2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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Piff Perkins

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I agree with your assessment of the Dean campaign and also don't find it comparable to the Warren campaign, but I find your assessment of the latter odd. I don't know where you're getting that Warren saw white Republicans as relatable, if anything her electoral problem was being too engrossed in leftist/academic/activist spaces. I think the only hat tip towards bipartisanship was mentioning that her redneck brother is a Republican. I remember folks aligned with the Sanders campaign trying to use the fact that she used to be a registered Republican as an attack, so the campaign definitely didn't lean into that. Biden, Buttigieg, Delaney, Bloomberg were all much more of the bipartisanship candidates. I also don't know what you mean by not releasing her platform during debates...who was dropping platforms live during debates? She timed the drops to give the ecosystem time to promote them and she would reference them during the debates. Which is standard operating procedure for political campaigns. You say she spend zero time trying to appeal to people who thought like her but I feel like it's the complete opposite, she spent the campaign trying to appeal to people like me instead of the general public. Too many plans, not enough vibes.

Yes, the Sanders people tore her apart in an unfair manner. They did that to everyone and frankly I'm glad their bullshyt is largely irrelevant now. It was never really about policy, it was about purity and retribution.

I don't think bipartisanship was her flaw per se. As you said Warren is way too lost in the weeds of academic bullshyt that doesn't have an appeal outside the internet. Another reason there was pushback from a very specific strand of Sanders supporters was that the policies they support - universal healthcare, green new deal, etc - are largely best as abstract ideals people can say they support, without the burden of debating specifics. Once you get into the weeds of HOW you implement programs, it becomes a purity battle between leftists who love nothing more than to get nothing accomplished.

BTW this is a major reason why democrat governors have largely gotten no credit for implementing multiple successful liberal policies on the state level. Walz, Whitmer, etc have pushed through school lunch programs and killed right-to-work status for unions and cut rent by building more housing etc etc. Peopl,e want simple solutions to every day problems in their lives, not policy papers. And these politicians have been rewarded by normal voters - liberals, moderates, even some conservatives. The left doesn't care because their main interest is critiquing power and demanding purity.
 

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this is NUTS

same owners as MSG so makes me hate them less over the rally debacle now

I wen to the sphere in June and its the most breathtaking, immaculate venue i've ever been to

it's massive, this is like a giant billboard in vegas that you can see from damn near anywhere when approaching the strip
They just took the check. I’m sure Trump had the funds and cut the check first they would have taken it.
 

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They know they're losing but didn't expect them to mention Texas. Is Texas really in play.

:ohhh:


it was always in play.


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Impeached AG of Texas,
@KenPaxtonTX giving a news interview saying that if he wouldn’t have stopped 2.5 Million mail-in ballots during the Presidential Election, that Biden would have won Texas & Trump would have lost Texas.


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Not even worth the research because it's so fukking obvious at this point. I still get Elon posts even after I blocked him years ago. I'll block a bunch of fukking conservative accounts and its the same thing. Like 20 more pop up the next day flooding the "For You" feed. Mind you, I don't actually post anything politically-leaning on Twitter in the first place. Legit just half-assed sports takes and maybe a meme to high school friends, but that's about it.
 

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Yes, the Sanders people tore her apart in an unfair manner. They did that to everyone and frankly I'm glad their bullshyt is largely irrelevant now. It was never really about policy, it was about purity and retribution.

I don't think bipartisanship was her flaw per se. As you said Warren is way too lost in the weeds of academic bullshyt that doesn't have an appeal outside the internet. Another reason there was pushback from a very specific strand of Sanders supporters was that the policies they support - universal healthcare, green new deal, etc - are largely best as abstract ideals people can say they support, without the burden of debating specifics. Once you get into the weeds of HOW you implement programs, it becomes a purity battle between leftists who love nothing more than to get nothing accomplished.

BTW this is a major reason why democrat governors have largely gotten no credit for implementing multiple successful liberal policies on the state level. Walz, Whitmer, etc have pushed through school lunch programs and killed right-to-work status for unions and cut rent by building more housing etc etc. Peopl,e want simple solutions to every day problems in their lives, not policy papers. And these politicians have been rewarded by normal voters - liberals, moderates, even some conservatives. The left doesn't care because their main interest is critiquing power and demanding purity.
I remember those days well. The purity politics were at their peak then. They still are mind numbingly high but it’s now 97 instead of 99
 
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