[4/6/19] New Japan Pro Wrestling & Ring of Honor: G1 Supercard LIVE from Madison Square Garden

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

This quote from NY Post

“MSG is, of course, free to work with ROH [Ring of Honor] however they want,” WWE said.

Oh word

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

This. The WWE is the big dog on the food chain, but it's an ecosystem and they need the Indy's to be successful, too. Outside of Roman/Sheamus they really haven't found someone and brought them to world champ status that wasn't already popular on the Indy's. Braun is next up too.

and all 3 of those names are ass in the ring.

 

[FaygoMI]

So why do the Indy's, specifically ROH, schedule their biggest events during WM weekend?

Because of majority of fans traveling for mainia are hardcore wrestling fans. ROH doesn't tour everywhere that often. Why the fukk wouldn't you run a show where everyone in town is a potential customer?

People have started traveling to mainia weekend JUST to hit Indy shows.

WWE Should want all Indy's to prosper. The more people in turn for mainia the more money they get in kick backs for bringing mainia to your city.

 

[stro]

If NJ only sold about half of the Cow Palace, I wonder what they think they're going to get for MSG and how they're going to shoot around that. This is clearly Sinclair people pissed and flexing, but they're going to lose so much money on this endevour.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Ring Of Honor is hoping to sign CM Punk | Wrestling News

Dave Meltzer is reporting that Ring Of Honor is hoping to book CM Punk, presumably for their show at Madison Square Garden. This seems like a long shot but feelers have been sent to him.

Last month, shortly after the jury ruled in his favor during the trial against Dr. Chris Amann, Punk told Ariel Helwani that he has never received a concrete offer to return to pro wrestling and he indicated that he might do something if it’s fun and worthwhile to him. That had everyone thinking that he would be open to wrestling again. Then, in a different interview, he seemingly shut the door on wrestling again.

If there’s anyone that Punk would listen to it might be Matt Jackson because he is one of the few people in wrestling that Punk stays in contact with.

Again, this is a long shot but I would think that headlining Madison Square Garden against WWE would sound intriguing to Punk. The G1 Supercard show being presented by ROH and New Japan Pro Wrestling will run at the same time as NXT Takeover on the night before WrestleMania.

 

[Jmare007]

If NJ only sold about half of the Cow Palace, I wonder what they think they're going to get for MSG and how they're going to shoot around that. This is clearly Sinclair people pissed and flexing, but they're going to lose so much money on this endevour.

Considering it's Mania Weekend, I'm sure they expect at least 15k. This is gonna be treated like All In on steroids by fans, I expect a sellout unless prices are too high.

I do wonder what's the math for them to break even though. I don't think ROH/Sinclair cares about that for this show, but I'd love to know.

 

[Drones]

H

If NJ only sold about half of the Cow Palace, I wonder what they think they're going to get for MSG and how they're going to shoot around that. This is clearly Sinclair people pissed and flexing, but they're going to lose so much money on this endevour.

How do you figure the two are comparable? SF Bay Area in July is a wasteland for wrestling compared to NYC on Mania Weekend.

 

[dh86]

Considering it's Mania Weekend, I'm sure they expect at least 15k. This is gonna be treated like All In on steroids by fans, I expect a sellout unless prices are too high.

I do wonder what's the math is for them to break even though. I don't think ROH/Sinclair cares about that for this show, but I'd love to know.

Vince is definitely gonna test Kenny, Bucks & Cody loyalty to ‘real wrestling’ with the coming contract offers

 

[stro]

H


How do you figure the two are comparable? SF Bay Area in July is a wasteland for wrestling compared to NYC on Mania Weekend.

I figure because NJ front office thought they were easily going to sell out a place quite a bit smaller than MSG and only made it half way. Add in an extra 8,000 or so seats, plus the prohibitive costs (which is the reason WWE only runs it once or twice a year now), and ROH branding....there's no way this isn't a money loser of a show. Although it will probably be good for both companies in the long run. This is definitely something that only exists because Sinclair wants to prove a point.

 

[julesocean]

I figure because NJ front office thought they were easily going to sell out a place quite a bit smaller than MSG and only made it half way. Add in an extra 8,000 or so seats, plus the prohibitive costs (which is the reason WWE only runs it once or twice a year now), and ROH branding....there's no way this isn't a money loser of a show. Although it will probably be good for both companies in the long run. This is definitely something that only exists because Sinclair wants to prove a point.

You have to test yourself and take those risks every once in awhile to grow your brand. If Sinclair is willing to do this for ROH, that means they are at least a little bit behind wrestling, which is always a good thing for us fans.

Alot of the Cow Palace numbers had to do with people had already been saving away money for All In and didn't even bother with that show. It was almost all local attendance with few fly-in. All in has majority fly-ins. Now think about Wrestlemania weekend, it's majority fly-in also. There was 50 wrestling events last year, and don't quote me on this number, but New Orleans saw double the amount of the capacity for the WM Show, come into the city for that weekend. So lots of people are just coming to party and hop around to all the indie shows. ROH did 6K in a 10K capacity arena that weekend with a card that had no Okada or Naito.

Tickets go on sale in a few weeks, but they should see alot more sales after All in is over and people start planning their next big trip. 10K is a lock, and I think if they have the right matches, and the right people as champion, they can push to 15K. I don't think there's anyway they come close to capacity, but if Sinclair and NJPW (who should be doing as much as they can to promote this show for their big push into North America) funnel a bunch of money into it, 75% capacity is far from embarrassing.

 

[Jmare007]

Yeah, I see this show as way more of an ROH thing, with New Japan jumping on board for a variety of reasons (they always work together for Mania Weekend, the Elite connection, the chance to make a splash publicity wise, etc.), more than NJPW testing themselves.

Tickets go on sale in a few weeks, but they should see alot more sales after All in is over and people start planning their next big trip. 10K is a lock, and I think if they have the right matches, and the right people as champion, they can push to 15K. I don't think there's anyway they come close to capacity, but if Sinclair and NJPW (who should be doing as much as they can to promote this show for their big push into North America) funnel a bunch of money into it, 75% capacity is far from embarrassing.

With decent ticket prices they are selling out MSG breh, easily. We'll see how they price it though.

 

[TBdaGhost]

Tickets are $30 - $300. I bet the shyt sells out

 

[Jmare007]

Tickets are $30 - $300. I bet the shyt sells out

Oh with those prices it's selling out no doubt.

 

[Silkk]

Tickets are $30 - $300. I bet the shyt sells out

I want to go, but I don't want to buy my tix just yet

 

[Jmare007]

I want to go, but I don't want to buy my tix just yet

If scalpers went ham for All In they are gonna go full for this show.