2024 U.S. Presidential General Election Thread
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Everything I just shared was from the 2020 election, why are you even talking about 2016?
But what you say isn't accurate about 2016 either. Sanders had numerous legitimate policy disagreements with Clinton and didn't think she would take the country in the right direction.
This is pure lies. There is ZERO evidence that Sanders was the reason Clinton lost. In fact, Sanders voters supported Clinton at a HIGHER rate in 2016 than Clinton voters supported Obama in 2008.
Sanders ran a positive campaign that never stooped to the level of negative attacks that Clinton used against Obama. Remember...
1. It was CLINTON who claimed that Obama wasn't connecting with “hard-working Americans, white Americans"
2. It was CLINTON who used the "Lyndon Johnson was more crucial than MLK Jr for civil rights" argument to make a racial attack on Obama
3. Tt was CLINTON who pushed the idea that Obama was friends with terrorists, a line of attack repeated by Palin in the general election
4. It was CLINTON who pushed the red telephone ad claiming that Obama wasn't competent the protect the country, an ad McCain reused in the general election
5. It was CLINTON's campaign co-chair who first attacked Obama's past drug use
6. It was CLINTON who first started mocking Obama's use of the words "change" and "hope"
7. It was CLINTON who first attacked Obama for voting "present" some of the time
8. It was CLINTON who pushed the narrative that the media was always biased in favor of Obama
9. It was BILL CLINTON who said that Obama was just another Jesse Jackson
10. It was a CLINTON supporter who started the Birther movement claiming that Obama was born in Africa
11. It was a CLINTON supporter who leaked the "cling to guns or religion" audio where Obama criticized white working-class voters
12. It was a CLINTON surrogate James Carville who said on Easter that Dem politicians who endorsed Obama were the equivalent of Judas betraying Jesus
13. It was CLINTON who pushed the Jeremiah Wright controversy and tried to make Americans afraid of a Black pastor, saying "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend" and "I think given all we have heard and seen, he would not have been my pastor."
14. It was a CLINTON campaign committee member (Geraldine Ferraro) who said that Obama was only winning the primary because he was Black
15. It was CLINTON who didn't suspend her campaign until the final primary of the year
Look in the fukking mirror.
The 2008 Democratic Primary Was Far Nastier Than 2016’s
Clinton had not surrendered at this point eight years ago—and the party still came together at the convention.
www.thenation.com
Clinton Touts White Support
Hillary Rodham Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
archive.nytimes.com
Bill Clinton says he was 'race card' victim
Former President Clinton's stumbles on the campaign trail have sometimes put the focus more on himself than on his wife.
www.latimes.com
Bill Clinton: Obama Is Just Like Jesse Jackson
Bill Clinton: Obama Is Just Like Jesse Jackson
The Fix - FixCam: Obamacains and McClintons
A new Gallup poll shows a significant number of supporters of both Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) would not vote for the other Democrat in the general election should their favored candidate lose the...
web.archive.org
Also, this is a chart of Hillary Clinton's net favorability. It peaked in 2012 and continued dropping consistently for the next 5 years. If Bernie was the reason she lost, then wouldn't there have been a visible drop when Bernie entered the race, or when he started attacking her? (which he never really did)
Bernie Sanders didn't say he would enter the race until April 30th, by then Clinton's net favorability was already at -10. He didn't even officially announce until May 26, and he didn't release his first campaign ad until November 1st. And he repeatedly refused to attack Clinton directly, NOTHING like how Clinton repeatedly attacked Obama in 2008.
thehill.com
inthesetimes.com
www.cbsnews.com
Clinton lost because she was an unlikeable candidate who ran a terrible campaign and most Americans didn't support. She had every institutional advantage possible (the party, the media, the funding, and a terrible opponent), and still lost. Blaming Bernie for that is nonsense.
Bernie Sanders didn't say he would enter the race until April 30th, by then Clinton's net favorability was already at -10. He didn't even officially announce until May 26, and he didn't release his first campaign ad until November 1st. And he repeatedly refused to attack Clinton directly, NOTHING like how Clinton repeatedly attacked Obama in 2008.
Why Bernie Sanders won’t take the gloves off against Hillary
Hillary Clinton’s top rival for the Democratic nomination refuses to attack her directly.
thehill.com
Bernie Sanders’ Refusal To Attack Hillary Clinton Isn’t Just Principled—It’s Political Genius
The democratic socialist is taking a stand by running a clean campaign, and it’s already making a big impact on the race for president.
inthesetimes.com
Bernie Sanders: People are sick of hearing about Hillary Clinton's "damn emails"
The senator from Vermont wins over Clinton and the debate audience -- and possibly Donald Trump -- with his reaction to the Clinton email controversy
www.cbsnews.com
Clinton lost because she was an unlikeable candidate who ran a terrible campaign and most Americans didn't support. She had every institutional advantage possible (the party, the media, the funding, and a terrible opponent), and still lost. Blaming Bernie for that is nonsense.
The professor has tons of time today it seems.
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
Should be front page news everywhere but Biden was called old in a report.
Jesus the Christ this is grim.
And you're right, mainstream is failing at adequately informing the American public about how extreme MAGA is.
Trump is saying and preparing wild shid he’ll do a year from now.
Mainstream media isn’t taking it seriously.
It is terrible
Mainstream media isn’t taking it seriously.
It is terrible
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Veteran
are you fukkin kidding me? on what planet was it NOT unfair that hillary didnt get challenged for the '16 nomination?
what the hell did she do to earn that, besides lose to obama in 08? an uncontested 1-person primary, coming off the momentum of the most popular democrat in history? and maybe a candidate who hadn't bought the primary would have campaigned in wisconsin in the general
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
But the ratings
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Veteran
god damnit, joe. what happened to "im the bridge to the next generation"? just be the fukkin bridgemainstream media is owned by rightwing billionaires.
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