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21 Year Old Kobe >>>>>> Prime LeBron
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So much ridiculous Kobe Stan fukkery here I'm going to save space and combine it all in one post.
So Kobe's awful shooting and awful 4th quarter is just fine because he got a 23-15 double-double (or "double-double-double"), but Lebron's a quitter when he has a 27-19-10 triple-double?
Caught you lying again. Kobe didn't have 24 points OR 17 rebounds, he had 23 and 15, and 23 is NOT good when you shoot 6-24 to do it.
But I love this "good on any percentage" crap - that's really what you Kobe stans believe, isn't it?
Liar. Lebron had 18 rebounds in his triple-double against the Spurs in Game 1 of the 2013 Finals. 18 rebounds is more than 15 rebounds, for those of you who don't like advanced stats.
You also seem to be forgetting Pau's 18 rebounds in that game. Pau had 19-18-4-2 on 6-16 shooting. More rebounds, more assists, more blocks, fewer turnovers, fewer missed shots, and fewer fouls than Kobe. Made more shots in the 4th and made the next-to-last shot of the game when Kobe didn't hit a single shot in the final 6 minutes.
And you have to score something to win, even in a "defensive oriented series". Kobe was being defended by Ray freaking Allen. If anyone should have had easy buckets, it was him. Pau, Fisher, Odom, and even Artest shot WAY better than Kobe in that game.
btw - do you use the "defensive oriented series" excuse when quoting Lebron stats in other series?
You're lying. Lebron's the one with the ball driving to the hole in their first possession on your clip, and he had the ball and forced the issue that entire possession, but his team didn't respond. Cavs don't get the ball back until there's 32 seconds left in the game. So your claim that he was not demanding the ball with over a minute left is a lie.
Down 9 with 32 seconds left IS over, especially against the Celtics in the playoffs. It's a hell of a lot more over than down 20 in the 3rd quarter.
That's the stupidest fukking thing I've ever heard. No on ever, ever, ever talked about Mo Williams like that. He was 6'0" tall and couldn't dribble and pass at the same time. Lebron was running the point - who da fukk thought that Mo Williams was great?
And what's this "played in the east" crap? Every single year from 2008 to 2010, the team that beat the Cavs was the same team the Lakers played in the Finals. What conference you are in doesn't matter when you're playing the same fukking team.
Big Z could only play 24 minutes a game and was years away from his all-star days. Mo Williams was only an all-star replacement for one brief moment when Lebron made him look good, and just one year later he was sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Antawn was a late addition who pure sucked and was ready to retire. Ben Wallace might as well have already been retired and was useless. Mo and Antawn both sucked at defense, and Big Z and Ben could hardly move, so how you calling them "one of the best defensive teams in the league"? The only reason they ever looked good on D was because Lebron was an DPOY candidate and Varejao and West played hard (until they got destroyed by fast or tall players they couldn't match with).
Now? That as FIVE YEARS AGO. Where is that whole Cavs roster now? Within the next 3 years everyone on that team other than Varejao was either retired or sucking it up on some crappy team's bench.
MWP was 7-18, Pau was 6-16, Fisher was 4-6, Odom was 3-8. All of those are a LOT better than 6-24. So wtf was Kobe doing taking 24 shots to only 2 assists (and 4 turnovers) when everyone else on the team was shooing better than him? Maybe Bynum would have gotten on track if Kobe actually passed him the ball.
That year Bynum averaged 15 ppg on 57% shooting, 8 boards, 2 blocks, and was a huge body in the middle. He was the only guy in the league besides Yao who could stand up against Dwight on his own. Name 5 other true centers you'd rather have had that year.
Not to mention that Bosh was 0-5 in his own NBA Finals Game 7. So if you're claiming that Bynum wasn't any help because he was only 1-5 in Game 7, you better say that Bosh wasn't any help either.
Liar. Kobe did not grab 17 rebounds, as has already been pointed out to you. And Pau had more blocks and more rebounds than Kobe did, so if that series was all about rebounds and defense, then maybe Pau's 20-11-5-2 on 50% shooting should have brought HIM the Finals MVP.
That's just a complete, total lie that's been pointed out to you multiple times. Why are you still saying it? Say it again and I'm negging you again.
38% and 37% are both a hell of a lot better than 25%
And they bailed him out by making the clutch shots that mattered. Pau and Artest hit the big buckets with 1:30 and 1:00 left, and both of them had more buckets in the 4th than Kobe did.
Ya'all claim that Ray Allen bailed Lebron out in game 6 just because he hit one three with 5 seconds left (and had sucked until then), even though Lebron had just nailed a three with 20 seconds left to cap off a 14 point 4th quarter on 6-10 shooting AND was responsible for scoring or assisting every bucket in overtime. Lebron and Ray were the ONLY Miami players who hit a bucket in the entire final 10:26 of the 4th, and that bucket was just Ray's 2nd. And ya'all are acting like Lebron's team was loaded with help, but he did all the heavy lifting when it really mattered.
How the fukk can you "sum up that whole series" with the Ray Allen shot? That doesn't make sense in any universe. Don't you realize that you don't know what the fukk you're talking about?
No one in the world other than Kobe Stan believes that.
This is the same Bosh who had led the team to a 24-34 record at that point, right? The same Bosh who scored 0 points in a NBA Finals Game 7 and who missed half the playoffs the year before that? This is the Bosh who would have carried Miami to 1st-round defeat of Cleveland?
So Kobe's awful shooting and awful 4th quarter is just fine because he got a 23-15 double-double (or "double-double-double"), but Lebron's a quitter when he has a 27-19-10 triple-double?
Caught you lying again. Kobe didn't have 24 points OR 17 rebounds, he had 23 and 15, and 23 is NOT good when you shoot 6-24 to do it.
But I love this "good on any percentage" crap - that's really what you Kobe stans believe, isn't it?
Liar. Lebron had 18 rebounds in his triple-double against the Spurs in Game 1 of the 2013 Finals. 18 rebounds is more than 15 rebounds, for those of you who don't like advanced stats.
You also seem to be forgetting Pau's 18 rebounds in that game. Pau had 19-18-4-2 on 6-16 shooting. More rebounds, more assists, more blocks, fewer turnovers, fewer missed shots, and fewer fouls than Kobe. Made more shots in the 4th and made the next-to-last shot of the game when Kobe didn't hit a single shot in the final 6 minutes.
And you have to score something to win, even in a "defensive oriented series". Kobe was being defended by Ray freaking Allen. If anyone should have had easy buckets, it was him. Pau, Fisher, Odom, and even Artest shot WAY better than Kobe in that game.
btw - do you use the "defensive oriented series" excuse when quoting Lebron stats in other series?
You're lying. Lebron's the one with the ball driving to the hole in their first possession on your clip, and he had the ball and forced the issue that entire possession, but his team didn't respond. Cavs don't get the ball back until there's 32 seconds left in the game. So your claim that he was not demanding the ball with over a minute left is a lie.
Down 9 with 32 seconds left IS over, especially against the Celtics in the playoffs. It's a hell of a lot more over than down 20 in the 3rd quarter.
That's the stupidest fukking thing I've ever heard. No on ever, ever, ever talked about Mo Williams like that. He was 6'0" tall and couldn't dribble and pass at the same time. Lebron was running the point - who da fukk thought that Mo Williams was great?
And what's this "played in the east" crap? Every single year from 2008 to 2010, the team that beat the Cavs was the same team the Lakers played in the Finals. What conference you are in doesn't matter when you're playing the same fukking team.
Big Z could only play 24 minutes a game and was years away from his all-star days. Mo Williams was only an all-star replacement for one brief moment when Lebron made him look good, and just one year later he was sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Antawn was a late addition who pure sucked and was ready to retire. Ben Wallace might as well have already been retired and was useless. Mo and Antawn both sucked at defense, and Big Z and Ben could hardly move, so how you calling them "one of the best defensive teams in the league"? The only reason they ever looked good on D was because Lebron was an DPOY candidate and Varejao and West played hard (until they got destroyed by fast or tall players they couldn't match with).
Now? That as FIVE YEARS AGO. Where is that whole Cavs roster now? Within the next 3 years everyone on that team other than Varejao was either retired or sucking it up on some crappy team's bench.
MWP was 7-18, Pau was 6-16, Fisher was 4-6, Odom was 3-8. All of those are a LOT better than 6-24. So wtf was Kobe doing taking 24 shots to only 2 assists (and 4 turnovers) when everyone else on the team was shooing better than him? Maybe Bynum would have gotten on track if Kobe actually passed him the ball.
That year Bynum averaged 15 ppg on 57% shooting, 8 boards, 2 blocks, and was a huge body in the middle. He was the only guy in the league besides Yao who could stand up against Dwight on his own. Name 5 other true centers you'd rather have had that year.
Not to mention that Bosh was 0-5 in his own NBA Finals Game 7. So if you're claiming that Bynum wasn't any help because he was only 1-5 in Game 7, you better say that Bosh wasn't any help either.
Liar. Kobe did not grab 17 rebounds, as has already been pointed out to you. And Pau had more blocks and more rebounds than Kobe did, so if that series was all about rebounds and defense, then maybe Pau's 20-11-5-2 on 50% shooting should have brought HIM the Finals MVP.
That's just a complete, total lie that's been pointed out to you multiple times. Why are you still saying it? Say it again and I'm negging you again.
they shot 38% and 37%. that's bailing somebody out?nikkas act like they put the team on their backs, them nikkas was shooting terrible too.
38% and 37% are both a hell of a lot better than 25%
And they bailed him out by making the clutch shots that mattered. Pau and Artest hit the big buckets with 1:30 and 1:00 left, and both of them had more buckets in the 4th than Kobe did.
Ya'all claim that Ray Allen bailed Lebron out in game 6 just because he hit one three with 5 seconds left (and had sucked until then), even though Lebron had just nailed a three with 20 seconds left to cap off a 14 point 4th quarter on 6-10 shooting AND was responsible for scoring or assisting every bucket in overtime. Lebron and Ray were the ONLY Miami players who hit a bucket in the entire final 10:26 of the 4th, and that bucket was just Ray's 2nd. And ya'all are acting like Lebron's team was loaded with help, but he did all the heavy lifting when it really mattered.
How the fukk can you "sum up that whole series" with the Ray Allen shot? That doesn't make sense in any universe. Don't you realize that you don't know what the fukk you're talking about?
No one in the world other than Kobe Stan believes that.
This is the same Bosh who had led the team to a 24-34 record at that point, right? The same Bosh who scored 0 points in a NBA Finals Game 7 and who missed half the playoffs the year before that? This is the Bosh who would have carried Miami to 1st-round defeat of Cleveland?
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Look who's talking can't have it both ways
man ain't nobody finna raff all that shyt bruh.So much ridiculous Kobe Stan fukkery here I'm going to save space and combine it all in one post.
So Kobe's awful shooting and awful 4th quarter is just fine because he got a 23-15 double-double (or "double-double-double"), but Lebron's a quitter when he has a 27-19-10 triple-double?
Caught you lying again. Kobe didn't have 24 points OR 17 rebounds, he had 23 and 15, and 23 is NOT good when you shoot 6-24 to do it.
But I love this "good on any percentage" crap - that's really what you Kobe stans believe, isn't it?
Liar. Lebron had 18 rebounds in his triple-double against the Spurs in Game 1 of the 2013 Finals. 18 rebounds is more than 15 rebounds, for those of you who don't like advanced stats.
You also seem to be forgetting Pau's 18 rebounds in that game. Pau had 19-18-4-2 on 6-16 shooting. More rebounds, more assists, more blocks, fewer turnovers, fewer missed shots, and fewer fouls than Kobe. Made more shots in the 4th and made the next-to-last shot of the game when Kobe didn't hit a single shot in the final 6 minutes.
And you have to score something to win, even in a "defensive oriented series". Kobe was being defended by Ray freaking Allen. If anyone should have had easy buckets, it was him. Pau, Fisher, Odom, and even Artest shot WAY better than Kobe in that game.
btw - do you use the "defensive oriented series" excuse when quoting Lebron stats in other series?
You're lying. Lebron's the one with the ball driving to the hole in their first possession on your clip, and he had the ball and forced the issue that entire possession, but his team didn't respond. Cavs don't get the ball back until there's 32 seconds left in the game. So your claim that he was not demanding the ball with over a minute left is a lie.
Down 9 with 32 seconds left IS over, especially against the Celtics in the playoffs. It's a hell of a lot more over than down 20 in the 3rd quarter.
That's the stupidest fukking thing I've ever heard. No on ever, ever, ever talked about Mo Williams like that. He was 6'0" tall and couldn't dribble and pass at the same time. Lebron was running the point - who da fukk thought that Mo Williams was great?
And what's this "played in the east" crap? Every single year from 2008 to 2010, the team that beat the Cavs was the same team the Lakers played in the Finals. What conference you are in doesn't matter when you're playing the same fukking team.
Big Z could only play 24 minutes a game and was years away from his all-star days. Mo Williams was only an all-star replacement for one brief moment when Lebron made him look good, and just one year later he was sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Antawn was a late addition who pure sucked and was ready to retire. Ben Wallace might as well have already been retired and was useless. Mo and Antawn both sucked at defense, and Big Z and Ben could hardly move, so how you calling them "one of the best defensive teams in the league"? The only reason they ever looked good on D was because Lebron was an DPOY candidate and Varejao and West played hard (until they got destroyed by fast or tall players they couldn't match with).
Now? That as FIVE YEARS AGO. Where is that whole Cavs roster now? Within the next 3 years everyone on that team other than Varejao was either retired or sucking it up on some crappy team's bench.
MWP was 7-18, Pau was 6-16, Fisher was 4-6, Odom was 3-8. All of those are a LOT better than 6-24. So wtf was Kobe doing taking 24 shots to only 2 assists (and 4 turnovers) when everyone else on the team was shooing better than him? Maybe Bynum would have gotten on track if Kobe actually passed him the ball.
That year Bynum averaged 15 ppg on 57% shooting, 8 boards, 2 blocks, and was a huge body in the middle. He was the only guy in the league besides Yao who could stand up against Dwight on his own. Name 5 other true centers you'd rather have had that year.
Not to mention that Bosh was 0-5 in his own NBA Finals Game 7. So if you're claiming that Bynum wasn't any help because he was only 1-5 in Game 7, you better say that Bosh wasn't any help either.
Liar. Kobe did not grab 17 rebounds, as has already been pointed out to you. And Pau had more blocks and more rebounds than Kobe did, so if that series was all about rebounds and defense, then maybe Pau's 20-11-5-2 on 50% shooting should have brought HIM the Finals MVP.
That's just a complete, total lie that's been pointed out to you multiple times. Why are you still saying it? Say it again and I'm negging you again.
38% and 37% are both a hell of a lot better than 25%
And they bailed him out by making the clutch shots that mattered. Pau and Artest hit the big buckets with 1:30 and 1:00 left, and both of them had more buckets in the 4th than Kobe did.
Ya'all claim that Ray Allen bailed Lebron out in game 6 just because he hit one three with 5 seconds left (and had sucked until then), even though Lebron had just nailed a three with 20 seconds left to cap off a 14 point 4th quarter on 6-10 shooting AND was responsible for scoring or assisting every bucket in overtime. Lebron and Ray were the ONLY Miami players who hit a bucket in the entire final 10:26 of the 4th, and that bucket was just Ray's 2nd. And ya'all are acting like Lebron's team was loaded with help, but he did all the heavy lifting when it really mattered.
How the fukk can you "sum up that whole series" with the Ray Allen shot? That doesn't make sense in any universe. Don't you realize that you don't know what the fukk you're talking about?
No one in the world other than Kobe Stan believes that.
This is the same Bosh who had led the team to a 24-34 record at that point, right? The same Bosh who scored 0 points in a NBA Finals Game 7 and who missed half the playoffs the year before that? This is the Bosh who would have carried Miami to 1st-round defeat of Cleveland?
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Damn Kobe stans are the dumbest, all this typing in caps just to seem like bigger idiot.
LeBron wasn't yet known for his defense in 08-09 when he was 2nd in DPOY voting only to lose to one of the best defensive players of this era (Dwight)?
Great thing that you brought up defensive rating btw
Big Z was an All-Star two seasons ago in '08-'09, Ben Wallace 3 seasons, Mo Williams All-Star appearance was basically the same as Korver's this year since they both got in due to many other all-stars being injured. Jamison in 2010 was also 2 seasons removed from being an All-Star. Always the dumbest thing when someone brings up someone who "used" to be an All-Star.
LeBron was that team on both sides most of the time, if he couldn't score himself or get the other team to help off shooters to kick out to them most of the time that team had no chance. Mike Brown's simple offense of LeBron pick and roll above the three point line was never going to make it in the playoffs. Kobe's teams were infinitely better than LeBron late Cleveland teams.
Yet again LeBron got nikkas going full retard trying to hate
While logical fans who live in reality will appreciate these efforts, it's wasted on these fools. I've heard them say "Kobe had Shaq and won so why didn't LeBron?" as if they don't realize that prime Shaq and 38 year old Shaq are not the same guy. They'll say LeBron had the coach of the year and then ignore that they were arguing that the lakers couldn't win if that same coach was on their sideline. They bring up James and Allen in game 6 while ignoring cases such as Kobe missing the tying shot against the Kings in 2002 game 4 that got tipped to horry for the game winning 3. They'll whine about officiating in the 2006 finals while ignoring the 2002 wcf or how lopsided the calls were in game 7 2010. It's the doomsday cult theory. Even when facts prove them wrong they dig in even harder and stupidly argue their point louder while being shown its wrong.So much ridiculous Kobe Stan fukkery here I'm going to save space and combine it all in one post.
So Kobe's awful shooting and awful 4th quarter is just fine because he got a 23-15 double-double (or "double-double-double"), but Lebron's a quitter when he has a 27-19-10 triple-double?
Caught you lying again. Kobe didn't have 24 points OR 17 rebounds, he had 23 and 15, and 23 is NOT good when you shoot 6-24 to do it.
But I love this "good on any percentage" crap - that's really what you Kobe stans believe, isn't it?
Liar. Lebron had 18 rebounds in his triple-double against the Spurs in Game 1 of the 2013 Finals. 18 rebounds is more than 15 rebounds, for those of you who don't like advanced stats.
You also seem to be forgetting Pau's 18 rebounds in that game. Pau had 19-18-4-2 on 6-16 shooting. More rebounds, more assists, more blocks, fewer turnovers, fewer missed shots, and fewer fouls than Kobe. Made more shots in the 4th and made the next-to-last shot of the game when Kobe didn't hit a single shot in the final 6 minutes.
And you have to score something to win, even in a "defensive oriented series". Kobe was being defended by Ray freaking Allen. If anyone should have had easy buckets, it was him. Pau, Fisher, Odom, and even Artest shot WAY better than Kobe in that game.
btw - do you use the "defensive oriented series" excuse when quoting Lebron stats in other series?
You're lying. Lebron's the one with the ball driving to the hole in their first possession on your clip, and he had the ball and forced the issue that entire possession, but his team didn't respond. Cavs don't get the ball back until there's 32 seconds left in the game. So your claim that he was not demanding the ball with over a minute left is a lie.
Down 9 with 32 seconds left IS over, especially against the Celtics in the playoffs. It's a hell of a lot more over than down 20 in the 3rd quarter.
That's the stupidest fukking thing I've ever heard. No on ever, ever, ever talked about Mo Williams like that. He was 6'0" tall and couldn't dribble and pass at the same time. Lebron was running the point - who da fukk thought that Mo Williams was great?
And what's this "played in the east" crap? Every single year from 2008 to 2010, the team that beat the Cavs was the same team the Lakers played in the Finals. What conference you are in doesn't matter when you're playing the same fukking team.
Big Z could only play 24 minutes a game and was years away from his all-star days. Mo Williams was only an all-star replacement for one brief moment when Lebron made him look good, and just one year later he was sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Antawn was a late addition who pure sucked and was ready to retire. Ben Wallace might as well have already been retired and was useless. Mo and Antawn both sucked at defense, and Big Z and Ben could hardly move, so how you calling them "one of the best defensive teams in the league"? The only reason they ever looked good on D was because Lebron was an DPOY candidate and Varejao and West played hard (until they got destroyed by fast or tall players they couldn't match with).
Now? That as FIVE YEARS AGO. Where is that whole Cavs roster now? Within the next 3 years everyone on that team other than Varejao was either retired or sucking it up on some crappy team's bench.
MWP was 7-18, Pau was 6-16, Fisher was 4-6, Odom was 3-8. All of those are a LOT better than 6-24. So wtf was Kobe doing taking 24 shots to only 2 assists (and 4 turnovers) when everyone else on the team was shooing better than him? Maybe Bynum would have gotten on track if Kobe actually passed him the ball.
That year Bynum averaged 15 ppg on 57% shooting, 8 boards, 2 blocks, and was a huge body in the middle. He was the only guy in the league besides Yao who could stand up against Dwight on his own. Name 5 other true centers you'd rather have had that year.
Not to mention that Bosh was 0-5 in his own NBA Finals Game 7. So if you're claiming that Bynum wasn't any help because he was only 1-5 in Game 7, you better say that Bosh wasn't any help either.
Liar. Kobe did not grab 17 rebounds, as has already been pointed out to you. And Pau had more blocks and more rebounds than Kobe did, so if that series was all about rebounds and defense, then maybe Pau's 20-11-5-2 on 50% shooting should have brought HIM the Finals MVP.
That's just a complete, total lie that's been pointed out to you multiple times. Why are you still saying it? Say it again and I'm negging you again.
38% and 37% are both a hell of a lot better than 25%
And they bailed him out by making the clutch shots that mattered. Pau and Artest hit the big buckets with 1:30 and 1:00 left, and both of them had more buckets in the 4th than Kobe did.
Ya'all claim that Ray Allen bailed Lebron out in game 6 just because he hit one three with 5 seconds left (and had sucked until then), even though Lebron had just nailed a three with 20 seconds left to cap off a 14 point 4th quarter on 6-10 shooting AND was responsible for scoring or assisting every bucket in overtime. Lebron and Ray were the ONLY Miami players who hit a bucket in the entire final 10:26 of the 4th, and that bucket was just Ray's 2nd. And ya'all are acting like Lebron's team was loaded with help, but he did all the heavy lifting when it really mattered.
How the fukk can you "sum up that whole series" with the Ray Allen shot? That doesn't make sense in any universe. Don't you realize that you don't know what the fukk you're talking about?
No one in the world other than Kobe Stan believes that.
This is the same Bosh who had led the team to a 24-34 record at that point, right? The same Bosh who scored 0 points in a NBA Finals Game 7 and who missed half the playoffs the year before that? This is the Bosh who would have carried Miami to 1st-round defeat of Cleveland?
Look who's talking can't have it both ways
so ray's shot ain't the biggest moment of that series?
So much ridiculous Kobe Stan fukkery here I'm going to save space and combine it all in one post.
So Kobe's awful shooting and awful 4th quarter is just fine because he got a 23-15 double-double (or "double-double-double"), but Lebron's a quitter when he has a 27-19-10 triple-double?
Caught you lying again. Kobe didn't have 24 points OR 17 rebounds, he had 23 and 15, and 23 is NOT good when you shoot 6-24 to do it.
But I love this "good on any percentage" crap - that's really what you Kobe stans believe, isn't it?
Liar. Lebron had 18 rebounds in his triple-double against the Spurs in Game 1 of the 2013 Finals. 18 rebounds is more than 15 rebounds, for those of you who don't like advanced stats.
You also seem to be forgetting Pau's 18 rebounds in that game. Pau had 19-18-4-2 on 6-16 shooting. More rebounds, more assists, more blocks, fewer turnovers, fewer missed shots, and fewer fouls than Kobe. Made more shots in the 4th and made the next-to-last shot of the game when Kobe didn't hit a single shot in the final 6 minutes.
And you have to score something to win, even in a "defensive oriented series". Kobe was being defended by Ray freaking Allen. If anyone should have had easy buckets, it was him. Pau, Fisher, Odom, and even Artest shot WAY better than Kobe in that game.
btw - do you use the "defensive oriented series" excuse when quoting Lebron stats in other series?
You're lying. Lebron's the one with the ball driving to the hole in their first possession on your clip, and he had the ball and forced the issue that entire possession, but his team didn't respond. Cavs don't get the ball back until there's 32 seconds left in the game. So your claim that he was not demanding the ball with over a minute left is a lie.
Down 9 with 32 seconds left IS over, especially against the Celtics in the playoffs. It's a hell of a lot more over than down 20 in the 3rd quarter.
That's the stupidest fukking thing I've ever heard. No on ever, ever, ever talked about Mo Williams like that. He was 6'0" tall and couldn't dribble and pass at the same time. Lebron was running the point - who da fukk thought that Mo Williams was great?
And what's this "played in the east" crap? Every single year from 2008 to 2010, the team that beat the Cavs was the same team the Lakers played in the Finals. What conference you are in doesn't matter when you're playing the same fukking team.
Big Z could only play 24 minutes a game and was years away from his all-star days. Mo Williams was only an all-star replacement for one brief moment when Lebron made him look good, and just one year later he was sitting on the bench for the Clippers. Antawn was a late addition who pure sucked and was ready to retire. Ben Wallace might as well have already been retired and was useless. Mo and Antawn both sucked at defense, and Big Z and Ben could hardly move, so how you calling them "one of the best defensive teams in the league"? The only reason they ever looked good on D was because Lebron was an DPOY candidate and Varejao and West played hard (until they got destroyed by fast or tall players they couldn't match with).
Now? That as FIVE YEARS AGO. Where is that whole Cavs roster now? Within the next 3 years everyone on that team other than Varejao was either retired or sucking it up on some crappy team's bench.
MWP was 7-18, Pau was 6-16, Fisher was 4-6, Odom was 3-8. All of those are a LOT better than 6-24. So wtf was Kobe doing taking 24 shots to only 2 assists (and 4 turnovers) when everyone else on the team was shooing better than him? Maybe Bynum would have gotten on track if Kobe actually passed him the ball.
That year Bynum averaged 15 ppg on 57% shooting, 8 boards, 2 blocks, and was a huge body in the middle. He was the only guy in the league besides Yao who could stand up against Dwight on his own. Name 5 other true centers you'd rather have had that year.
Not to mention that Bosh was 0-5 in his own NBA Finals Game 7. So if you're claiming that Bynum wasn't any help because he was only 1-5 in Game 7, you better say that Bosh wasn't any help either.
Liar. Kobe did not grab 17 rebounds, as has already been pointed out to you. And Pau had more blocks and more rebounds than Kobe did, so if that series was all about rebounds and defense, then maybe Pau's 20-11-5-2 on 50% shooting should have brought HIM the Finals MVP.
That's just a complete, total lie that's been pointed out to you multiple times. Why are you still saying it? Say it again and I'm negging you again.
38% and 37% are both a hell of a lot better than 25%
And they bailed him out by making the clutch shots that mattered. Pau and Artest hit the big buckets with 1:30 and 1:00 left, and both of them had more buckets in the 4th than Kobe did.
Ya'all claim that Ray Allen bailed Lebron out in game 6 just because he hit one three with 5 seconds left (and had sucked until then), even though Lebron had just nailed a three with 20 seconds left to cap off a 14 point 4th quarter on 6-10 shooting AND was responsible for scoring or assisting every bucket in overtime. Lebron and Ray were the ONLY Miami players who hit a bucket in the entire final 10:26 of the 4th, and that bucket was just Ray's 2nd. And ya'all are acting like Lebron's team was loaded with help, but he did all the heavy lifting when it really mattered.
How the fukk can you "sum up that whole series" with the Ray Allen shot? That doesn't make sense in any universe. Don't you realize that you don't know what the fukk you're talking about?
No one in the world other than Kobe Stan believes that.
This is the same Bosh who had led the team to a 24-34 record at that point, right? The same Bosh who scored 0 points in a NBA Finals Game 7 and who missed half the playoffs the year before that? This is the Bosh who would have carried Miami to 1st-round defeat of Cleveland?
LOL U TRYIN SO HARD, ITS CUTE
WHY DONT U JUST ADDRESS THE MAIN POINT OR STFU .... KOBE HAS WON WITH MUCH LESS THAN LEBRON, IN A MUCH TOUGHER CONFERENCE. EITHER STOP DANCIN AROUND THIS FACT OR STOP POSTIN U BUM.
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Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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SO NOT ONLY ARE U A FAGOT WITH EXTREMELY LOW DEBATING SKILLS, BUT A SNITCH TOO....KILL YASELF
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FUNNY U PICKED A CAMRON SMILEY SNITCHBOY
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Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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Man when this thread ends up in the bushes
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You take the NBA too seriously. When Kobe retires, whose dikk will you suck then? Wipe the sperm off your eyes and stop riding for a player like you are his main bytch you fakkit.