2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

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Get Ready Now: Republicans Will Refuse to Certify a Harris Win​

Trumpist county election officials are preparing to throw the process into chaos.​


A.B. Stoddard


Aug 08, 2024

Some darkness in honor of JVL. It’s important stuff. —A.B. Stoddard


(Composite / Photos: SAUL LOEB/AFP, JEFF KOWALSKY/AFP via Getty Images)

1. Trump’s Not Taking the L. . .​


The last two weeks—the unveiling of the Harris-Walz ticket, and Kamala Harris’s surge in the polls—feels like some surreal dream state. Everything has changed. Have you noticed Harris has pushed Donald Trump right out of the comfy lead he’s held for an entire year? He’s noticed. From FiveThirtyEight to RealClearPolitics—pick your polling average—they all now show Harris out in front after only two and a half weeks.

Trump is no longer on track to win the election—which he has been for more than six straight months. Instead, the momentum, money, voter registration, volunteering, grassroots organizing, polling, and online engagement all favor the Democrats and it looks now like Trump could easily lose.

But that won’t happen, because Trump doesn’t lose. He beat Joe Biden in 2020—remember? So if he’s not the rightful victor on November 5, an entire army of Republicans is ready to block certification of the election at the local level.

No need to worry about mayhem on January 6, 2025 when Congress meets in joint session; the election deniers plan to stop a result right away if it looks like Harris is winning. Their goal: Refuse to certify anywhere—even a county that Trump won—and prevent certification in that state, which prevents certification of the presidential election.

A Harris victory could become a nightmare.

An investigation byRolling Stone identified “in the swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania . . . at least 70 pro-Trump election conspiracists currently working as county election officials who have questioned the validity of elections or delayed or refused to certify results.” Of those 70, 22 of them already have “refused or delayed certification” in recent past elections. Nationwide, Republicans have refused to certify results at least 25 times since 2020, in eight states—the most in Georgia.

The article describes social media posts from the zealots who have infiltrated election administration as showing “unapologetic belief in Trump’s election lies, support for political violence, themes of Christian nationalism, and controversial race-based views.”

There are more than enough such individuals in these key posts to bring us to a constitutional crisis.

“I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias told Rolling Stone. “Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless, and more prepared.”

Sit with that.

Then there is this. Trump’s self-destructive attacks on Georgia’s popular governor made the headlines from his Atlanta rally last Saturday, but he also singled out for praise three little-known Georgians—Janice Johnston, Rick Jeffares, and Janelle King—calling them “pitbulls fighting for honesty, transparency, and victory.”

Who are Johnston, Jeffares, and King? They are three of the five members of Georgia’s State Election Board. Three days after Trump’s speech, this past Tuesday, those three Republicans approved a new rule requiring a “reasonable inquiry” prior to election certification that—while vague and undefined—could be exploited to delay certification and threaten the statewide election certification deadline of November 22.

The law in Georgia, where Trump and fourteen1 others are charged with plotting to overturn the 2020 election result, requires county election boards to certify results “not later than 5:00 P.M. on the Monday following the date on which such election was held”—so this year, by the evening of November 11. The secretary of state is then to certify the statewide results “not later than 5:00 P.M. on the seventeenth day” after the election, so November 22.

Across the country, the November election results will have to be certified in more than 3,000 counties, and all state results must be final by the time electors meet in each state on December 17. Members of county election boards are not tasked with resolving election issues; certification is mandatory and “ministerial,” not discretionary. Disputes over ballot issues are separate from the certification process—investigated and adjudicated by district attorneys, state election boards, and in court.

Election experts say the new rule could disrupt the entire process across the state by allowing local partisans to reject results. And Georgia appears to be at the center of Trump’s plans. Casting doubt on Fulton County, which makes up the bulk of Democratic votes in the state, will help him claim he won the Peach State as the rest of the results come in red.

But even without an explicitly permitted “inquiry” like the new Georgia rule provides, Republicans in other swing states still plan on acting at the county level to slow or stop certification. Because questioning the outcome at the very start of the process will create delay. Any doubt and confusion, and perhaps even violence, makes it easier to miss essential deadlines and can threaten the chance that the rightful winner prevails.

Election deniers also hope that sowing chaos might prompt GOP legislatures to intervene—in Georgia, Arizona, or Wisconsin for example—a dangerous scenario I wrote about in April.

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Once again, I'll point out, the SUPREME COURT gave Biden extreme power, he can round up anyone he suspects of treason and have them jailed. These folks don't want those problems. They'll fall in line and certify the election. Or be replaced.
 

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Once again, I'll point out, the SUPREME COURT gave Biden extreme power, he can round up anyone he suspects of treason and have them jailed. These folks don't want those problems. They'll fall in line and certify the election. Or be replaced.

Also this happened on July 10th, and Biden dropped out on the 21st.

I think the Supreme Court thought as well Biden wouldn't pull this shyt -nor- witness Kamala getting this much energy -nor- watching Trump destroy his campaign because he thought Biden would be his opponent as well -nor- how disasterous DM Vance would be for a VP pick.
 

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Also this happened on July 10th, and Biden dropped out on the 21st.

I think the Supreme Court thought as well Biden wouldn't pull this shyt -nor- witness Kamala getting this much energy -nor- watching Trump destroy his campaign because he thought Biden would be his opponent as well -nor- how disasterous DM Vance would be for a VP pick.

Yea it’s beyond fukked up how the SC ruled and clearly it was under the presumption of another Trump presidency, essentially protecting him

Those 6 conservative judges are the scum of the earth. I don’t wish death on anybody but since they are appointed for life…
 

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Not a chance.

He's only chance of staying out of prison is becoming president and turning that into an autocracy

He also is mentally ill to the point where I believe he's worked himself into a shoot...he really believes this stolen election bullshyt
 

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