2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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It failed spectacularly with Hillary. It's certainly a riskier play than just running as the "generic Democrat." A "normal liberal" campaign would be in a far stronger position I think,
:skip: and what is that, exactly, in the year 2024

kamala is running away from the far left shyt she was saying in 2019, because it's embarrassing. simple as that :yeshrug:
 

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:skip: and what is that, exactly, in the year 2024

kamala is running away from the far left shyt she was saying in 2019, because it's embarrassing. simple as that :yeshrug:
To be fair, it's not just a her issue.

Democrats have totally ceded to right-wing framing on several issues. Most prominently immigration. They failed to counter right-wing propaganda on the issue and now are fighting R's on their terms. Instead of making a strong counterargument like they were doing during Trump's entire tenure (with most Americans agreeing with them) they now look like fake pussies on the issue. It's a Democrat classic, attempting to triangulate until they strangle themselves, moving the Overton window right in the process.

What is a liberal campaign? The one Joe Biden ran in 2020. His campaign was far more left, and actually worked despite not even really campaigning and a lack of GOTV efforts due to COVID.
 

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To be fair, it's not just a her issue.

Democrats have totally ceded to right-wing framing on several issues. Most prominently immigration. They failed to counter right-wing propaganda on the issue and now are fighting R's on their terms. Instead of making a strong counterargument like they were doing during Trump's entire tenure (with most Americans agreeing with them) they now look like fake pussies on the issue. It's a Democrat classic, attempting to triangulate until they strangle themselves, moving the Overton window right in the process.

What is a liberal campaign? The one Joe Biden ran in 2020. His campaign was far more left, and actually worked despite not even really campaigning and a lack of GOTV efforts due to COVID.
:patrice: i disagree on immigration. most polling, especially in the middle of this inflation, says that americans have little patience for importing immigrants right now. NYC's public humiliation, begging for money over a few busloads, was pretty much the nail in that coffin

and biden's campaign wasn't a liberal campaign, it was a moderate campaign. that's why he won the primary, and that's what we wanted him to run on in the general. we didn't nominate warren or bernie for a reason :dead:

what was biden farther left than kamala on in 2020? when it comes to the important shyt, they seem pretty similar. workers/unions, min wage, abortion, etc. biden did not run on banning fracking in 2020, for the same reason kamala isn't this year. it's embarrassing once you hit the general election
 
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:patrice: i disagree on immigration. most polling, especially in the middle of this inflation, says that americans have little patience for importing immigrants right now. NYC's public humiliation was pretty much the nail in that coffin

and biden's campaign wasn't a liberal campaign, it was a moderate campaign. that's why he won the primary, and that's what we wanted him to run on in the general. we didn't nominate warren or bernie for a reason
This can be directly tied to Democrats ceding the issue. Public opinion was strongly on the Democrats side of the issue until into Biden's term and the "bipartisan bill" debacle. Democrats entertaining evil Republicans and acknowledging immigration as a safety issue rather than as an economic issue was disastrous.

Biden ran left of his general voting record and profile in the general. In the primary he ran as a centrist because that's what the skittish base wanted to avoid losing to Trump. And hey, it worked!

But in the general his allies were saying he would bring the next New Deal :heh: He was promising student loan forgiveness, the biggest infrastructure bill, all sorts of shyt :mjlol:
 

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This would explain why the polls are messy. Dems are responding less to them.

My rationale for never picking up the phone for polls is that I don't want democrats to see a sample where they are comfortable. I want them in the perpetual state of having to work for the vote. Will I be a reliable straight dem ticket for the rest of my days? Yes. Not everyone is me so I want them to keep working as if they are an underdog.

If you know that you are up on the score, teams tend to play prevent defense. We should never get into prevent defense in politics. All gas, no brakes.
 

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Mark Cuban on CNBC: I sat in front of restaurant owners and asked them 'what would it be like if you got a knock on your door and there was someone from Stephen Miller's squad asking you for the immigration status of everyone who works for you?' That's not how you run a country.



2/2
Mark Cuban to Joe Kernen: "That's one of the great things about Kamala Harris. She's not an ideologue. She's open minded. Donald Trump thinks he knows everything. He doesn't change."




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@MichaelSteele
This utter BS. At what point do we stop dumbing ourselves down with the mind-numbingly stupid crap that comes out of @realDonaldTrump mouth—the lies, the stunts, the othering of our fellow Americans. He is unfit to serve as our president. He IS a danger to the values we purport as a nation. NO GOOD will come from him sitting behind the Resolute desk again. None. /search?q=#Project2025 /search?q=#isolationism /search?q=#tariffs /search?q=#Putin /search?q=#whitenationism /search?q=#Jan6.

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Trump on Fox & Friends in response to a question about how he'll fix schools in the Bronx: "No transgender, no operations. You know, they take your kid. There are some places, your boy leaves the school, comes back a girl. Without parental consent. What is that all about?"


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@yeldopaul
Comparing Kamala's upward momentum to Trump's downward spiral is telling. One leader worked hard for success; the other's crumbling under scrutiny. Which one deserves our trust? /search?q=#LeadershipMatters /search?q=#IntegrityFirst



3/10
@tazzman22
Yes, Trump is lying again.



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4/10
@christyy__0
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5/10
@JoJoFromJerz
Setting aside the fact that he continues to just flat out lie 24/7, this teeny peen motherfukker has some serious issues when it comes to genitalia. It’s like 3/4 of what he fukking talks about now. 🧐



6/10
@mj_wedge
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7/10
@k2030320567692
Kamala's a low IQ candidate who lectures America on the importance of preserving democracy, but...

didn't register to vote until AGE 29.

Can't make this up. Google it.

Kamala's a CON.



8/10
@LisaMikol3369
As a teacher, I can promise you we do not perform sex change operations on our students. I have a difficult time getting band aids from the nurses office & often have had to buy them with my own money.



9/10
@lizzy6652
So well said Michael Steele.



10/10
@votebluedemo
The fact that we have voters out there dumb enough to believe this sh*t is even more stupefying.

He would not be saying it if it didn’t work on at least a decent number of people.




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@atrupar
this clip serves as a terrifying reminder that Trump learned absolutely nothing from covid and is completely unequipped to handle any type of public health crisis

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Trump describing the pandemic to The Undertaker should make you terrified for the possibility of another happening under him.

“Who would’ve ever thought the word pandemic…I had heard the word, but you never thought it was a modern day…nowadays you take a shot and you’re fine.”


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2/11
@BonaFideMugsie
Make this nightmare end, please.🙏



3/11
@Mamabenergy2
📣📣📣 Play this on a loop for all to see in real time.

1,207,814
Seconds Until Election Day

It is also the TOTAL number of
Covid Deaths in The United States since January 1, 2020.

1,207,814 people whose lives were cut short, and we will never know how many could have been prevented.

Donald Trump acted like an Authoritarian NOT a Humanitarian.
He gave away ventilators, tests, and supplies to Russia.

He said it would go away in a few days.

He himself, was incredibly sick and had to be treated at Walter Reed.

He told you to drink bleach and light.
He told you to eat horse paste.
He made mask wearing divisive.

Every single time the clock ticks until Election Day, is a person who mattered and is not here today.

Vote Trump out of existence.
Vote for science.
Vote for sanity, logic, and reason.
Vote for compassion.
Vote for empathy.
Vote for democracy.
Vote for Kamala Harris.

Vote for those 1,207,814 who will never get the chance to do so!
Send a clear message!

Vote Blue down the ballot!

/search?q=#Vote    /search?q=#Covid /search?q=#masks /search?q=#vaccine /search?q=#vaxxed /search?q=#Trump /search?q=#MAGA /search?q=#VoteBlue /search?q=#Kamala2024 /search?q=#HarrisWalz2024



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4/11
@RoninJoey
Honestly this would be very powerful ad to run with this exact idea and using a clip of him speaking.



5/11
@Sir_Ater
RIP to the 100 million we lost in 2017…..



6/11
@ArbiterofCool
President Obama left his admin a PANDEMIC PLAN that they effectively shredded. Estimates are that it would've saved a minimum of 400,000 lives. Trump should be tried on mass murder.



7/11
@Eli_Fit1
No President has learned less in 4 years of "running the country" than Trump.

The guy doesn't understand how tariffs work & blatantly ignores all expert advice.

A similar scenario would disqualify him from virtually all other lines of work.

The most ignorant former President.



8/11
@Metz4Real
No one will ever master the art of speaking to the Willfully Ignorant like Donald. He's one of them. "If I didn't know it, it must be either stupid, unimportant, or fake."



9/11
@wiley_inc
I believe the Bob Woodward books told us all we needed to know about Ttump’s mismanagement of the COVID pandemic, resulting in the death of over a million Americans.

Trump gave Putin Covid tests
He told Americans to drink bleach



10/11
@MarcCommoy




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@Bowerygals




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i just got a text about Get Out The Vote events in the area. thought it might be some cool shyt, but the closest one is Democrats hosting a drag show by UNLV :mjlol:
 
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