2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[Hood Critic]

There wasn’t a serious democratic presidential primary this year which a lot of you supported. The only option was uncommitted which a lot of you said was stupid.

When is there ever a serious primary following a politically successful incumbent? That fell apart because the party panicked about his age but the party also knew there was no momentum at ~3 months out from election for any of the potential primary challengers.

The uncommitted option is criticized because none of you really had/have equivalent issues with other aspects of the existing or potentially new administration's governance.

 

[wire28]

Leveraging your vote would make perfect sense if there was a candidate to put your vote with who had real intentions to shift foreign policy. We all know there isn't such a candidate.

We dog pile any other single issue voter for being short-sighted but somehow calling this out is anti-democratic.

Keep in mind you are speaking to someone who plans on casting his vote for brother cornel

 

[AquaCityBoy]

No one has told you to not be critical of Kamala

Four posts earlier:

You know Trump will be worse so then vlstop complaining and vote Kamala.
Anything else is complaining for the sake of complaining

 

[Sghost597]

Keep in mind you are speaking to someone who plans on casting his vote for brother cornel

The reality of it. Its way too late in the process to be wanting a better candidate. We all want someone better than Harris, but she's the only person providing hope to preserve our democracy and ability to move forward with a choice to getting these issues. She has some solid middle class centric policies, Ukraine aid, civil rights rehetoric and that's it.

Not voting, protest voting, or being an a$$hole because you don't want to vote for a women is just insanely counter productive to preserving our democracy and getting the things you want.

You can't be demanding new teams with 3 minutes left in the game. It is what it is and ignoring the dangers of Trump and his extremist want to do is reckless.

If you have a grievance. Talking down to others and being rude isn't going to get you any sympathy with anyone that understands the bigger picture at hand.

We was able to get out from under Biden and that was already an unprecedented moment.

 

[No1]

This is the dichotomy. Trump talks change but hurts the VERY people that believe his lies.

Dems works towards change but aren't about lieing at every turn.

Folks talk about Trump like he was actually anti-establishment. He wasn't. Everything had to be a benefit to him first and foremost, and he is the definition of establishment. The consideration needs to be, why are people believing Trump's lies?

Because Trump speaks at a fourth grade level and gives people simple and digestible policies and they think he has credibility as a businessman. Also, he makes the people they dislike uncomfortable. It’s a joke that they believe him but it is, what it is.

The other thing is, Democrats are not actually a party like you have over there in the UK. You guys have multiparty democracy and form coalitions. Democrats are a group of people with disparate views put under one umbrella because of their opposition to republicans. So you get split messaging.

 

[Loose]

That's a late ass debate she shouldn't do it imo

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[King Static X]

Four posts earlier:

If Kamala is elected, THEN you can complain about her.

 

[Robbie3000]

It’s an indictment on American society that presidential candidates are going on All the Smoke and Flagrant podcasts.

 

[No1]

He was right about Biden dropping out in terms of the timing

He is talking to people

@No1 might have more inside baseball from his campaign sources

Nobody checking for Mark.

 

[the next guy]

Democrats: who cares about these people.

 

[mastermind]

When is there ever a serious primary following a politically successful incumbent?

Thats fine, but Biden was deeply unpopular and is sundwoning. Thats undemocratic.

That fell apart because the party panicked about his age but the party also knew there was no momentum at ~3 months out from election for any of the potential primary challengers.

And the party intentionally pushed against a competitive primary. Any candidate that could have been opposed to some of these actions and policies didn't get a chance to go.

The uncommitted option is criticized because none of you really had/have equivalent issues with other aspects of the existing or potentially new administration's governance.

Its criticized because it goes against the current Democratic Party establishment. Most of you think you are them

 

[Micky Mikey]

Democrats: who cares about these people.

Maybe these people are just stupid. Nothing Dems can offer can counteract the impact of deliberate mass information. Republicans/Trump have done NOTHING for working class people. If people cannot see this then they deserve what they get.

 

[King Static X]

Democrats: who cares about these people.

This old sh!t was already posted. Why are you posting it again?

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

It’s an indictment on American society that presidential candidates are going on All the Smoke and Flagrant podcasts.

It was baron’s idea