2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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This is why Biden will win Michigan regardless of the noise about middle eastern people not voting for Biden in 2024. The state Republican party there is completely broken. They're trying to get rid of their MAGA conspiracy theorist party chair for being trash and they have no money.

The mutiny took hold on Mackinac Island.

The Michigan Republican Party’s revered two-day policy and politics gathering, the Mackinac Republican Leadership Conference, was an utter mess.

Attendance had plummeted. Top-tier presidential candidates skipped the September event, and some speakers didn’t show. Guests were baffled by a scoring system that rated their ideology on a scale, from a true conservative to a so-called RINO, or Republican in name only.

And the state party, already deeply in debt, had taken out a $110,000 loan to pay the keynote speaker, Jim Caviezel, an actor who has built an ardent following among the far right after starring in a hit movie this summer about child sex trafficking. The loan came from a trust tied to the wife of the party’s executive director, according to party records.

For some Michigan Republicans, it was the final straw for a chaotic state party leadership that has been plagued by mounting financial problems, lackluster fund-raising, secretive meetings and persistent infighting. Blame has centered on the fiery chairwoman, Kristina Karamo, who skyrocketed to the top of the state party through a combative brand of election denialism but has failed to make good on her promises for new fund-raising sources and armies of activists.

This month, the internal dissension has erupted into an attempt to oust Ms. Karamo, which, if successful, would be the first removal of a leader of the Michigan Republican Party in decades. Nearly 40 members of the Michigan Republican Party’s state committee called for a meeting in late December to explore forcing out Ms. Karamo. Just before Christmas, Malinda Pego, Ms. Karamo’s running mate for state party chair and the co-chair of the committee, signed onto that effort, in an ominous sign for the embattled chairwoman. And on Thursday, eight of the 13 Republican congressional district party chairs asked Ms. Karamo to resign in a joint letter, pleading with her to “put an end to the chaos” by stepping down.

Veterans of Republican politics say that state parties play vital roles in winning elections, acting as a clearinghouse for distributing large donations from national groups unfamiliar with local terrain and offering discounts on expensive campaign costs like mail. They help identify potential candidates and winnable races. They are a font of the kinds of activists and volunteers critical to powering statewide campaigns. And they raise money.

But before the state Republican Party can help try to flip the state red, it must clear out its debt, which stood around $620,000 as of early December, according to bank records released in a report by state Republicans targeting Ms. Karamo. The party will have to raise money on its own simply to pay down its ledger.

By July, the party had less than $150,000 in the bank. Under siege, the state party leadership began to hold meetings in private. A meeting that month devolved into a fistfight that broke a county chairman’s dentures and left him with stress fractures in his spine, The Detroit News reported.



Its a gif link I think. It's a lot more drama in the full article. Only copied a few things. I don't see how Trump can win Michigan with a broken party at the state level.



Let..........................Them...........................................Fiiiiiggghhhhhttttt!!!!!
 

Bleed The Freak

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Trump keeps giving me reasons to vote for Biden

:manny:

The approach should be simply to excite the base and get people who are blue to keep voting blue and stop worrying about pulling over any sort of Trump supporters

There is nothing short of that man dropping dead that will get those folks to stop supporting him and even then they'll be convinced he's coming back from the dead on some Scientology stuff
 

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I know why the Dems aren’t moving the current president out despite waning popularity.

I just don’t see why the Republicans don’t just take the escape route of banning Trump. It’s not like Republicans haven’t thrown elections before (bob dole). DeSantis or Youngkin may have been ready by 2028. But the stink of Trump will be with them for another 4 years.
 

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I know why the Dems aren’t moving the current president out despite waning popularity.

I just don’t see why the Republicans don’t just take the escape route of banning Trump. It’s not like Republicans haven’t thrown elections before (bob dole). DeSantis or Youngkin may have been ready by 2028. But the stink of Trump will be with them for another 4 years.
because 80 percent of republicans know that they'll keep their seat, just by sucking trump's dikk for another year. and that's all they really care about it

truly, a profile in courage :wow:
 

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Trump didn't even write his tweet urging January 6 protesters to remain 'peaceful': report​

Lloyd Lee

Jan 7, 2024, 7:49 PM EST

Donald Trump using his cellphone

Donald Trump.
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  • The January 6 panel disclosed how Donald Trump was slow to take action during the Capitol riot.
  • Sources told ABC News that Trump was reluctant to calm his protesters through Twitter.
  • A top Trump aide had to write and present tweets to post on Trump's account, ABC News reported.

As Donald Trump watched rioters storm the Capitol on television on January 6, 2021, one of the president's top aides drafted Trump's first tweet that urged protesters to remain peaceful, ABC News reported.

Last year, a congressional panel investigating Trump's role in the January 6 events outlined how the former president was reluctant to call in additional law enforcement to stop rioters during the first few hours of the Capitol breach and instead spent much of his time watching television or making calls to his attorney and Republican allies.

New details of what went on inside the White House during that time show Trump needed the hand of Dan Scavino, who was his deputy chief of staff and is now senior advisor to Trump's reelection campaign, to try to calm protesters.

Scavino was one of dozens of witnesses interviewed by special counsel Jack Smith's team as part of the Justice Department's probe into the former president's actions on January 6. The ABC News report is based on sources' knowledge of Scavino's testimony.

As the Capitol breach unfolded, a small group of people around Trump, including Scavino, tried to persuade him to send a forceful message to the protesters, sources told ABC News.

Instead, after about 20 minutes of urging, Scavino and others left Trump alone in the White House dining room, which is when Trump posted a tweet disparaging Vice President Mike Pence for not having "the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country," the sources said.

They told ABC News that the tweet shocked several aides, including Scavino, the only other person with access to Trump's Twitter account.

Trump's aides and White House counsel Pat Cipollone once again tried to urge Trump to send a strong message to the protesters, the sources said.

Scavino then printed out several tweets to propose to Trump, sources told the outlet.

Around 2:38 p.m. local time, a tweet was posted on Trump's Twitter account: "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"

The post would be the first tweet urging Trump's supporters to remain calm, according to a timeline of the former president's tweets on the day of the riots.

A Trump spokesperson said in an email to Business Insider that "media fascination with second-hand hearsay shows just how weak the Witch-Hunt against President Trump is. Dan Scavino is one of President Trump's longest-serving, most loyal allies, and his actual testimony shows just how strong President Trump is positioned in this case."

ABC News sources said Scavino told federal investigators that Trump remained reluctant about putting out more messages on Twitter.

The sources recalled Scavino saying Trump listened, "but he was just not interested at that moment to put anything out."

Scavino's attorney Stanley Woodward declined to provide a comment.
 
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