This has been my argument for months although I do fear the debate may blow everything up. Removing the debate from the convo though...the polls suggest Trump will win or come close to winning the youth vote, Biden will win the elderly vote, the lowest percentage of black people in decades will support the democrat, and Trump will somehow do better with women than previous republican candidates post-Roe. We've got two options here: either we've witnessing a historical realignment that hasn't happened since the 1970s OR the polls are wrong. To me the answer is obvious, the polls are wrong. Too many non-voters muddying samples, and perhaps the landline/cellphone split is resulting in a weird section of demographics getting more say than the average person in a demographic.
If this doesn't tell you the polls are bs nothing will.
Before I continue,
@Piff Perkins we agree. Polls make zero sense and defy reality. Especially reality that we see once election days hit.
But I need to rant a little.
I can't wait until November. For elections going back as far as I can remember the elderly crowd tends to lean to the right in their voting. I'm talking about at election time. Actual results. The only time this has been shown to be different is with us. Our older crowd tends to stick to Democrats. If you see a poll saying Biden will take the elderly vote and Trump will snatch up the youth you need to flush that down the toilet. Nobody should have to tell you something is wrong with that assessment. And that debate is already becoming a non-issue. Only on TheColi and in the media do I see it still being discussed with any fervor. And it's fading in the media as the narrative turns to Project 2025 and, as I've said before, Biden is going to step down just because a few Democrats stood up trying to get attention by asking him to.
If the Republicans weren't so self destructive that debate might have sunk things. It really might have. In fact, if Trump had been more presidential and hadn't tried to court the conspiracy minded folks in his base regarding Covid, he would have swung to reelection easily. Easily. Any major event that happens in your term is supposed to breeze you to reelection. Just be a leader, get with your smartest advisors and handle that. This man was calling it Hong Kong flu and talking as serious as a Christmas Morning Heart Attack about drinking bleach. Covid sunk him. It
sunk his ass. Talking about he got cheated. He and the gop were too stupid to see that not everybody outside of their circle shares their extreme views.
They are still this stupid.
Repealing Roe v Wade? Pissed off a large group of the voting public.
Trying to get IVF out of the paint? Pissed off a large group of the voting public. This is the most mind boggling political misstep I've seen in my lifetime. They were on good drugs going after IVF. It really showed that everything the Democrats were saying about them wasn't just conspiracy theories. They are really out to control a female's body. It was foolish politically. Beyond foolish and it will cost them states. Keep thinking it's a game.
January 6th? Pissed off a large group of the voting public.
Felony convictions? Pissed off a large group of the voting public.
Project 2025? Pissed off a large group of the voting public.
Claiming the 2020 election was stolen? Pissed off a large group of the voting public.
Notice a pattern?
When I say voting public I mean in part voters at large but I actually mean swing voters. You can't keep pushing those votes away and win on a national level. It's political suicide. This is very hard for many on here to understand. Partly because they are right wingers. And right now right wingers are in lala land and think simply because they know a group of like minded folks they'll retake the white house with ease.
They weren't enough in 2020. They never learned this because the conversation got muddied with , "
It was stolen from me!" Wasn't shyt stolen. Dude just sucks as a person and as a President. That's a documented fact. They took all their mistakes and doubled down on them. They quadrupled down on them! And every time a poll comes out showing it's neck and neck or with Trump ahead the right wingers in here gloat and shout with glee! Polls! Polls! Look at my shiny new poll of 1000 people! Biden should just quit now! FOH.
You need swing voters. Republicans right now are just pushing full steam ahead with any bs that jumps in their head and thinks the country is just gonna fall in line with it. It's not going down like that. A whopping 50 million folks saw that debate. That's a poor showing. Majority of folks have their minds made up. Project 2025 is gonna push more and more of them away from the gop. So keep focusing on the polls all the way to November, fellas. You're in for a surprise.
Polls are design to seek out partisanship. They are a reflection of partisan views and opinions. That's how I know so few here have even taken one. They don't reflect the middle of the road. And the middle of the road will be the decider come November. That is scaring Trump right now. Trying to distance himself from Project 2025. Gop left and right trying to soften their stance on abortion. They know what's coming even if a lot of you closet right wingers in here don't.
. fukk RFK.
