especially with them both having WON THE RUMBLE.
But... thems was the Vince days. But at this point they're past the point where they're going to get big wins at Mania, just age-wise.
The youth-push has been real (ignoring Truth)
Best we can hope for is them getting to be involved when the next gen come over and get to matter.
...they did better than Kushida and Sarray at least
...and it's 2024 and Shinsuke in better physical shape and mental shape than Kota Ibushi... so there's that