Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
I caught that too with the push. Very interesting.
5/18/24 ESPN+/DAZN PPV - "Ring of Fire" Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk (Undisputed Heavyweight Championship)
- Thread starter patscorpio
- Start date
UpAndComing
Veteran
Joshua had usyk "hurt" (maybe uncomfortable is a better word) multiple times in the 2nd fight, yet either didn't capitalize on it or didn't even notice he hurt him
100% this IMO. AJ hurt Usyk alot of times to the body and hit him with a few right hands, and was absolutely clueless and was somehow deadset on "outboxing" Usyk. It was frustrating
Fury didn't throw full force, it was a light push.
UpAndComing
Veteran
The wild card is Sugar Hill Stewart. I'm really interested to see his gameplan against Usyk. The way Fury fought in the 2nd Wilder fight took me by surprise. No one would have thought to take the "bully" approach with Wilder
Him being the nephew of the GOAT Emmanuel Steward, that does add alot of good aura around Fury
Him being the nephew of the GOAT Emmanuel Steward, that does add alot of good aura around Fury
Your prediction with explanation Sir?you know that thing that guys like to do against southpaws
they keep the jab out like that? does anyone think fury can do that for 12 rounds?
I'm very interested in your analysis.
Thank you.
I truly think and feel Fury to get close and fight dirty, arm, shoulder and lean on him at all cost, get couple warnings..back off then proceed with the boxing game plan.
UpAndComing
Veteran
Yup. On the other side, I think Usyk's gameplan is to be more offensive. Him coming in at 233 makes me think that. Not necessarily look for the KO but be very aggressive. Maybe Usyk thinks that since AJ is the bigger puncher and he took his shots well, he'll risk walking through Fury to touch him up
Your analysis is super but maybe over thinking things Brethren! Usyk power will not trouble Fury.
Fury ring control and movement will keep Ukrainian at a distance.
There will be few warnings possibly point deduction.
i don't have a very good break down. but the thrust of what all the people picking usyk seem to be saying about the fight appears to be; usyk throws a lot of punches, more than fury, and big punchers, bigger punchers than fury, couldn't stop him. so if fury can't stop him, then it'll probably go to a decision, and if fury can't outwork him, then he'll probably lose a decision. the other side of that logic seems to be that fury is just too big and strong for usyk. the argument that you can put together for usyk just feels a little better put together than the other one that you can put together for fury. thats not to say the reason for picking fury isn't any good. sometimes someone trying to play chess will lose against someone who just eats all the pieces.
but there are a couple things i can tell you to look for when you watch the fight tomorrow. heres what you should look for if you see fury throwing a jab like this.
when you keep the jab out like that against southpaws, its to keep them from throwing their jab. it kind of locks them up. but if you do that, what a southpaw will do, and what you will see usyk do, is slip your jab and throw the left hand in one smooth motion, like this.
its important to know this if you're a southpaw or you want to know how to fight a southpaw so i'll share it with all you guys here. you should know that, if you're the guy doing the jabbing, you actually want to get him to slip your jab and counter it like that. how it works is, you keep your jab out, wait for him to slip it, then when he throws up top to your head, you throw down to his body, which looks kind of like this.
so you keep the jab out and wait, then when he goes upstairs you go downstairs and that will happen all at once. you wait, then when you see him go, you go. but theres one problem with that.
the problem is, your liver is underneath your right elbow, on the other side of your body. so when a southpaw slips your jab and picks up his left elbow to throw his left hand at you, his liver never becomes exposed, like yours does when you pick up your right elbow to throw your right hand. his liver actually turns away from you as he rotates his hips and throws his left hand. you can still target his body, but you can never target his liver, and he can always target yours. a southpaw always has the advantage when they do this.
the other thing to look for if fury is throwing a jab like that is that it makes your arm get really heavy. thats because you have to lift up the whole weight of your arm and hold it up there. thats hard to do for 3 minutes a round for 12 rounds. if thats the jab sugar hill wants him throwing keep an eye on his jab output late. how guys like lomachenko and usyk get all their stoppages late is they overwhelm you late as you start slowing down late.
heres the punch that i'm going to be looking for usyk to throw.
if you're the shorter guy, that means the taller guy has to punch down, and whenever you punch down that turns your arm into a slope.
when you punch down your arm becomes a slope and that gives the smaller man a clear path to punch over the top of. thats how wilfredo benitez knocked out maurice hope. when you see the taller man, fury, throwing the right hand down, you also want to see if the smaller man, usyk, is coming over the top of it tomorrow.