2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[MAKAVELI25]

I can't speak for every critique of the Republican outreach, but I have been one of the most vocal critics of Harris' decision to make normalization of non-MAGA Republicans a central tenet of her campaign, and my criticisms haven't been based on the electoral validity of the move, they've been based on the ramifications on our political landscape. The vast majority of analysis in this thread treats elections like the end of the path instead of inflection points along the path. Anything to win an election, consequences be damned. Like, most people in this thread would be woefully incapable of critiquing the Third Way triangulation of the 90s Clinton campaigns and the ensuing social harm because "...well he won, didn't he?"


I think it's more that most leftists are concerned with actual governing, ideology and the structural forces that shape our lives and society as opposed to the general public just being obsessed primarily with the electoral spectacle. Winning elections is the only thing that matters to the average Lib voter, they check out and go to brunch once their guy/gal wins.

This is the tenor of concern I'm seeing from a lot of leftist in this environment where Kamala is likely to win, and mirrors my feelings on this election:

I can't speak for every critique of the Republican outreach, but I have been one of the most vocal critics of Harris' decision to make normalization of non-MAGA Republicans a central tenet of her campaign, and my criticisms haven't been based on the electoral validity of the move, they've been based on the ramifications on our political landscape. The vast majority of analysis in this thread treats elections like the end of the path instead of inflection points along the path. Anything to win an election, consequences be damned. Like, most people in this thread would be woefully incapable of critiquing the Third Way triangulation of the 90s Clinton campaigns and the ensuing social harm because "...well he won, didn't he?"


I think it's more that most leftists are concerned with actual governing, ideology and the structural forces that shape our lives and society as opposed to the general public just being obsessed primarily with the electoral spectacle. Winning elections is the only thing that matters to the average Lib voter, they check out and go to brunch once their guy/gal wins.

This is the tenor of concern I'm seeing from a lot of leftist in this environment where Kamala is likely to win, and mirrors my feelings on this election:

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I can't speak for every critique of the Republican outreach, but I have been one of the most vocal critics of Harris' decision to make normalization of non-MAGA Republicans a central tenet of her campaign, and my criticisms haven't been based on the electoral validity of the move, they've been based on the ramifications on our political landscape. The vast majority of analysis in this thread treats elections like the end of the path instead of inflection points along the path. Anything to win an election, consequences be damned. Like, most people in this thread would be woefully incapable of critiquing the Third Way triangulation of the 90s Clinton campaigns and the ensuing social harm because "...well he won, didn't he?"


I think it's more that most leftists are concerned with actual governing, ideology and the structural forces that shape our lives and society as opposed to the general public just being obsessed primarily with the electoral spectacle. Winning elections is the only thing that matters to the average Lib voter, they check out and go to brunch once their guy/gal wins.

This is the tenor of concern I'm seeing from a lot of leftist in this environment where Kamala is likely to win, and mirrors my feelings on this election:

I find your viewpoint to be respectable and I appreciate the fact that you don't don't feel the need to talk down to others in every post.

You may disagree with this, but I think at the end of the day, most of us in this thread have the same endgoals. We just disagree on how we need to reach those goals.

 

[Outlaw]

@FAH1223

First show the creator of the poll is going on is Jesse Watters. I’m sure there’s no bias there

 

[Wild self]

fukking loser

What kind of candidate outright claims "don't vote for me!" In a serious fashion?

 

[Big Jo]

 

[Outlaw]

fukking loser

RFK tweets getting 120k likes and Obama is getting 33kish.. you gonna tell me Elon ain’t rigging the platform?

 

[Ozymandeas]

Yeah it's a wrap

Does this woman sleep

Can ya'll imagine Joe old ass (or Trump for that matter) doing all the shyt she been doing. I'm half her age and I don't have the energy to do all this

I thought the same sh*t. I read in the WSJ yesterday that she’s going to be in NC, GA, PA and MI in the next 24-48 hours. I would’ve been done after Georgia. She has been wearing that plane out for the last two months. Cant nobody say she didn’t give it a real shot.

 

[wire28]

which is ironic, since as a Spaniard, you're the least relevant and credible poster in here

I’d say he’s the least credible because somehow his Spanish upbringing led him to believe there was even a 0.1% chance Trump was going to free black people worldwide

But atleast he has the excuse of being a foreigner. I don’t have a good reason to explain why smooth mind is an idiot

 

[John Mexico]

i'm wondering what the fukking tradeoff is with the gambling markets

the actual gamblers are the guys you mentioned, crypto bros, etc....but are they really sacrificing money on a bad, emotional bet?

It looks like it.

I'm just mad that I went with the standard bank transfer which took 3 days too long before correcting itself somewhat (Kalshi, I ain't trying to get caught in no funny business in Polymarket)

 

[Wild self]

Foxy Brown style math

 

[Sghost597]

 

[King Kreole]

which is ironic, since as a Spaniard, you're the least relevant and credible poster in here

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying Biden should have stayed in the race because his clear and obvious cognitive fukkups were all made up by the mainstream media out to get him?

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying Kamala would get blown out because a black woman could never win the election?

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying we're doomed because whites would never vote for her?

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying (insert plain white man here) should replace Biden as the nominee and Kamala should have to settle for being their VP?

Hell, there was a guy in here who had a manic obsession with transgender people and said DeSantis was going to be the next heavy hitter...even less credible and relevant than that dipshyt?

I gotta rethink my whole approach if this is true

 

[wire28]

Jill stein and cornel gonna be on stage with Trump tomorrow night while the votes are coming in

 

[King Kreole]

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I find your viewpoint to be respectable and I appreciate the fact that you don't don't feel the need to talk down to others in every post.

You may disagree with this, but I think at the end of the day, most of us in this thread have the same endgoals. We just disagree on how we need to reach those goals.

Thanks man. I came at you sideways unnecessarily a while ago on the Gaza issue and I apologize. You're a good-faith poster and I appreciate your perspective. I'm not sure most of us in the thread have the same endgoals, but I think many of us have the same immediate-term goals at least.

 

[Frump]

 

[the cac mamba]

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying Biden should have stayed in the race because his clear and obvious cognitive fukkups were all made up by the mainstream media out to get him?

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying Kamala would get blown out because a black woman could never win the election?

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying we're doomed because whites would never vote for her?

Even less credible and relevant than the people who were saying (insert plain white man here) should replace Biden as the nominee and Kamala should have to settle for being their VP?

Hell, there was a guy in here who had a manic obsession with transgender people and said DeSantis was going to be the next heavy hitter...even less credible and relevant than that dipshyt?

I gotta rethink my whole approach if this is true

yep. less credible than all of that. you don't vote in our elections