history, especially among black folks. Spence ain't no different. That was for sure gonna happen if Crawford lost too, as there was a much larger contingency of nikkas supporting Spence and clowning the fukk out of Crawford before the fight. I would imagine that neither one of them were under the impression that any of these folks were their real "friends".

If happened to Pacman too when he got flatlined by Marquez, I'm not disputing reactions memes and all that. I'm disputing fake shyt.

 

[UpAndComing]

Again nikka, this isn't Stan wars coming from me. I never hated on Bud, just thought he wasn't better than Errol. That was proven wrong. But my post history since 2012 will tell you I always had respect for Bud and said he was great. This WWE fanboy shyt y'all doing in here has got to stop; it makes this forum unbearable. The facts are bud will have to fight some really good fighters at 154 to become undisputed, including Tim Tzyzu.

Again with the slick commenting. What the hell does that even mean, of course to become Undisputed in any weight class you will need to fight a good fighter
Tim Tszyu was Charlo's mandatory FOR OVER A YEAR. If Charlo did not take this goofy Canelo fight it would have been Charlo vs Tszyu in September, and winner faces Crawford next year

How come ya'll are not calling for a Tszyu vs Charlo fight? How convenient

 

[NormanConnors]

these weirdos delusion/hate for all things PBC is why nikkas have been roasting these lames all these years. This is them trying to take their victory lap. Most of us are fairly rational people all jokes aside, but with the way these dudes act which is even contradictory to the things the man they claim to support say it shows you what this is all about.

Yeah cats big mad are now big happy, the hate for PBC goes all of the way back to Floyd/Haymon connection, it's all extended . It's to the point now where anyone slightly outside of their agreements is looked at as a Crawford hater when that's not even the case. I have a ton of post rocking with Crawford.

 

[Black_Jesus]

How does winning 3 of 4 titles at 147 make him an overrated hypejob? You can't be a hype job with multiple world championships. God you guys really say dumb fukking shyt every single day man. I mean, do you think critically about what you're saying, instead of acting like a teenage fanboy?

Well allow me to break it down
How is he overrated you ask??

This very forum "The Ring" voted Errol Spence #2 p4p above Crawford who won the LINEAL at 135.. 5 of 5 titles/LINEAL at 140.. a title his 1st fight at 147 by stoppage over a undefeated guy who just beat Pac.. Errol won 3 belts.. Crawford won 8 belts throughout 3 divisions.. How he not overrated??

Yall voted Errol over 4 division champ Inoue.. yall voted him over a 3 belt champ Teofimo Lopez who had just beat a top 3 p4p Lomachenko

How is Errol a hypejob? Because of how PBC marketed him and the rest of their welterweights (Thurman/Danny/Porter) as either some future HOF talents or ATGs.. Some of you idiots even think Spence beats Canelo... Crawford exposed the hype and made Errol look like he didn't even belong in the ring with him

 

[Black_Jesus]

Overrated and hype job is an extreme, point blank. Just because someone lost doesn't prove that. If Spence lost to a bum then you would have a point.

The fight wasn't even competitve after a round.. it was more than just simply taking an L.. Spence was Bud easiest fight so if you think I'm being extreme

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yeah cats big mad are now big happy, the hate for PBC goes all of the way back to Floyd/Haymon connection, it's all extended . It's to the point now where anyone slightly outside of their agreements is looked at as a Crawford hater when that's not even the case. I have a ton of post rocking with Crawford.

yeah lmfao. I stir shyt up here but my main knock with Bud was resigning to TR, to me that showed signs of being complacent. The wild thing is in Buds Hot97 interview he gave Errol 1000X props and said Errol kept his word about getting all the belts, yet these remedial nikkas still tryna use "easy route" as meaning ducking when it was literally about politics.

With these nikkas logic Errol and Bud wouldn't have gotten the career paydays they got now without Errol laying the ground work.

calling Errol A bum is literally discrediting Buds resume even more and this win. When folks talk ATG and look at all the "Errol a bum" shyt one can counter argue how is Bud an All time great if everyone he beat was a bum or overhyped

 

[JamesJabdi]

I highly doubt Charlo vs Bud is going to happen. for the following reasons:

1. Charlo might not come back down to 154.
2. If anybody fights Charlo at 154 then its going to be PBC's own fighter Tim Tszyu first.
3. If Charlo beats Canelo and it does more PPV buys then Crawford vs Spence then there is no way Charlo will make the same sacrifices as Errol did to make fight happen...he is the clear A-side then.
4. Bud only has a 2 fight deal with PBC and both of them are about fighting Errol

I don't understand why Crawford fanboys are OK with him fighting Avaneysan and going double ......but when guys like Tim Tszyu or Boots Ennis get brought up they act like they are some scrubs.

 

[malbaker86]

Well allow me to break it down
How is he overrated you ask??

This very forum "The Ring" voted Errol Spence #2 p4p above Crawford who won the LINEAL at 135.. 5 of 5 titles/LINEAL at 140.. a title his 1st fight at 147 by stoppage over a undefeated guy who just beat Pac.. Errol won 3 belts.. Crawford won 8 belts throughout 3 divisions.. How he not overrated??

Yall voted Errol over 4 division champ Inoue.. yall voted him over a 3 belt champ Teofimo Lopez who had just beat a top 3 p4p Lomachenko

How is Errol a hypejob? Because of how PBC marketed him and the rest of their welterweights (Thurman/Danny/Porter) as either some future HOF talents or ATGs.. Some of you idiots even think Spence beats Canelo... Crawford exposed the hype and made Errol look like he didn't even belong in the ring with him

well then you're diminishing Crawford's win (and resume) over Errol then, no?

 

[CBalla]

errolsexuals still in here chirping and juelzing i see

 

[NormanConnors]

yeah lmfao. I stir shyt up here but my main knock with Bud was resigning to TR, to me that showed signs of being complacent. The wild thing is in Buds Hot97 interview he gave Errol 1000X props and said Errol kept his word about getting all the belts, yet these remedial nikkas still tryna use "easy route" as meaning ducking when it was literally about politics.

With these nikkas logic Errol and Bud wouldn't have gotten the career paydays they got now without Errol laying the ground work.

calling Errol A bum is literally discrediting Buds resume even more and this win. When folks talk ATG and look at all the "Errol a bum" shyt one can counter argue how is Bud an All time great if everyone he beat was a bum or overhyped

Exactly

 

[NormanConnors]

The fight wasn't even competitve after a round.. it was more than just simply taking an L.. Spence was Bud easiest fight so if you think I'm being extreme

Bud said himself it was a difficult fight just due to the Preparation taken, special attention was paid to Spence. If he was overrated/or a hype job none that would not have happened. They might as well have created a dissertation with the way they dissected dude. Gameplans are made for a reason.