7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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If PBC allowed Spence to enter the ring with any type of neurological disorder they would be opening themselves up to lawsuits out the ass. I'm sure he was thoroughly tested after his accident. Any professional athlete would be.


But you do agree that Spence shouldn't do the rematch in December ??? :jbhmm:
 

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Now what does that say about Spence opposition at 147?

This is why I always said Crawford had a better "resume". He has fought a way more varied of fighters and styles that have tested him and prepared him for who he is now...Unlike Spence who fought fighters tailored to his style that won't test him

Crawford on the other hand:

- Has fought better southpaws than Spence has fought (Felix Diaz, Indongo)
- Has fought power punchers (Prescott, Dulorme, Mean Machine)
- Has fought fighters with very fast hand and foot speed(Gamboa, Hank Lundy, Amir Khan, Porter)
- Has fought counter punchers (Benevidez, Mean Machine)
- Has fought boxers/movers (Postol, Kell Brook, Amir Khan)
- Has fought come-forward brawler fighters (Jeff Horn, Avanesyan)


When they say "he didn't fight anybody", it just means they are not American or have not been on Breakfast Club or Sway in the Morning
The reason why Spence "looked off" because he was completely shocked at the type of style that Crawford had. Shout of to Al Haymon for his amazing matchmaking of Spence's opponents
 

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But you do agree that Spence shouldn't do the rematch in December ??? :jbhmm:
Hell nah. When you endure a beating like that you shouldn't even step foot in a boxing ring for 6 months. When guys get slept it's automatic 6 month suspension. And this was way worse than that.

On top of that it wasn't close. Bud proved he's light years ahead of Spence in every category. Spence is not in his league. Them two should never share the ring ever again.
 

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This is why I always said Crawford had a better "resume". He has fought a way more varied of fighters and styles that have tested him and prepared him for who he is now...Unlike Spence who fought fighters tailored to his style that won't test him

Crawford on the other hand:

- Has fought better southpaws than Spence has fought (Felix Diaz, Indongo)
- Has fought power punchers (Prescott, Dulorme, Mean Machine)
- Has fought fighters with very fast hand and foot speed(Gamboa, Hank Lundy, Amir Khan, Porter)
- Has fought counter punchers (Benevidez, Mean Machine)
- Has fought boxers/movers (Postol, Kell Brook, Amir Khan)
- Has fought come-forward brawler fighters (Jeff Horn, Avanesyan)


When they say "he didn't fight anybody", it just means they are not American or have not been on Breakfast Club or Sway in the Morning
The reason why Spence "looked off" because he was completely shocked at the type of style that Crawford had. Shout of to Al Haymon for his amazing matchmaking of Spence's opponents
Bomac and the other dude in buds camp kept saying Spence was built up by the PBC hype train and he wasn't who everyone thought. I thought they were just trash talking. But after what happened they may be right.

The best guy Spence fought was a damaged Kell brook. He Didn't really have much experience with various styles. But this is what happens when you freeze other companies out and only make in house fights. You fukk up a fighters development.
 

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I definitely think the general consensus is that many fans like Errol Spence but dislike the fanbase.

The thing is...the way Crawford acted to not do the fight last year to fight a nobody was pitiful. He did not go out of his way to fight Ugas and Thurman or Ennis when they called him out. He let Arum basically call him a worthless monkey for a whole year. So there was no energy to get behind a black man who chose to act like that. Not in this lifetime...not after everything someone's grandparents have went through. That's more style than substance....Donald Trump type shyt.

Saying all that...he definitely was better prepared and won but in the eyes of certain fighters(Roy Jones, Boots Ennis), just don't seem like it was the Spence they've always seen
 

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This is why I always said Crawford had a better "resume". He has fought a way more varied of fighters and styles that have tested him and prepared him for who he is now...Unlike Spence who fought fighters tailored to his style that won't test him

Crawford on the other hand:

- Has fought better southpaws than Spence has fought (Felix Diaz, Indongo)
- Has fought power punchers (Prescott, Dulorme, Mean Machine)
- Has fought fighters with very fast hand and foot speed(Gamboa, Hank Lundy, Amir Khan, Porter)
- Has fought counter punchers (Benevidez, Mean Machine)
- Has fought boxers/movers (Postol, Kell Brook, Amir Khan)
- Has fought come-forward brawler fighters (Jeff Horn, Avanesyan)


When they say "he didn't fight anybody", it just means they are not American or have not been on Breakfast Club or Sway in the Morning
The reason why Spence "looked off" because he was completely shocked at the type of style that Crawford had. Shout of to Al Haymon for his amazing matchmaking of Spence's opponents
It was genius match making on that side
from lamont Peteron who had no business at 147
to Mikey Garcia, to Porter who people wrote off and was able to make Spence look bad revitalizing his own stock,
to Danny Garcia who can only beat tomatoes cans at 140
to Ugas who managed to decision a 42 yr old Pac that had been inactive for 2 years..

They were all the perfect opponents for Spence to look good against and dupe the fanbase into believing he was some generational ATG talent that was gonna somehow move up and beat Canelo :mjlol: They really believed he was gonna walk through a man that KOd 9-10 straight opponents
 

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I damn near feel Bud was wishing Errol stayed down.

That said Errol took this fight while Al and them told him move on. Errol skipped the thurman fight last yr which in reality him being bigger than tune ups really coulda of given us more data points to see if he was actually ok. The lapse in time betwwen Danny and Ugas are enougj to make you overlook shyt cause won, and preaccident errol was so long ago we forget how he used to talk.

Errol never talked slow, he just was country. Now nikka sluirs and does the punch drunk pauses mid sentence to collect his thought
I think what people are overlooking or assuming is the impact of the first car crash and not the other 2, esp the one where the car was totaled. It's a wonder if this is related to his first car crash and a gradual decline in neurological functioning or if this was related to another car crash.
 

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It was genius match making on that side
from lamont Peteron who had no business at 147
to Mikey Garcia, to Porter who people wrote off and was able to make Spence look bad revitalizing his own stock,
to Danny Garcia who can only beat tomatoes cans at 140
to Ugas who managed to decision a 42 yr old Pac that had been inactive for 2 years..

They were all the perfect opponents for Spence to look good against and dupe the fanbase into believing he was some generational ATG talent that was gonna somehow move up and beat Canelo :mjlol: They really believed he was gonna walk through a man that KOd 9-10 straight opponents
Duped Floyd Mayweather too when he beat him up..lol

I guess Ugas duped the entire world when he beat Crawford twice..when Danny Garcia beat Crawford. Crazy ass nyggas. Better resume? Mean Machine? Jeff Horn? Lol
 

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Bomac and the other dude in buds camp kept saying Spence was built up by the PBC hype train and he wasn't who everyone thought. I thought they were just trash talking. But after what happened they may be right.

The best guy Spence fought was a damaged Kell brook. He Didn't really have much experience with various styles. But this is what happens when you freeze other companies out and only make in house fights. You fukk up a fighters development.
PBC did an awesome job marketing their fighters

they along with youtubers convinced ppl (casuals) that their roster was elite and every other boxing promotion was substandard .They really had some nikkas fooled and when that gets exposed nikkas that have been believing those lies for years have a hard time coming to grasp the truth .we saw it with wilder and now we seeing it with Spence .


im glad I learned boxing before all the smoke ,mirrors and fraudulent behavior
 
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