WHO WINS?


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Trump went and talked to actual voters, then activated a bunch of new ones to vote for him. In 2016, he was unequivocally a good campaigner.

And he still would have lost had Hillary bothered to actually visit voters and talk to them, but she basically stayed cloistered and distant, let Trump set the narrative about her, failed to get her own voters excited, and relied on nonsense Robby Mook narratives about AZ and GA coming through for her one cycle too early.
Trump had the wind at his back.
Not saying he didn’t have a good campaign message cause he did. It’s just one of those things where a bunch of scenarios line up.

its rare for a party to stay in power for 12 years. After 8 years of Obama, the GOP had the argument to make for change. Same as Obama did in 08.

The voters he activated were the disaffected of the 08 economic crisis. The same thing Trump is trying now except we’ve already seen his economic playbook.

Last Hilary had a built-in negative perception. They tried it with Biden but he just doesn’t elicit the same anger as a Democratic Clinton.

And a large part of Hilary’s message was that we owed her a shot and the first woman president. Two things Kamala has avoided like a plague.
 

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This is why trump will lose and the polls/media gone look crazy at the end.

In 2024 anyone who is loud about their plans to vote for trump either is not gonna vote or is already baked in maga cult member.

Nobody views alignment with that clown as a positive thing other than the absolute fukkin garbage of the country.
 

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Also, i know there’s no way to quantify it now, but ima say Biden woulda won too.

All of Kamala’s strengths were baked in outside of the general enthusiasm she garnered.

Trumpism is done in this country, and has been for a while. 2016 was a stupid anomaly. The rest of the timeline is in order. The majority of the country just doesn’t resonate with conservative goals anymore. :manny:
 
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Also, i know there’s no way to quantify it now, but ima say Biden woulda won too.

I said that though the media was going 100MPH on the poor debate performance. People were "shocked" at how garbage Trump looked in the debate against Kamala but the thing is... he was just as garbage in the debate vs. Biden. But nobody would call it out.
 

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The last emerson national poll has trump and harris tied, it is the same thing with NBC news poll and NYT siena national poll, this are very credible reputable organizations for years, this should be a warning sign for harris , she is trailing biden and clinton margins on the national poll, she still can win the swing states but this race is going to be very tight, it can literally be tighter than bush/gore
This is another 50/50 poll. Every news org is scared to stick their neck out.
 

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Also, i know there’s no way to quantify it now, but ima say Biden woulda won too.

All of Kamala’s strengths were baked in outside of the general enthusiasm she garnered.

Trumpism is done in this country, and has been for a while. 2016 was a stupid anomaly. The rest of the timeline is in order. The majority of the country just doesn’t resonate with conservative goals anymore. :manny:

You're celebrating a little early breh :whoa:

I know Kamala had a great poll but let's wait until after the election is called before we start peeing on MAGA's grave
 

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Rogan posted this earlier. What a fukkin moron :mjlol: ....then has the nerve to say "everyone should understand what's happening" as if he's dropping facts. He actually thinks he comes off looking good in this clip :what:

But just shows how nervous these fakkits are. They're all coming out and trying to give trump that final push heading into election day. Full on desperation mode. Never seen anybody sell their soul on this level.





Can illegals vote ? Otherwise I dont get the whole "bring illegals to swing state to make Dems win" conspiracy
 

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Also, i know there’s no way to quantify it now, but ima say Biden woulda won too.

All of Kamala’s strengths were baked in outside of the general enthusiasm she garnered.

Trumpism is done in this country, and has been for a while. 2016 was a stupid anomaly. The rest of the timeline is in order. The majority of the country just doesn’t resonate with conservative goals anymore. :manny:
Biden would have won if the dems didn’t throw him in the bushes publicly. If they didn’t do that it would be a lot closer than it is now but I think he’d win by a whisker
 
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