5/18 PBC on SHO: Deontay Wilder vs Dominic Breazeale (WBC Heavyweight Title)

[Black_Jesus]

Sold PPVs in the UK Thanks to Fury. (Oh and , also when he was on Amir Khans undercard ) Sold PPVs in the US, thanks to Fury . Wilder has headlined 1 PPV in his 41 fight career, which sold 300k thanks to Fury. Thats quite frankly pathetic, especially considering the following fight (vs Brazeale) his team didnt even bother to put on PPV because they knew no one would pay to see Wilder. Also GTFO - Wilder decided to keep it on premium showtime How dumb does that sound when on one hand he's ducking multiple lifetime highpays offered to fight AJ with you bum squads citing its because he wants to "maximise revenue" etc, but then decides to not put his fight on PPV. He knows he cant draw flies to shyt without Fury or AJ and your thick as shyt if you believe otherwise
Thats just facts

Seeing as AJ is selling 20k tickets in NYC, i think you could say he is a bit of a draw outside of the UK. . . AJ would be getting more than the purse Wilder was offered by DAZN, i think that much is obvious. In addition to that, you best believe AJ would be getting that much or more for a Fury fight. We know Wilder only made @$10million for fighting Fury in Dec. For reference, AJ got $25-30mill for fighting Parker. Whats even more pathetic for Wilder is that Parker got $16million for fighting AJ. . . So more than Wilder has ever made from a single fight in his career. SO you can stop with this notion that WIlder is the attraction in this equation

What do you mean sold ppvs any the US thanks to Fury?? Fury has no drawing power in the states?? If anything Fury the reason the fight ONLY sold 300k because half you fagggs didnt think Fury had a chance.. Wilder is well known in the UK.. Just like it's well known the only reason Fury is even relevant right now is thanks to Wilder pulling him out the crack house and motivating him to get in shape

Prove AJ sold 20k tickets.. I'll wait.. And let's not ignore Eddie Hearn/Matchroom buys up all the tickets before they go on sale to the public..

Also.. You dont know wtf Wilder made vs Fury just like everyone else.. What we DO KNOW.. Is Wilder is being offered more than any purse AJ ever made while they tried to hide AJs purse vs Wilder.. Any other time they proudly announce AJs purse, but when it was for the Wilder fight it's this big secret now

 

[The Ruler 09]

They were gonna discuss the fight after the fury fight, butbthebfight ended in a draw so they persued thebrematch and AJ was put on the back burner


Wilder was offered $40m for the 1st fight and if he wins, they were trying to offer the same flat rate... You dont have a clue what AJ was getting. They refused to reveal that.. Wilder accepted $12 million to fight AJ only if they were guaranteed to fight NEXT.. AJ and Hearn instead opted to fight Povetkin


Who cares what YOU think is a "good deal" for Wilder.. Wilder asked for 50/50.. All we know for a fact is Wilder is now being offered more than AJs highest purse.. while they refused to reveal AJs purse.(wonder why)

If you feel old shyt is irrelevant than dont bring up old shyt.. Those higher offers you're claim was considered "A fair offer" according to Hearns.. So in Hearns own words if this was a fair offer why not make, why didn't they make the fair offer from jump instead of playing games running around claiming Wilder dont deserve a split

Man fukk the DAZN deal.. For the last time.. Its 50/50 or kick rights.. They had the opportunity to make a "fair offer" for Wilder and they squandered it big time.. Now them nikkas is on Wilder's time and will only happen on Wilder's terms

Before you said something different and that it wasn't a genuine intention to make an offer/fight. Now you saying Wilder/his team chose Fury again instead of AJ (rejecting the AJ fight yet again even though it was for all belts and more money) which is true.

Incorrect again, they wanted the Wilder fight, Wilder accepted terms but never signed the contract so the mandatory was called because they didn't do it, a lot of people think they were just delaying as a way to get out of the fight, what happened subsequently with them keep rejecting offers and not taking it makes that a possibility. And Eddie is on record saying it was in line with a 60/40 split, which means we do know what AJ was offered. You don't seem to know any of the actual information even though it's all public record.

That other point you keep saying is just ridiculous and just seems desperate, AJ was gonna make more money than Wilder for the fight, you can twist it however way you want it but it doesn't change the facts.

Not really, Wilder is ducking that's true but they are both in a good position, intact AJ is in a better position because he makes significantly more money, they would both make record purses fighting eachother of course but without fighting eachother AJ earns way way more than Wilder.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Before you said something different and that it wasn't a genuine intention to make an offer/fight. Now you saying Wilder/his team chose Fury again instead of AJ (rejecting the AJ fight yet again even though it was for all belts and more money) which is true.

I didn't say anything different.. I said there was a rematch clause.. and Wilder made it publicly known immediately after the fight that he was persuing a rematch with Fury so.. It was publicly know Wilder wasn't entertaining any offer from Hearn until he was done with Fury..

Incorrect again, they wanted the Wilder fight, Wilder accepted terms but never signed the contract so the mandatory was called because they didn't do it, a lot of people think they were just delaying as a way to get out of the fight, what happened subsequently with them keep rejecting offers and not taking it makes that a possibility. And Eddie is on record saying it was in line with a 60/40 split, which means we do know what AJ was offered. You don't seem to know any of the actual information even though it's all public record.

The mandatory was called because Eddie Hearn ran to the media lying createing the narritave that Wilder was stalling the fight even after Wilder had to wait a week for them just to send a contract.. another week for clarification on the date and venue as well as a few other details.. Wilder and Finkel give Hearn the exact day the contract would be sent back signed which if I remember was the following Friday. All of a sudden because of Hearns crying and lying in the media, the WBA comes out and calls for AJ to sign to fight Povetkin in 24hrs.. Fight didn't get announced until a month later..

That other point you keep saying is just ridiculous and just seems desperate, AJ was gonna make more money than Wilder for the fight, you can twist it however way you want it but it doesn't change the facts.

Prove it then... since you say its facts.. I'll wait

Not really, Wilder is ducking that's true but they are both in a good position, intact AJ is in a better position because he makes significantly more money, they would both make record purses fighting eachother of course but without fighting eachother AJ earns way way more than Wilder.

Wilder not ducking.. Wilder told AJ what he wants.. Now until they accept Wilder demands Wilder will do who is own thing.. AJ can kick rocks..

 

[R=G]

 

[R=G]

Oh yeah @The Ruler 09 @Black_Jesus @patscorpio some kind of deal has been made..its about to be announced next week or something..Wilder is apparently facing Joshua, Fury, and Ortiz in succession
From Discover on Google Deontay Wilder manager reveals next three fights, including two Brits

PLAN OF ATTACK Deontay Wilder’s co-manager Shelly Finkel reveals next three fights will be Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz

The WBC heavyweight champion will have a busy schedule

By Michael Benson

24th May 2019, 5:32 pm

Deontay Wilder will face both Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury within his next three fights, according to co-manager Shelly Finkel.

The WBC heavyweight champion successfully defended his title with a brutal first-round knockout of Dominic Breazeale on Saturday night in New York, and fans are now demanding to know who will be his future opponents.

“That is something we are working on now, hopefully by next week it will be resolved.

“I had dinner the other night with John Skipper [DAZN chairman], we discussed the Joshua fight and I also have been in touch with Top Rank [Tyson Fury’s co-promoters].

“In the next two weeks everything will be done, it will be said publicly what we’re doing and I believe the UK fans will also be happy.”

It had also been reported that, after rematching Ortiz, Wilder is planning to face Adam Kownacki early next year.

Finkel seemingly dispelled this talk, by confirming that the champion’s next three bouts will come against Joshua, Ortiz and Fury – though he did not specify in which order.

“We’re working on that, and those three fighters [Joshua, Fury and Ortiz].

“Deontay will be fighting all of them in a succession which we will hopefully work out in the next couple of weeks.”

 

[Black_Jesus]

Oh yeah @The Ruler 09 @Black_Jesus @patscorpio some kind of deal has been made..its about to be announced next week or something..Wilder is apparently facing Joshua, Fury, and Ortiz in succession
From Discover on Google Deontay Wilder manager reveals next three fights, including two Brits

Wilder doing shyt on his own terms like a boss.. And it ain't shyt anybody can do about it

 

[The Ruler 09]

Oh yeah @The Ruler 09 @Black_Jesus @patscorpio some kind of deal has been made..its about to be announced next week or something..Wilder is apparently facing Joshua, Fury, and Ortiz in succession
From Discover on Google Deontay Wilder manager reveals next three fights, including two Brits

Yeah I made a thread on this, if so this is brilliant news, I just hope the AJ fight is next, as it's important to get that in before the Fury fight cause either could lose that 1. AJ if he's mandated against Usyk also has the potential to lose on points. Have a feeling it will be Ortiz then Fury then AJ though but hope that isn't the case.

 

[patscorpio]

Oh yeah @The Ruler 09 @Black_Jesus @patscorpio some kind of deal has been made..its about to be announced next week or something..Wilder is apparently facing Joshua, Fury, and Ortiz in succession
From Discover on Google Deontay Wilder manager reveals next three fights, including two Brits

I really dont care about this or any speculation for the time being...there is other boxing on that has my attention for the time being

 

[R=G]

Yeah I made a thread on this, if so this is brilliant news, I just hope the AJ fight is next, as it's important to get that in before the Fury fight cause either could lose that 1. AJ if he's mandated against Usyk also has the potential to lose on points. Have a feeling it will be Ortiz then Fury then AJ though but hope that isn't the case.

The demand for Wilder ve Joshua is red hot but so is the Wilder/Fury rematch..there has to be a definitive answer to both. Joshua probably has a rematch clause though.

 

[R=G]

I really dont care about this or any speculation for the time being...there is other boxing on that has my attention for the time being

That's cool..its just not as exciting or must see.

 

[merklman]

What do you mean sold ppvs any the US thanks to Fury?? Fury has no drawing power in the states?? If anything Fury the reason the fight ONLY sold 300k because half you fagggs didnt think Fury had a chance.. Wilder is well known in the UK.. Just like it's well known the only reason Fury is even relevant right now is thanks to Wilder pulling him out the crack house and motivating him to get in shape

Prove AJ sold 20k tickets.. I'll wait.. And let's not ignore Eddie Hearn/Matchroom buys up all the tickets before they go on sale to the public..

Also.. You dont know wtf Wilder made vs Fury just like everyone else.. What we DO KNOW.. Is Wilder is being offered more than any purse AJ ever made while they tried to hide AJs purse vs Wilder.. Any other time they proudly announce AJs purse, but when it was for the Wilder fight it's this big secret now

THanks to Fury because Team Wilder know that he isnt selling a single PPV without some to ride on the back of . . .you know this . Why wasnt the Breazeale fight on PPV? . You still cant answer that with a logical response. You bums were discussing and trying to factor in illegal streaming of Wilder fights for gods sake. Wilder cant draw flies to shyt, thats facts, sold 13k ticket at the Barclays for last weeks fight . . AJ seems to have sold 15k in NYC by Mid April: Joshua: Ruiz Was The One Who Put His Name On The Contract . We'll see by next weekend what the final number is. Explain to me how AJ is selling more seats in the US, and getting way higher purses in the US than Wilder is, when you say Wilder is the draw and should be getting the lions share . Wilder is using AJs name for relevance, nothing more - thats the only explanation for why he's ducked multiple fight offers.

You really sound delusional bruh, but ok if it makes you feel better, yes matchroom are hiding how much AJ would offered for the fight because cash cow Wilder was getting the higher fee But Wilder still ducked the fight

 

[merklman]

The demand for Wilder ve Joshua is red hot but so is the Wilder/Fury rematch..there has to be a definitive answer to both. Joshua probably has a rematch clause though.

Agreed if this comes through. IT has to be either Wilder/AJ or Wilder/Fury next.

Though, I've got the feeling it will be Wilder/Ortiz next as Winkel threw that name in there .. .

 

[The Ruler 09]

The demand for Wilder ve Joshua is red hot but so is the Wilder/Fury rematch..there has to be a definitive answer to both. Joshua probably has a rematch clause though.

Wilder vs Joshua is the biggest fight in world boxing, it's 1 of the biggest fights in the history of boxing, as long as both remain undefeated and with all the belts. Wilder vs Fury is big for sure, but it's not the Joshua fight, only 1 belt and it's a rematch, it would do better numbers this time though cause of the last fight, but it's a huge risk though, if Fury wins it would ruin the Joshua fight which is the biggest 1 for Wilder. Most people thought Fury won the first 1, we are very lucky that the judges gave a draw, as if he lost it would have killed that huge Joshua vs Wilder fight, he may as well go get that huge Joshua money first, the Fury fight will be there for him regardless because they have unfinished business, if he loses to Fury he's fukked the Joshua fight, at least for the money he would get now, it would go down astronomically, it's not worth it. The Fury fight will always be there for him cause of the history, the AJ fight not so much, AJ wants the belts, he wants Wilder too, but his first objective is whoever has the belts cause he wants to make history and be undisputed. And Joshua fight would certainly have a rematch clause.

 

[R=G]

Wilder vs Joshua is the biggest fight in world boxing, it's 1 of the biggest fights in the history of boxing, as long as both remain undefeated and with all the belts. Wilder vs Fury is big for sure, but it's not the Joshua fight, only 1 belt and it's a rematch, it would do better numbers this time though cause of the last fight, but it's a huge risk though, if Fury wins it would ruin the Joshua fight which is the biggest 1 for Wilder. Most people thought Fury won the first 1, we are very lucky that the judges gave a draw, as if he lost it would have killed that huge Joshua vs Wilder fight, he may as well go get that huge Joshua money first, the Fury fight will be there for him regardless because they have unfinished business, if he loses to Fury he's fukked the Joshua fight, at least for the money he would get now, it would go down astronomically, it's not worth it. The Fury fight will always be there for him cause of the history, the AJ fight not so much, AJ wants the belts, he wants Wilder too, but his first objective is whoever has the belts cause he wants to make history and be undisputed. And Joshua fight would certainly have a rematch clause.

It just seems too good to be true for a Joshua/Wilder match to end the year...they might do the Ortiz fight next because Fury has been told the rematch is in March or April...

 

[Stinky Diver]

Joshua and Wilder isn't happening until late 2020.