2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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the cac mamba

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We'd be better off dumping people like you
no, we'd be better off dumping the far left, tryhard weirdos like you, who are destroying the party's image. you actually think that the "marginalized group" in this picture is the man on the left :hhh:



now this is the part where you deflect, instead of defending this, because you're an intellectual coward. go:
 

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She had his issues as a candidate, but her campaign suffered some of the same fate as Hillary Clinton's, in 2016. Divided staff, mixed messaging on themes, feudal wars between competing bastions of power, it's a death sentence of for a campaign. I would think Obama's 2008 and 2012 had much more cohesive messaging, and unity among staff. She was my favorite, but I think it wasn't right, and she wasn't all the way ready. A national election isn't like a local one, and I think that hurt her too.

The final death sign of a campaign is usually the Politico/NY Times/WaPo story about the inside chaos, right before they withdraw. I remember reading the Politico one about Jeb Bush in 2016.

Damn this is almost exact same as 2019. She didn't fix what was wrong or read the moment. I wrote that 5 years ago.
 

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Not if you're just a Democratic shill moron who has no actual moral principles and is solely interested in "winning" a rhetorical debate against leftists who expose your amorality and weakness as you hypocritically fear monger about bad policy while simultaneously fantasizing about marginalized people who dared defy you being harmed by those policies.
none of you clowns actually care about Gaza :yeshrug: the election is over, you can stop pretending now

this fact will be proven by your total and complete silence, when trump is better for israel than biden/harris; and you say nothing
 

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Damn this is almost exact same as 2019. She didn't fix what was wrong or read the moment. I wrote that 5 years ago.
i have my grievances, but at the end of the day, it was all biden's fault :yeshrug:.

reading the moment meant we had to move past biden/harris, as a whole ticket. the dem base would have been smart enough to realize that, if we'd been given the chance for a real primary. incumbency was not an advantage in 2024, bc of inflation

kamala would have gotten washed. and we have a better shot with newsom/whitmer
 

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This is why I keep saying majority of white voters (57%-60%) are a lost cause regardless of what Dems have to offer. Consciously or unconsciously these people are engineered to vote for the whiteness protector aka the Republican candidate. They just come up with disingenuous rationalizations for their decisions.

Look at Hoe Rogan twisting himself into a pretzel go rationalizing his vote for Trump. :mjlol:



Yeah the majority of white voters are automatically going to see any black candidate as an unqualified DEI hire :yeshrug: it is what it is

People are lying to themselves thinking this election was about trans issues
 

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Yeah the majority of white voters are automatically going to see any black candidate as an unqualified DEI hire :yeshrug: it is what it is
that wasn't the case in 2008, when obama went out and earned respect by beating a full field of candidates in a primary :yeshrug:

obviously, what you're saying exists. but was kamala not picked by biden, for the sole reason of identity politics (it sure wasn't to secure california :dead:or because she came in second)....and then just given the '24 nomination, without winning a primary :patrice:

i hate to give credence to that shyt, but all things considered, she kinda was. she didn't win the nomination: just like hillary. if kamala had, say, fought a full field, newsom, in the '24 primary and beat them, she's FAR more respected in the general

if wes moore goes out and beats 10 cacs in the 2028 primary, no one's gonna be calling him a "DEI hire"
 
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that actually brings up an interesting point. i wonder if the strongest thing for the party to do, is pick the person who comes in second in the primary, to be the VP :patrice:
 

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that wasn't the case in 2008, when obama went out and earned respect by beating a full field of candidates in a primary :yeshrug:

That was 2008 though, it was a different time. You didn't have the whole alt-right online ecosphere radicalizing people yet. I'm not even sure Obama would've won this year, he didn't have to deal with misinformation and social media being hostile to Dems to the extent you see now.

Also the GOP was extremely unpopular at the time due to Iraq. So probably any Dem would've won the general in all honesty.
 
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That was 2008 though, it was a different time. You didn't have the whole alt-right online ecosphere radicalizing people yet. I'm not even sure Obama would've won this year, he didn't have to deal with misinformation and social media being hostile to Dems to the extent you see now.

Also the GOP was extremely unpopular at the time due to Iraq. So probably any Dem would've won the general in all honesty.

Obama didn’t win the white vote. I don’t know what @the cac mamba is talking about, the share of the white vote that went to both of them was in the low 40%. Obama’s share of the white vote actually went down in 2012.

If it was up to the white vote alone, Obama would not have been president.
 
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