2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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Cost of living in general, food gas and home expenses. Probably the one of if not the most expensive time in 20 years to buy or build a home. Like I said above his saving grace is trump is running right now.
Pretty much everything you named is a course correction to Trump policy. :pachaha:
 

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:yeshrug: They ain't gonna say it in here but bidens been a lame duck president since 2022, so yes the average social media poster rather right or left wing considers him incompetent. All I can hope for is he gets out of these wars, beat trump then immediately step down.
i hope that if kamala steps in for biden, she has the grace to just not seek the nomination in 2028

go down in the history books as the first female president, and just step aside :dead: she'd have a less than 0 percent chance in 2028. she HAS to know that
 
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Biden stepping down as President because he's old is one of the most nonsensical things ever. It's been his dream to be President for 40 years. He's not going away and Jill Biden would not allow Kamala Harris to be President on Biden's watch. She didn't even want Kamala as VP because she suggested Biden was racist in the primary.

Also, Kamala Harris being President means she loses in 2028 and Democrats lose in Congress too. There's no way she wouldn't try to run for President in 2028.
 

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Haley calls Trump insecure for spreading false 'birther' claims​


19th January 2024, 11:33 EST

By Madeline Halpert BBC News, New York


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Donald Trump has increasingly criticised Ms Haley ahead of the New Hampshire Republican primary

Republican presidential hopeful Nikki Haley has called her rival Donald Trump "insecure" after he spread false claims that she is not eligible to be US president.

The former president shared a "birther" conspiracy theory questioning her eligibility because her parents were not born in the country.

But Ms Haley was born in the US, which means she can run for office.

Asked about the attacks on CNN, Ms Haley said: "I know President Trump well...That's what he does when he feels threatened".

She added: "That's what he does when he feels insecure."

For years, Mr Trump pushed a false conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama, who was born in Hawaii, had forged his birth certificate and was born in Kenya.

Ms Haley is Mr Trump's closest rival in the next contest of the Republican race to be the party's presidential nominee. Voters in New Hampshire will select their candidate on Tuesday and although Ms Haley has narrowed the gap, polling still suggests the former president has a substantial lead.

Since Ms Haley's popularity has risen in the state, Mr Trump has ramped up his attacks on his former UN Ambassador, who was born in South Carolina to immigrant parents from India. Those born in the US are eligible for office.

In addition to spreading an article claiming Ms Haley cannot run for president, Mr Trump also referred to her by her birth name, Nimarata, calling her "Nikki 'Nimrada' Haley" on his social media platform Truth Social. Ms Haley's middle name is Nikki.

Asked about the post and article by CNN's Jake Tapper, Ms Haley said she was a "proud daughter of Bamberg, South Carolina".

"I love my sweet town and I'm proud to say I'm from there. So, that's the first question, we can throw that out the window," she said.

"I know that I am a threat. I know that's why he's doing that," she said, adding she would not get into "name-calling" with him.

When Mr Trump first shared an article questioning Ms Haley's eligibility for office last week, Laurence Tribe, a constitutional expert at Harvard Law School told NBC the "birther" claims were totally baseless.

"I can't imagine what Trump hopes to gain by those claims unless it's to play the race card against the former governor and UN ambassador as a woman of colour - and to draw on the wellsprings of anti-immigrant prejudice by reminding everyone that Haley's parents weren't citizens when she was born in the USA," he added.


Earlier this week, when asked by Fox News host Brian Kilmeade if the Republican Party was racist, Ms Haley responded with a broader point: "We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a racist country," she said.

Ms Haley said she had experienced racism growing up, but said things had improved. "Are we perfect? No," she added. "But our goal is to always make sure we try and be more perfect every day that we can."

Her comments provoked a backlash from some critics who accused her of ignoring America's history of slavery and segregation as well as racism and discrimination today.

Defending the comments, a spokesperson for Ms Haley said there was a difference in recognising that racism exists and calling the US a "racist country".

Despite finishing in third place in last week's Iowa caucuses, behind Mr Trump and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Ms Haley has attempted to portray the race for the Republican presidential nomination as a two-horse race between her and the former president.

Experts say she needs a strong performance in New Hampshire to prove she is a genuine contender when the campaign moves on.


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DeSantis, Once a Darling of Conservative News Media, Now Rails Against It​

Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida appears to have turned on many of the news outlets that once promoted his candidacy for the G.O.P. nomination for being unfair in their coverage.

A person wearing a headset and speaking into a smartphone stands near a television stage with a sign that reads, “Fox News. Democracy ’24.”

Former President Donald J. Trump’s town hall on Wednesday on Fox News was broadcast live at the same time that his two main rivals for the Republican nomination, Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, debated on CNN.Credit...Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times



By Maggie Haberman
  • Jan. 12, 2024

As the Iowa caucuses draw near, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida has increasingly focused on a peculiar target as he looks to win the Republican nomination: the conservative news media ecosystem that supports former President Donald J. Trump.

Desperate to make his case that he is a better candidate than Mr. Trump — while trailing by wide margins in recent polls — Mr. DeSantis seems to have turned on many of the news outlets that once promoted his candidacy, for being unfair in their coverage.

“He’s got basically a Praetorian Guard of the conservative media — Fox News, the websites, all this stuff,” Mr. DeSantis told reporters outside his campaign headquarters in Urbandale, Iowa. “They just don’t hold him accountable because they’re worried about losing viewers. And they don’t want to have the ratings go down.”

He added: “That’s just the reality. That’s just the truth, and I’m not complaining about it. I’d rather that not be the case. But that’s just, I think, an objective reality.”

It was the most animated version of a message that Mr. DeSantis, despite saying he is not complaining, has delivered repeatedly over the last several days. While the Florida governor’s own criticisms of Mr. Trump are relatively muted, he has urged conservative news media to be more critical.

Calling on the conservative news media to hold Mr. Trump more to account allows Mr. DeSantis to appear to be doing so himself, if not directly. But he and his team have also taken to attacking Fox News, which was glowing in its coverage of Mr. DeSantis until it circled the wagons for Mr. Trump once the former president was first indicted in March 2023.

When Mr. DeSantis was a House member, he became a star among conservatives through appearances on Fox News. He soon built a supportive network with other conservative news outlets.

The New York Post, which, like Fox News, is owned by Rupert Murdoch, declared him “DeFuture” after his successful re-election effort in 2022, making him a target for some Trump allies who portrayed him as the conservative news media’s establishment pick. He had grown used to being defended by conservative news media in his culture war fights, and by an army of online allies who would defend him on social media.

But that was then. Mr. DeSantis’s standing in the race for the Republican nomination eroded over many months. Fox News hosted Mr. Trump just this week for a live town hall from Iowa.

Mr. DeSantis, who once constantly criticized the mainstream news media, has shifted gears and gives interviews to mainstream outlets like CNN and even left-leaning networks like MSNBC.

He now finds himself floating attack lines against onetime allies as he fights for second place in the caucuses before bringing them on the trail. To that end, Mr. DeSantis used his line about Mr. Trump’s Praetorian Guard during an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” before deploying it again on Friday.

But for all the attacks, Mr. DeSantis has continued to spend a fair amount of time on the Fox News airwaves, including in a town hall-style interview earlier this week and two appearances on Friday after he lobbed shots at the network. As for other conservative media outlets, Newsmax — often friendly to Mr. Trump — aired a Christmas special about Mr. DeSantis and his family late last year.


Maggie Haberman is a senior political correspondent reporting on the 2024 presidential campaign, down ballot races across the country and the investigations into former President Donald J. Trump. More about Maggie Haberman
 
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DeSantis, Once a Darling of Conservative News Media, Now Rails Against It​

Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida appears to have turned on many of the news outlets that once promoted his candidacy for the G.O.P. nomination for being unfair in their coverage.

A person wearing a headset and speaking into a smartphone stands near a television stage with a sign that reads, “Fox News. Democracy ’24.”

Former President Donald J. Trump’s town hall on Wednesday on Fox News was broadcast live at the same time that his two main rivals for the Republican nomination, Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, debated on CNN.Credit...Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times



By Maggie Haberman
  • Jan. 12, 2024

As the Iowa caucuses draw near, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida has increasingly focused on a peculiar target as he looks to win the Republican nomination: the conservative news media ecosystem that supports former President Donald J. Trump.

Desperate to make his case that he is a better candidate than Mr. Trump — while trailing by wide margins in recent polls — Mr. DeSantis seems to have turned on many of the news outlets that once promoted his candidacy, for being unfair in their coverage.

“He’s got basically a Praetorian Guard of the conservative media — Fox News, the websites, all this stuff,” Mr. DeSantis told reporters outside his campaign headquarters in Urbandale, Iowa. “They just don’t hold him accountable because they’re worried about losing viewers. And they don’t want to have the ratings go down.”

He added: “That’s just the reality. That’s just the truth, and I’m not complaining about it. I’d rather that not be the case. But that’s just, I think, an objective reality.”

It was the most animated version of a message that Mr. DeSantis, despite saying he is not complaining, has delivered repeatedly over the last several days. While the Florida governor’s own criticisms of Mr. Trump are relatively muted, he has urged conservative news media to be more critical.

Calling on the conservative news media to hold Mr. Trump more to account allows Mr. DeSantis to appear to be doing so himself, if not directly. But he and his team have also taken to attacking Fox News, which was glowing in its coverage of Mr. DeSantis until it circled the wagons for Mr. Trump once the former president was first indicted in March 2023.

When Mr. DeSantis was a House member, he became a star among conservatives through appearances on Fox News. He soon built a supportive network with other conservative news outlets.

The New York Post, which, like Fox News, is owned by Rupert Murdoch, declared him “DeFuture” after his successful re-election effort in 2022, making him a target for some Trump allies who portrayed him as the conservative news media’s establishment pick. He had grown used to being defended by conservative news media in his culture war fights, and by an army of online allies who would defend him on social media.

But that was then. Mr. DeSantis’s standing in the race for the Republican nomination eroded over many months. Fox News hosted Mr. Trump just this week for a live town hall from Iowa.

Mr. DeSantis, who once constantly criticized the mainstream news media, has shifted gears and gives interviews to mainstream outlets like CNN and even left-leaning networks like MSNBC.

He now finds himself floating attack lines against onetime allies as he fights for second place in the caucuses before bringing them on the trail. To that end, Mr. DeSantis used his line about Mr. Trump’s Praetorian Guard during an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” before deploying it again on Friday.

But for all the attacks, Mr. DeSantis has continued to spend a fair amount of time on the Fox News airwaves, including in a town hall-style interview earlier this week and two appearances on Friday after he lobbed shots at the network. As for other conservative media outlets, Newsmax — often friendly to Mr. Trump — aired a Christmas special about Mr. DeSantis and his family late last year.


Maggie Haberman is a senior political correspondent reporting on the 2024 presidential campaign, down ballot races across the country and the investigations into former President Donald J. Trump. More about Maggie Haberman

:mjlol: Can’t tell you how much joy I got from reading this.
 
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