2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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Sghost597

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Republicans that are in their own bubble should be getting a rude awakening next Tuesday but alas, they won't. They will just think the enemy has grown and more religious dogma will be tossed around, 100% oblivious that the enemy is them. However, you can't tell that to self-righteous, self-indulgent people. They will tune you out.
Still not sure Allred can win.

The Rican comment happened a week too late, unfortunately.
 

The_Unchosen_One

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This. And I bet Elon has hundreds of thousands bot accounts in waiting to amplify his calls for political violence. Biden is going to have to step in and drop the figurative and literal hammer on these people.
I just hope to fukking god that on DAY 1... Kamala cancels all of Elon's contracts

Cut off that government money and leave him broke
 

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I’m more worried about some sort of congressional gymnastics where they don’t certify the vote. But I think that only works with a relatively close vote. This is why we need a damn blowout

New congress is installed on January 3rd, and there's a good chance democrats retake the house. Plus with the electoral college reform, a lot more people in both house and senate need to object than in 2020.
 

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Nah, we not gonna bash Howard Dean. As a Warren G, her campaign was terrible because of the fact she saw too many white Republicans as relatable individuals during a Democratic primary. She spent way too much time pleading for them to see things her way, not releasing her platform during debates (instead doing so during “town halls” to create buy-in for the moment), and boxing herself into a candidate for a cabinet position that the elites would never let her close to. Quite honestly, she spent zero time trying to appeal to people who thought like her. That’s how bad her campaign was.

Howard Dean is the opposite: 20 years ago your campaign would sink because you made a weird noise getting over-excited hyping up your crowd. His campaign was groundbreaking. Using the internet, grassroots organizing with small groups, and focused small donor participation. With better overall organization, he would have fared better.

This is the same guy who was pushed out as DNC because even though he was successful at the only part of his plan they let him execute, The 50 state strategy on for the House and Senate. He was a menace that wanted to take it to Republicans on every level: local, state, and national. He wanted to tailor the message to audiences while having the legislation they wanted to pass already ready to go. He wanted to find new, younger candidates to replace the old guard. And all we got was bytching from people who have held on for too long and refuse to pass down institutional knowledge while allowing outsiders to primary young “troublemakers”.

Howard Dean was a visionary as a campaigner who fell victim to the need for news for 24 hour news cycle, and now we see the position the country sits because of it.

Yaaaahhhhh……..
I agree with your assessment of the Dean campaign and also don't find it comparable to the Warren campaign, but I find your assessment of the latter odd. I don't know where you're getting that Warren saw white Republicans as relatable, if anything her electoral problem was being too engrossed in leftist/academic/activist spaces. I think the only hat tip towards bipartisanship was mentioning that her redneck brother is a Republican. I remember folks aligned with the Sanders campaign trying to use the fact that she used to be a registered Republican as an attack, so the campaign definitely didn't lean into that. Biden, Buttigieg, Delaney, Bloomberg were all much more of the bipartisanship candidates. I also don't know what you mean by not releasing her platform during debates...who was dropping platforms live during debates? She timed the drops to give the ecosystem time to promote them and she would reference them during the debates. Which is standard operating procedure for political campaigns. You say she spend zero time trying to appeal to people who thought like her but I feel like it's the complete opposite, she spent the campaign trying to appeal to people like me instead of the general public. Too many plans, not enough vibes.
 

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Nah, we not gonna bash Howard Dean. As a Warren G, her campaign was terrible because of the fact she saw too many white Republicans as relatable individuals during a Democratic primary. She spent way too much time pleading for them to see things her way, not releasing her platform during debates (instead doing so during “town halls” to create buy-in for the moment), and boxing herself into a candidate for a cabinet position that the elites would never let her close to. Quite honestly, she spent zero time trying to appeal to people who thought like her. That’s how bad her campaign was.

Howard Dean is the opposite: 20 years ago your campaign would sink because you made a weird noise getting over-excited hyping up your crowd. His campaign was groundbreaking. Using the internet, grassroots organizing with small groups, and focused small donor participation. With better overall organization, he would have fared better.

This is the same guy who was pushed out as DNC because even though he was successful at the only part of his plan they let him execute, The 50 state strategy on for the House and Senate. He was a menace that wanted to take it to Republicans on every level: local, state, and national. He wanted to tailor the message to audiences while having the legislation they wanted to pass already ready to go. He wanted to find new, younger candidates to replace the old guard. And all we got was bytching from people who have held on for too long and refuse to pass down institutional knowledge while allowing outsiders to primary young “troublemakers”.

Howard Dean was a visionary as a campaigner who fell victim to the need for news for 24 hour news cycle, and now we see the position the country sits because of it.

Yaaaahhhhh……..
Dean was going to lose before the whole Yahhhhh debacle anyway
 
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