21 million Chinese died of coronavirus – US intelligence officials intercept data

[UberEatsDriver]

wtf. yes it is. even for china that would MASSIVE. that's culture, economic and societal changing numbers. you know how long it would take to burn 21 million bodies, even the chinese under such a strict authoritarian would hit the web talking.

21 million, thats the size of shanghai, that would be like america having the entire population of NY missing in a few months. It's impossible, even for them.

Like someone said earlier, China is currently flipping to 5G, they have been for a year now, numbers are being shifted. Heck my old taobao account asked me for a new number for no reason. I think my old number is gone.

You’re not making any sense. When you have a high amount of people in one spot It is natural that a high number of people are going to die from something.

It’s the rate per cap that counts the most. 21 million people is a lot of deaths but out of a population of 1 billion people that’s actually a tiny number in ratio.


100 people dying of a illness in a place that holds 1 billion people is not even a realistic thing.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

wtf. yes it is. even for china that would MASSIVE. that's culture, economic and societal changing numbers. you know how long it would take to burn 21 million bodies, even the chinese under such a strict authoritarian would hit the web talking.

21 million, thats the size of shanghai, that would be like america having the entire population of NY missing in a few months. It's impossible, even for them.

Like someone said earlier, China is currently flipping to 5G, they have been for a year now, numbers are being shifted. Heck my old taobao account asked me for a new number for no reason. I think my old number is gone.

All of this...the missing phone users is curious, but 21 million bodies is a lot to hide and burn in such a short amount of time

 

[UberEatsDriver]

All of this...the missing phone users is curious, but 21 million bodies is a lot to hide and burn in such a short amount of time

china has 1 billion people. You’re ignoring that fact. Anything related to death probably has millions of victims in places like China, India and most African countries.


21 million people out of 1 billion is a super low rate of deaths.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

china has 1 billion people. You’re ignoring that fact. Anything related to death probably has millions of victims in places like China, India and most African countries.


21 million people out of 1 billion is a super low rate of deaths.

Fam, i know how large china is - that doesn't negate the fact that it would take much more than 3 or 4 months to burn, discard, hide, or dispose of 21 million people...

You disagree? walk me through it then.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Fam, i know how large china is - that doesn't negate the fact that it would take much more than 3 or 4 months to burn, discard, hide, or dispose of 21 million people...

You disagree? walk me through it then.

Yea it would take all those months to burn those bodies but what does that have to do with the fact that 21 million deaths out of 1 billion people is not a lot?


I was actually shook when I first opened this thread until I said wait up....let me go get my calculator

 

[Phitz]

This is actually a myth that’s already been debunked by the per cap rate of the virus.


The highest per cap rate of the virus in USA is in Albany, GA metro area followed by New Orleans metro.

virus can spread easily in multiple ways.

This type of silly thinking is why small towns and small cities end up getting hit hard with virus spreads because people in those towns have an arrogant belief that they are safe from it because they do not live in a urban city.

No it's not silly thinking. Smaller areas should be EASIER to avoid people, even if they are dense. You have more SPACE and OPPORTUNITY to avoid people or where people have been present.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

You’re not making any sense. When you have a high amount of people in one spot It is natural that a high number of people are going to die from something.

It’s the rate per cap that counts the most. 21 million people is a lot of deaths but out of a population of 1 billion people that’s actually a tiny number in ratio.


100 people dying of a illness in a place that holds 1 billion people is not even a realistic thing.

your math is off, I suggest you look deeper into it, especially for a province like Hubei which was locked down swiftly. They dont move slow and stupid like americans who are still having parties in bakersfield. when the chinese govt locks shyt down, they listen.

nikka im in asia right now and I had to smuggle whiskey 2 hours ago and couldnt leave a block radius (cant go outside after 8pm) and its been like this for 2 weeks now. I was in LA a week before that (3 weeks ago) and was ordering uber eats, prancing around outside going to cvs and went into LAX without a mask. Try that out here.

you can talk about density all you want, but asians wear masks and listen to the rules when they are imposed. I wouldnt be surprised if americans lost NY, but I'd be very surprised if China lost Hubei in 3 months after a lockdown. esp when they blocked those borders super quick and barely spread the rest of china, so how the fukk could they lose that many widespread, when it was contained? and 2 quarantine hospitals were built within 3 weeks. shyt is wayyyyy different out here, and im on the ground, not no cnn bullshyt.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

No it's not silly thinking. Smaller areas should be EASIER to avoid people, even if they are dense. You have more SPACE and OPPORTUNITY to avoid people or where people have been present.

New Orleans and Albany, GA both have much higher coronavirus death rates than NYC, LA and San Francisco.


What We Know About Density and Covid-19's Spread - CityLab

Also you are not safe from virus outbreaks in rural areas at all. That is a myth!


Surprising COVID-19 hot spots: Why coronavirus still threatens rural areas

 

[Phitz]

New Orleans and Albany, GA both have much higher coronavirus death rates than NYC, LA and San Francisco.


What We Know About Density and Covid-19's Spread - CityLab

Also you are not safe from virus outbreaks in rural areas at all. That is a myth!


Surprising COVID-19 hot spots: Why coronavirus still threatens rural areas

Do they have more deaths becasue of pre-existign issues AND they decided to socialize inspite of the warnings?

Even if you have the opportunity to isolate, does not mean that you will take advantage.

My point was being in a rural area gives them more opportunity to ISOLATE than being in a high rise condo downtown where you most likely will take the elevator which can be a dangerous at a time like this.

Everything I said is common sense.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

your math is off, I suggest you look deeper into it, especially for a province like Hubei which was locked down swiftly. They dont move slow and stupid like americans who are still having parties in bakersfield. when the chinese govt locks shyt down, they listen.

nikka im in asia right now and I had to smuggle whiskey 2 hours ago and couldnt leave a block radius (cant go outside after 8pm) and its been like this for 2 weeks now. I was in LA a week before that (3 weeks ago) and was ordering uber eats, prancing around outside going to cvs and went into LAX without a mask. Try that out here.

you can talk about density all you want, but asians wear masks and listen to the rules when they are imposed. I wouldnt be surprised if americans lost NY, but I'd be very surprised if China lost Hubei in 3 months after a lockdown. esp when they blocked those borders super quick and barely spread the rest of china, so how the fukk could they lose that many widespread, when it was contained? and 2 quarantine hospitals were built within 3 weeks. shyt is wayyyyy different out here, and im on the ground, not no cnn bullshyt.

My argument has nothing to do with density. I fully agree with you that density is not a major role as people are making it.


My argument is about the physical number of 21 million deaths being low for a population of 1 billion.


According to my use of my calculator it is in fact very low unless vast majority of that 21 million deaths is located someplace specific in China where the death rate per cap of it is extremely high.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Do they have more deaths becasue of pre-existign issues AND they decided to socialize inspite of the warnings?

Even if you have the opportunity to isolate, does not mean that you will take advantage.

My point was being in a rural area gives them more opportunity to ISOLATE than being in a high rise condo downtown where you most likely will take the elevator which can be a dangerous at a time like this.

Everything I said is common sense.

It’s much more complicated than that. Rural areas also don’t have as much resources as big cities to combat the virus. So if you catch it in a rural area you might be in for a rude awakening when it comes to hospital care.


Also when it comes to virus it’s more about where it came from.

a random person can take a vacation in a small town and cause an outbreak that would obviously hurt that small town before hitting any large cities.


Also people in small towns share a lot of the same resources. I can easily go to a small town and hurt a quarter of the town by simply putting all my germs at the local Walmart that is probably used by half the people in the same town.

Virus can spread easily as long as you are living in places with people. Doesn’t matter how dense or non dense it is and then you have to factor resources and unfortunately politics as well.

 

[Kings County]

That was proving to be false. Why is black people spreading right wing conspiracies

nikka its not false are u fukking retarded

 

[Dr. Acula]

The only thing this number is based on is how many cellphone plans were canceled. This could easily be explained by the foreigners who have probably left china and just normal people cancelling their plan. Also, was China providing any UBI? If not, and people were in locked down, they probably weren't getting paid and so cancellations probably increased.

I don't doubt China is lying about their numbers but 21 million just based on cellphone data is a bit of a reach.

 

[Kings County]

no way you can hide 21 million bodies. so this is just

but they definitely downplayed how many people died. probably in the 6 figures.

it's getting to the point now where us people with big extended families are hearing of relatives and family friends dying. no way it was only 3500 in china.

hide them? they burning that shyt lol

 

[Tommy Knocks]

My argument has nothing to do with density. I fully agree with you that density is not a major role as people are making it.


My argument is about the physical number of 21 million deaths being low for a population of 1 billion.

this is a contradiction

that was my point. population size nor density have anything to do with staggering numbers.

it would be like saying america losing 1 million isn't a dent in the population because they have 350 million. my nikka 1 mil people dying is staggering. even for 350 million people.