2022 DEAVORS - TEA AND BISCUITS

[Norrin Radd]

Must be two Alexas. She’s improved in the ring about as much as Dana Brooke yet has been on the roster much longer than a lot of these women that come to the WWE and NXT and instantly lap her. How do Lacey, Kacy, and Xia Li pass her up in like a fraction of the time???

If we believe Sasha (which I do) its cause she was never really a fan of wrestling to begin with

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Must be two Alexas. She’s improved in the ring about as much as Dana Brooke yet has been on the roster much longer than a lot of these women that come to the WWE and NXT and instantly lap her. How do Lacey, Kacy, and Xia Li pass her up in like a fraction of the time???

Some of these people have been wrestling for years and are still just as green as they first started.

Like how could you not have learned how to put on even a semi decent match after all this time

 

[THE 101]

I don't get why people keep saying it's a sure thing AEW sign Peyton because she's in a relationship with Shawn Spears

I know Tony Khan is a mark for the locker room but signing someone just because they're married to basically a jobber would be some seriously indulgent shyt. If it was an Omega/Jericho level talent, sure understandable. Put Tye fukking Dillinger?

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Must be two Alexas. She’s improved in the ring about as much as Dana Brooke yet has been on the roster much longer than a lot of these women that come to the WWE and NXT and instantly lap her. How do Lacey, Kacy, and Xia Li pass her up in like a fraction of the time???

Kacy and Xia have not passed up Alexa, cut it out lol.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Kacy and Xia have not passed up Alexa, cut it out lol.

You can’t be serious man. Lacey is already way better than her, and Kacy’s offense looks far more realistic despite weighing like 80 pounds. An Alexa match is about 10 weak hapless elbows and kicks, that flipping knee drop that is always too slow, and her finisher.

 

[Reality Check]

I find it rather hilarious that people are picking Billie Kay as the hill to die on when it comes to releases. It’s almost like people forget that people get let go all the time

Just because you recently signed a contract doesn’t mean shyt. The fact that people still think that makes a wrestler being immune from getting cut is laughable. Look at Chelsea Green and her recent 3 year extension along with Peyton Royce who just a few months ago was in line for a mega push

Other than Samoa Joe, the outrage you see is more about the reason they supposedly cited than the talent themselves. Roster is still too bloated and they could probably cut about 20-30 more people without it affecting the on-screen product. With that said, saying they're being let go due to "budget cuts" is a fukking joke to put it lightly. They sent out a press release about their income for 2020 and it's insulting to tell talent their being let go due to budget cuts when they made more money in 2020 than 2019 without live crowds for 10 months.

WWE® Reports Record 2020 Results and 2021 Business Outlook

I don't get why people keep saying it's a sure thing AEW sign Peyton because she's in a relationship with Shawn Spears

I know Tony Khan is a mark for the locker room but signing someone just because they're married to basically a jobber would be some seriously indulgent shyt. If it was an Omega/Jericho level talent, sure understandable. Put Tye fukking Dillinger?

AEW needs to boost the depth in their women's division and having people who have live tv experience is a plus. Don't think that's a huge secret at this point.

 

[Ace Money]

It’s wayyy too many people on WWE/NXT roster and honestly the majority of them should have been gone long ago or never even signed in the first place.

While I'm open to valet/manager roles, this shyt right here is the primary reason why we find ourselves in threads like this ever other year.

A hiring freeze on talent--with the exception of marque names/proven draws--should arguably take place over the next year. Perhaps in the following year, they can strategically/selectively add to the roster to fill needs (Mind your business and let me dream, bruhs. )

It legit makes no sense to stockpile all these assets (I'm sorry, but I also don't buy into the "they just signed them to prevent other companies from adding them to their rosters" argument either; I honestly don't think Vince/HHH/Steph gives that much of a fukk, nor have done actual reconnaissance).

Lastly, I understand the ideal chronological dynamic of the company: Acquisition, NXT, Main roster. However, that transition has been hit or miss for quite sometime now. This also plays a role in talent retention and success. This "make it work" argument is low-key lazy and unfair. Everyone isn't R-Truth/New Day. While these talents made it work, they also had senior presence in the company/industry--something an up incomer and/or former indie darling might not have. Also, we've seen what happens when Vince sees you're getting over on your own/beyond what he thinks is your ceiling.
Shout out to Zach Ryder.

 

[PlainSight]

Kacy and Xia have not passed up Alexa, cut it out lol.

Debatable - and I'm not as harsh on Alexa's ring work as others. I'd say they're at a similar level. Alexa is a good personality though (as much as I'm not crazy about the current work).

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

I don't get why people keep saying it's a sure thing AEW sign Peyton because she's in a relationship with Shawn Spears

I know Tony Khan is a mark for the locker room but signing someone just because they're married to basically a jobber would be some seriously indulgent shyt. If it was an Omega/Jericho level talent, sure understandable. Put Tye fukking Dillinger?

The AEW women's division is pretty weak, so signing Peyton would be a big boost for them. It's all about people you know, and her husband is there so she has a contact

 

[Hypris]

I don't get why people keep saying it's a sure thing AEW sign Peyton because she's in a relationship with Shawn Spears

I know Tony Khan is a mark for the locker room but signing someone just because they're married to basically a jobber would be some seriously indulgent shyt. If it was an Omega/Jericho level talent, sure understandable. Put Tye fukking Dillinger?

Just like any job, it's not just about talent. It's about who you know. AEW started by signing a lot of guys who are friends and they haven't stopped. Cody helped Spears get in and they had a high profile feud together.

Allie isn't a huge star and her husband got a job with AEW a few months after her. Butcher and Blade were not huge free agents. She even helped get them over as a manager.

Cody got Matt Cardona at least a month on AEW TV and a PPV match. Tazz's son is on TV with him almost every week now. Arn Anderson is developing his son there.

Is it really far fetched to think Shawn Spears can get his wife in a division that desperately needs more personality? Outside of Britt, who is cutting consistently good promos in their division?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Other than Samoa Joe, the outrage you see is more about the reason they supposedly cited than the talent themselves. Roster is still too bloated and they could probably cut about 20-30 more people without it affecting the on-screen product. With that said, saying they're being let go due to "budget cuts" is a fukking joke to put it lightly. They sent out a press release about their income for 2020 and it's insulting to tell talent their being let go due to budget cuts when they made more money in 2020 than 2019 without live crowds for 10 months.

WWE® Reports Record 2020 Results and 2021 Business Outlook

True, but again this isn’t the first time that Vince and Company did some grimey shyt like this. They used budget cuts as the reason during the last round of talent releases even when everybody knew it was a lie. So why be surprised that they used the excuse again?

We all know the true reason why these talent got released and isn’t because of money. So why complain about the “PR” excuse that they used?

 

[THE 101]

The AEW women's division is pretty weak, so signing Peyton would be a big boost for them. It's all about people you know, and her husband is there so she has a contact

Peyton adds very little. Signing her isn't going to boost ratings or get eyeballs. There's probably dozens of women on the indies they could develop themselves.

It's just another pointless WWE reject signing. They need to carve out their own talent and develop their own stars. Peyton isn't some great talent waiting to be discovered after being held down by WWE. She can't wrestle and if you're signing her for promos they should sign her friend instead who has way more charisma.

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

Peyton adds very little. Signing her isn't going to boost ratings or get eyeballs. There's probably dozens of women on the indies they could develop themselves.

It's just another pointless WWE reject signing. They need to carve out their own talent and develop their own stars. Peyton isn't some great talent waiting to be discovered after being held down by WWE. She can't wrestle and if you're signing her for promos they should sign her friend instead who has way more charisma.

Have you seen some of the women AEW have been trotting out? Peyton has the charisma to get over there & is better in the ring than a lot of them.

AEW has been trying for two years to carve out & develop their own stars. So far, it's only worked with Dr. Britt and potentially Kris Statlander. They lucked out with the NWA situation & Thunder Rosa. The problem is that the WWE came in and signed a lot of the talented women's wrestlers. There's no PC for them to develop someone like Bianca Belair out of nowhere, so they're actually throwing these girls into a sink or swim situation. A couple of examples are Jade (swim) and Big Swole (sink).

Tay Conti is carving out her own niche too, and I don't really think people view her as a WWE/NXT reject.

 

[El Guapo]

Everyone’s talking about which org to sign, but which one of them is going to make that call to Conrad If Jeff Jarrett’s getting a podcast, I’m thinking Mickie James gonna say “I can do that too”

 

[THE 101]

Everyone’s talking about which org to sign, but which one of them is going to make that call to Conrad If Jeff Jarrett’s getting a podcast, I’m thinking Mickie James gonna say “I can do that too”

"So chat me up about that time you ruined John Cena's marriage"