i've actually been wondering how this affects his persona going forward. is he even more arrogant, or did those bullets humble him?
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i've actually been wondering how this affects his persona going forward. is he even more arrogant, or did those bullets humble him?
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Opinion | The Real Problem With Trump’s Rallies (Published 2019)
There are a lot of similarities between the president and George Wallace of Alabama. But there’s also one big difference.www.nytimes.com
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The Real Problem With Trump’s Rallies
There are a lot of similarities between the president and George Wallace of Alabama. But there’s also one big difference.July 28, 2019
George Wallace during a campaign event in Pennsylvania, in 1968.Credit...Bettmann Archive/Getty Images
By Kevin M. Kruse
Mr. Kruse is a professor of history at Princeton.
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President Trump’s political rallies are certainly a spectacle, but a spectacle we’ve seen before. In both style and substance, the president’s campaign appearances bear strong resemblances to the rallies held a half-century ago by Gov. George C. Wallace of Alabama.
There are a number of similarities between the two politicians’ rallies. But there is one significant difference — and it shows how Mr. Trump remains a greater danger and poses a graver threat to peaceful political discourse, especially as we enter a presidential election campaign.
Like Mr. Trump, Mr. Wallace presented himself as the political champion of aggrieved working-class and middle-class whites. As governor, he embodied the cause of segregationist resistance, literally standing in the schoolhouse door to block the first black students at the University of Alabama and figuratively standing against what he called the “civil wrongs bill.”
Yet in his repeated campaigns for the presidency between 1968 and 1976, despite today’s consensus to the contrary, Mr. Wallace didn’t make open appeals to racism. Instead, he couched opposition to the civil rights movement — both his own opposition and that of whites in the North and South alike — in new terms. Taking aim at liberals in government and leftist protesters in the streets, Mr. Wallace presented himself as the champion of ordinary Americans besieged by both. He promised then, as Mr. Trump has now, to restore “law and order” to a troubled nation.
A former bantamweight boxer, Mr. Wallace thrived on the combative nature of politics. In the political ring, he lashed out at hippies, beatniks, civil rights “agitators,” “pointy-headed intellectuals,” both “briefcase-toting bureaucrats” and “bearded bureaucrats,” “lazy” welfare recipients, “anarchists and communists,” atheists, antiwar “radicals and rabble rousers,” and street thugs whom liberals, he said, believed had “turned to rape and murder because they didn’t get enough broccoli when they were little boys.”
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While he lacks Mr. Wallace’s background in boxing, Mr. Trump has adopted a similar stance in his own rallies. He’s claimed some of Mr. Wallace’s specific phrases as his own — most notably the call for “law and order” — and more generally has stoked the same fires of resentment and racism.
Mr. Wallace’s words electrified crowds of working- and middle-class whites. “Cabdrivers and cattle ranchers, secretaries and steelworkers, they hung on every word, memorized the lines, treasured them, savored them, waited to hear them again,” noted an Esquire profile. “George Wallace was their avenging angel. George Wallace said out loud what they nervously kept to themselves. George Wallace articulated their deepest fears, their darkest hates. George Wallace promised revenge.”
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Supporters of George Wallace at a rally in 1968.Credit...Lynn Pelham/The LIFE Picture Collection/ Getty Images
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Supporters of President Trump at a rally last week.Credit...Kevin Lamarque/Reuters
Mr. Trump has tapped into that sentiment, winning over white voters with a willingness to buck “political correctness” and voice their anger and anxieties directly. “He says what we’re thinking and what we want to say,” noted a white woman at a Trump rally in Montana. “We wish we could speak our mind without worrying about the consequences,” explained a white man at a Phoenix event. “He can speak his mind without worrying.”
By articulating their audiences’ hatred, both men effectively encouraged them to act on it.
Mr. Wallace’s rallies regularly erupted in violence, as his fans often took his words not just seriously but also literally. Mr. Wallace often talked about dragging hippies “by the hair of their head.” At a Detroit rally in 1968, his supporters did just that, dragging leftist protesters out of their seats and through a thicket of metal chairs. As they were roughed up, the candidate signaled his approval from the stage: “You came here for trouble and you got it.”
Mr. Trump’s rallies have likewise been marked by violence unseen in other modern campaigns. At a 2015 rally in Birmingham, Ala., for example, an African-American protester was punched, kicked and choked. Rather than seeking to reduce the violence from his supporters, Mr. Trump rationalized it, saying “maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”
This leads us to the significant difference between Mr. Wallace and Mr. Trump. Mr. Wallace’s targets were, for the most part, presented in the abstract. Though he denounced broad categories of generic enemies — “agitators,” “anarchists” and “communists” — he rarely went after an individual by name.
Mr. Trump, in pointed contrast, has used his rallies to single out specific enemies. During the 2016 campaign, he demonized his political opponents in the primaries and the general election, and also denounced private individuals, from Megyn Kelly, the former Fox News anchor, to the former Miss Universe Alicia Machado and the federal judge Gonzalo Curiel.
At recent rallies, he has targeted four Democratic House members who have criticized him and his administration — Representatives Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley.
Participants at Mr. Trump’s rallies have been moved to attack individuals he’s singled out. For most rally participants, the attacks have been confined to ominous but nevertheless nonviolent chants — from the 2016 cries of “Lock her up!” to the recent refrain of “Send her back!” But a handful have gone further, targeting the individuals named by the president with death threats and even attempts at violence.
In late 2018, a Trump supporter, Cesar Sayoc Jr., mailed pipe bombs to high-profile Democrats and media figures who had criticized the president and whom the president had denounced in return. After his arrest, Mr. Sayoc explained that Mr. Trump’s rallies had become “a newfound drug” for him and warped his thinking. “In the lead up to the 2018 midterm elections,” Mr. Sayoc’s lawyers added last week, “President Trump warned his supporters that they were in danger from Democrats, and at times condoned violence against his critics and ‘enemies.’”
Since the midterms, Mr. Trump’s rhetoric and the threats from his supporters have only intensified. In March, a Trump backer in New York was arrested on charges of threatening to “put a bullet” in Ms. Omar’s “skull.” In April, a Trump supporter in Florida was arrested on charges of making death threats to Ms. Tlaib and two other Democrats. This month, two police officers in Louisiana were fired over a Facebook post suggesting that Ms. Ocasio-Cortez should be shot.
As the 2020 campaign heats up, the president’s rhetoric will as well. It’s long past time that he started worrying about the consequences of his words
I saw something that said the shooter was a registered republican
i've actually been wondering how this affects his persona going forward. is he even more arrogant, or did those bullets humble him?
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Lets hope thats the one that does make the news cycle
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Having g been around Jeremy Bertino I Charlotte, I'll say it's not beyond me to believe his most loyal supporters want to get him back on code.Lets hope thats the one that does make the news cycle
.One thing I've learned is most white men and women in the south doing the both sides routine also show up I. Trump merch.
The truth is they want it both ways and they want to encourage us to not to vote by questioning why we believe.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
All imma say bout trump
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Trump shares video of supporter saying "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat"
The supporter in the video is a New Mexico politician who faced calls to resign for his comment.
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Look that sh!t yesterday was out of a damn movie and crazy. Joey and Donny need to cancel all outdoor events the rest of the Election. As for Donny, he's going to be Tony Soprano in the Sopranos finale the rest of his life (Looking over his shoulder). Lastly there will be Conspiracy Theories no matter what. Mainly because now it's been revealed that the Shooter was White and Republican (His own people trying to kill him?). Man there will be so many movies and books about this election in the future.
News cycles change drastically in this era so I doubt this will as huge come November but the Conspiracies will be flying. This is the Mainstream Media's wet dream, now they can report of Trump all day long. I'm visiting fam and my little brother was like "What if that was a time traveler from the future trying to stop something". I was laughing at him but it's wild he was that close to clipping him on some JFK ish. I was alive when Reagan almost got bodied too. Thomas Crooks? Looks like it was a young inexperience shooter. Damn a 20 year old Gen Z'er.
"Cause there ain't no such things as halfway Crooks, scared to death, scared to look they shook"
News cycles change drastically in this era so I doubt this will as huge come November but the Conspiracies will be flying. This is the Mainstream Media's wet dream, now they can report of Trump all day long. I'm visiting fam and my little brother was like "What if that was a time traveler from the future trying to stop something". I was laughing at him but it's wild he was that close to clipping him on some JFK ish. I was alive when Reagan almost got bodied too. Thomas Crooks? Looks like it was a young inexperience shooter. Damn a 20 year old Gen Z'er.
"Cause there ain't no such things as halfway Crooks, scared to death, scared to look they shook"
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
This is a well known political logic called “first they love you then they hate you then they love you again”
I told yall that good brother is so far down the rabbit hole literally everything that happens is either because the dems allowed it or it will be good for Trump
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Unless he plays it up and walks around looking like prime Nelly with a bandaid, agreed. If he doesn’t, some of his minions will make any potential sympathetic people hate him again (which they are doing already with one congressman saying this is Biden’s fault).
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Check out the craziness going on in this corner
