50 Cent or Kanye West?

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Kanye West. Musically and sensibility wise he appeals to me more than 50 does. He's made overall creative choices I would have made if I were in his position.
 

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favorite Ye album? What are your go-to Kanye records?
Love the first 3 equally man. I'd hate to play favorites. (LONG ASS RANDOM POST AHEAD, beware:whoa:)

In '04 - I was in 11th grade. Remember through the wire playing on the bus after school. I think the Kanye issue of complex came out that year, with the silver satin jacket and the pink g-shock watch. or he had on a polo sweater i don't remember. Anyway I remember seeing that shyt in Tower Records years before they closed down. I remember SHOW magazine's first 2 issues in tower records that year(shoulda bought those:wow::pachaha:). Alot of unneccesary shyt but my point is all in all it was a good year and alot of records came out that year I still fukk with to this day — Madvillainy, R&G the masterpiece; T.I. - Urban Legend; Usher -Confessions — but College Dropout is the soundtrack for that year of my life. Just an overall good feeling. I especially love, well fukk it breathe in breathe out is the one song i don't dislike but it's not one i would mention as a reason to listen to the album. I love workout plan esp the video but I tend to skip that after listening a little from the intro to the second verse. I fukk with it though. I be in a hurry to get to hear jamie foxx's intro to slow jamz cause that's a classic song for that year. Kanye had hits on that album man. i love everything else 5/5 status (i hate number ratings lol)

'05-'06 - graduated HS and 1st year of college. Overall melancholy, lone wolf kinda year. Late registration managed to embody that year for me,with the late nights on the computer (browsing AHH/ the IC trolling like young nikkas do now on thecoli), the wooden cathedrals and registration halls of the mostly cac campus i ended up leaving after the first year. well late registration and TI - King, Bun B - get throwed, Ghostface - Fishscale, Little Brother - The Minstrel Show, and on a lesser note chris brown & young jeezy's debuts, juelz' album, purple ribbon all stars kryptonite, etc blah blah best of times worst of times sorta deal. whatever. I guess after a while albums are like a time machine and listening to Late registration takes you back to those years and the moods you were in. I noticed you @SirBiatch tend to gravitate to dark , spaced out , neoney, trance-y, Synth-y, chillin-in-a-dark-corner-of-the-frat-party-of-the-year-eyes-half-closed-smokin-loud-schemin-on-the-baddest-bytches-in-the-room type beats,:pachaha: so you tend to gravitate towards and defend/rationalize the music of artists who are at home with that sound, like A$AP Rocky and Lil' B. With me I love beats with a japanese sorta relative oddness and a boom-bap kick(touch the sky), Woodgrain soul (drive soul, on my way home, roses,) songs with a crystal blue, wave-ish melancholy/ascension kinda vibe (i pulled that description outta my ass just to frame an idea i have a better time visualizing than putting into words lmao,)(Diamonds from Sierra Leone remix ft Jay's perfect verse, Gone ft. Cam and Kanye's perfect verses), some with heavenly, golden, euphoric emotion (à la skee lo's "i wish") (We major), and beats with that starry, saccharine, everything's-gonna-be-allright vibe (Celebration (probably my favorite song on the album and the verses have the same everything's gonna be alright vibe and complement the beat perfectly), late ). Most songs, lyrics and beats actually share multiple vibes as the album is cohesive, but the bolded in color are my favorite songs on the album. The album just feels like me and that feeling never lets up (overall the album has that :mjcry: feeling, except "we major", which is :ahh:) so outside of minstrel show and fishscale it's my favorite of '05-'06.

2007 - Another loner, "whatever" sorta year (my entire adult life has been like that now that I think about it,). Actually it was a shytty ass fukkin year but anyway. I began to believe fully in reincarnation recent years, but I always believed i musta been japanese in a past life, and the song and video for stronger hit that note for me around that time- as well as the governing murakami /overall tokyo aesthetic for the album. I guess this album also feels like me and resonated even though the year wasn't noteworthy event wise for the album to be a soundtrack to it per se. It still takes me back to those years though as with every album I loved whose release and promotional run I have live memories of. It's a flawless album, minus Good Night (which isn't even on the version I bought.) I never listened to that song fully actually, I'm gonna listen to it all the way through for the first time today just for writing this shyt:pachaha:. It doesn't ruin the cohesiveness of the album sonically but it feels like an annoying tagalong just cause It wasn't an original part of the listening experience, so I cut that shyt off whenever I hear mos def's struggle soundingish opening vocals. It felt like a semi-continuation (not really) of the vibe lupe gave me with Food & Liquor, kind of an augmentation. Whether he was jacking lupe's swag is another discussion, although i hate that i'm potentially giving kanye haters that ammo. I also identified heavy (and still do) with the feel of the bear diving off into the sky on the album cover, just wanting to go out and do whatever you want to do(naaaaa naa na na wait till I get my money right:ahh:). So yeah, I love this album. I love every song, but good morning fukk it I love every song, especially playing the album through. Looking through the tracklist on itunes I can't pick any one or cluster of songs over others.

Even though the above 3 are my favorites, I loved every other album he's made(i was gonna breakdown why I appreciate each album but fukk this shyt, i got tired of writing, this shyt took me hours to get through). I was execting Good Ass Job, but I guess he went left :manny: only one I missed the hype wave of was My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and that's cause I started seeing heavy illuminati imagery in his shyt and stopped fukking with him around that time cause it clashed with my then beliefs. I still don't fukk with him as much because of that even though my understanding of life is different now from researching african history. Jay Z for the same reason. I came back around a little for both of them. but I still see them as puppets for a higher group of people trying to make sure black people stay mentally asleep, but really it's the whole culture (blah blah i'm rambling)... that's a discussion for a different thread though. But yeah, I fukk with kanye from him making each album be it's own era complete with it's own aesthetic, sonic landscape, and fashion statements, and overall the stuff he talks about (even though it feels pretentious and hypebeasty but fukk it he's described himself as hypebeast-the person once in a vibe interview during the 808 era, so he's self aware), so even though I fukk with 50 and bought his first 2 albums, But those first 2 are the only ones I listenened to the whole way through. I guess he didn't care about the music equaling his antics; kanye had similar fukkery, the passive agressive "only go at safe targets" version of negative press fukkery, but Kanye always made the albums themselves an event from an aesthetic standpoint, whereas with fif the fif'ness(no you me and dupree) wore off for me, and his chorus game is one note but he doesn't seem to realize that which pisses me off. I mean other than that I hate people needing hype to love an album... I think dynamic wise being a rapper is like being a man and the fans are like a female for that reason. Yeah fukk it i'm rambling again. but yeah man, I'd have to pick Kanye over 50 for the above reasons. I just musically fukk with him more overall.:ld:

random pic add cause i'm weird like that...
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I noticed you @SirBiatch tend to gravitate to dark , spaced out , neoney, trance-y, Synth-y, chillin-in-a-dark-corner-of-the-frat-party-of-the-year-eyes-half-closed-smokin-loud-schemin-on-the-baddest-bytches-in-the-room type beats,:pachaha: so you tend to gravitate towards and defend/rationalize the music of artists who are at home with that sound, like A$AP Rocky and Lil' B.

You're 100% right. How did you know?

I definitely have a bias toward the ethereal, dark shyt. "Night time" vibe shyt. Especially schemin on the baddest bytches part. lol. You couldn't be more correct. I'm also a lone wolf. I love hanging with people but I'm perfectly fine alone. Always been this way.

I like a lot of rap that doesn't fit into that category though. After all, Supreme Clientele is probably my favorite rap album ever. And that's not exactly the vibe you described, though it has some similarities. I'd like to think that I can appreciate most things if it's done really well. I have a predisposition to cloud rap but I only check for Lil B and ASAP Rocky. The other cats are trash because it's not done as well.

Anyway, great analysis on your part. I always like reading people's long ass posts describing music they love. That's what we should be doing. There's certain shyt you've said that makes me understand Ye a little more.

I'd rep you but my rep is shot. Too many Lloyd Banks/Fab/Kendrick nuthuggers.
 

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You're 100% right. How did you know?

I definitely have a bias toward the ethereal, dark shyt. "Night time" vibe shyt. Especially schemin on the baddest bytches part. lol. You couldn't be more correct. I'm also a lone wolf. I love hanging with people but I'm perfectly fine alone. Always been this way.

I like a lot of rap that doesn't fit into that category though. After all, Supreme Clientele is probably my favorite rap album ever. And that's not exactly the vibe you described, though it has some similarities. I'd like to think that I can appreciate most things if it's done really well. I have a predisposition to cloud rap but I only check for Lil B and ASAP Rocky. The other cats are trash because it's not done as well.

Anyway, great analysis on your part. I always like reading people's long ass posts describing music they love. That's what we should be doing. There's certain shyt you've said that makes me understand Ye a little more.

I'd rep you but my rep is shot. Too many Lloyd Banks/Fab/Kendrick nuthuggers.
I got a bit of a knack for figuring things out, lol.

I like that kinda music as well even though it isn't my default, so it's no surprise Supreme Clientele is up there, i feel that way about it as well. That, Little brother's first 2, midnight marauders, black on both sides, madvillainy. I know i'm missing key ones. It bes like that.

@ the bolded: yeah man, that's how the site should be but you know how that go...:upsetfavre:
 
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My personal opinion. I was never impressed with 50 on the mic. To me he is not that nice with his bars. Not saying he does not have bangers or some heat. But personally i dont think he is nice as a rapper.

I was more impressed with his brand marketing and that he took the em and Dre co sign and put his nikkas on and took over the rap game for a short bit by hustling his ass off.

:yeshrug:
 

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Kanye's last good album was My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, 50 hasn't had a good project since War Angel LP. Kanye's also more praised due to him taking risks. we haven't gotten a project from 50 that has him testing out anything different. both ain't good these days though.
 
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