2022 Black City Populations ('22 ACS estimates)

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In local parlance, people don't view Essex as basically Newark?

If you're from Sacramento County, you're from Sacramento. If you're from Wake County, you're from Raleigh. Only place I've really lived that challenges this is Virginia, but that's because cities aren't in counties in VA, only state in the country where cities are considered entirely separate from county jurisdiction (though there are a few independent city examples across the US, VA the only state that this is statewide policy)...

I want to link you to this other thread too, maybe you can give me some insight into my inquiry about Newark and Jersey City:


This is a thread about black populations, don't keep that to yourself, dog. Where is it?

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In local parlance, people don't view Essex as basically Newark?

If you're from Sacramento County, you're from Sacramento. If you're from Wake County, you're from Raleigh. Only place I've really lived that challenges this is Virginia, but that's because cities aren't in counties in VA, only state in the country where cities are considered entirely separate from county jurisdiction (though there are a few independent city examples across the US, VA the only state that this is statewide policy)...

I want to link you to this other thread too, maybe you can give me some insight into my inquiry about Newark and Jersey City:


This is a thread about black populations, don't keep that to yourself, dog. Where is it?
Yes and no. A lot of it has to do with race/class. If you are black in Essex County you are tied to Newark one way or another. The variance is how recently your family left.

Others brehs won't appreciate this but you will:

As small as Essex County is, it's to be noted that there are parts that are affluent and have virtually nothing to do with Newark because of the unofficial segregation Jersey has, so simply saying Essex County = Newark wouldn't quite be accurate.

For example, Livingston, Millburn, the Caldwells, Essex Fells, have almost 0 to do with Newark, a different world. Verona, Fairfield, Nutley, Cedar Grove, wouldn't really be associated with Newark, but those are the towns where the Italians ran to when we started taking space in the 60s, so they are descended from Newark.

Montclair, West Orange, Bloomfield, Belleville somewhat fit that bill but have closer proximity and are more diverse. A good deal of Bloomfield and Belleville border North Newark which was a case of Latinos taking over Italians (they ran here too from Newark) so the proximity breeds some claim to it.

South Orange and Maplewood (especially the former) border Newark and is the black middle/upper middle class so the connection to Newark is more apparent.

Orange, East Orange, Irvington are more closely associated with Newark because of proximity and economic class. These are most likely to fit what you're thinking about.
 

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BY CITY PERCENTAGE (TOTAL BLACK)
Detroit 79.5
Birmingham 71.7

Memphis 64.9
Baltimore 63.2

New Orleans 58.9
Baton Rouge 55.5
Cleveland 51

Atlanta 49.9
Newark 49.4
Washington 46
Richmond 45.4
St Louis 45
Columbia 44.3
Norfolk 43.7
Philadelphia 43.1
Hartford 43.1
Rochester 41.9
Cincinnati 41.7
Milwaukee 41

Dayton 39.5
Durham 37.9
Charlotte 37.2
Buffalo 37.2
New Haven 33.4
Jacksonville 33
Indianapolis 32.1
Albany 31.9
Columbus 31.7
Louisville 30.2
Chicago 30

Raleigh 29.5
Kansas City 28.9
Boston 28.8
Nashville 28
Bridgeport 27.9
Orlando 26.8
New York 26.3
Dallas 24.5
Oakland 24
Tampa 23.9
Houston 23.7
Minneapolis 23.1
Jersey City 22.6
Virginia Beach 22.3
Pittsburgh 22.1
Fort Worth 21.4
St Petersburg 20.5
Greenville 20.2

St Paul 19.9
Knoxville 19.4
Tulsa 17.8
Grand Rapids 17.8
Worcester 17.5
Providence 17.2
Oklahoma City 16.9
Charleston 16.8
Sacramento 16
Allentown 15.7
Miami 15.2
Las Vegas 15.1

Omaha 14.6
Tacoma 14.5
United States 14.4
Denver 11.2
Los Angeles 10.3

Madison 9.8
Austin 9.4
Phoenix 9
San Antonio 8.9
Fresno 8.6
Portland 8.5
Seattle 7.9
San Diego 7.7
Bakersfield 7.5
Tucson 7
San Francisco 6.6
Albuquerque 5.5
El Paso 5.5

Salt Lake 4.8
Honolulu 4.4
San Jose 4
Boston up to 28% black wow
 

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Yes and no. A lot of it has to do with race/class. If you are black in Essex County you are tied to Newark one way or another. The variance is how recently your family left.

Others brehs won't appreciate this but you will:

As small as Essex County is, it's to be noted that there are parts that are affluent and have virtually nothing to do with Newark because of the unofficial segregation Jersey has, so simply saying Essex County = Newark wouldn't quite be accurate.

For example, Livingston, Millburn, the Caldwells, Essex Fells, have almost 0 to do with Newark, a different world. Verona, Fairfield, Nutley, Cedar Grove, wouldn't really be associated with Newark, but those are the towns where the Italians ran to when we started taking space in the 60s, so they are descended from Newark.

Montclair, West Orange, Bloomfield, Belleville somewhat fit that bill but have closer proximity and are more diverse. A good deal of Bloomfield and Belleville border North Newark which was a case of Latinos taking over Italians (they ran here too from Newark) so the proximity breeds some claim to it.

South Orange and Maplewood (especially the former) border Newark and is the black middle/upper middle class so the connection to Newark is more apparent.

Orange, East Orange, Irvington are more closely associated with Newark because of proximity and economic class. These are most likely to fit what you're thinking about.
Interesting, thank you for breaking that down. Yeah where I've lived, even amidst white flight and race and class separation, there is no major divide from the central city. It's like that in LA too, it's why you can be from wherever in LA County and you're "from LA"---->none of these outlying places have a strong enough identity without the central city...

That's a cool breakdown on Essex, appreciate that. Is Hudson/Jersey City a similar dynamic?
Boston up to 28% black wow
Yeah, these are total black populations, meaning people who self-identify as black even if "mixed", foreign blacks, etc. When I do these threads I'm going to start leading or simply putting the total black population, as that's what's really representative of a place to me. We all who have been black our entire lives, know most foreigners of African descent identify as black here in the US, most people who are "mixed" with a black parent identify as black here, and giving the black alone tally itself, leaves millions of these people out...

Not to mention many of our freedom fighters and influential figures in this country, were people with a nonblack parent who stood on being BLACK, and that continues to the present. I've just evolved in that, anyone who identifies as black is black, and these ACS estimates are Census numbers, people who self-identify in their blackness. Those who dont, cool, they arent included...

Boston, along with many other major cities, has a large ratio of "other" blacks besides Black American. Plus, I don't know if you've been to Boston, I've been twice, second time back in November/December, there definitely is a lot of Black people there. That 28.8 seems more representative than the 19.8 black alone figure. Similar as Sacramento, and other cities too, you go to Sac and it does not look like a city that's only 12% black (it honestly feels blacker than 16%). So the total black population is much more representative of what walking around the city feels like!

Throw New York and a bunch of other cities in this too, when comparing the black alone to black total figures...
 

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Interesting, thank you for breaking that down. Yeah where I've lived, even amidst white flight and race and class separation, there is no major divide from the central city. It's like that in LA too, it's why you can be from wherever in LA County and you're "from LA"---->none of these outlying places have a strong enough identity without the central city...

That's a cool breakdown on Essex, appreciate that. Is Hudson/Jersey City a similar dynamic?

Yeah, these are total black populations, meaning people who self-identify as black even if "mixed", foreign blacks, etc. When I do these threads I'm going to start leading or simply putting the total black population, as that's what's really representative of a place to me. We all who have been black our entire lives, know most foreigners of African descent identify as black here in the US, most people who are "mixed" with a black parent identify as black here, and giving the black alone tally itself, leaves millions of these people out...

Not to mention many of our freedom fighters and influential figures in this country, were people with a nonblack parent who stood on being BLACK, and that continues to the present. I've just evolved in that, anyone who identifies as black is black, and these ACS estimates are Census numbers, people who self-identify in their blackness. Those who dont, cool, they arent included...

Boston, along with many other major cities, has a large ratio of "other" blacks besides Black American. Plus, I don't know if you've been to Boston, I've been twice, second time back in November/December, there definitely is a lot of Black people there. That 28.8 seems more representative than the 19.8 black alone figure. Similar as Sacramento, and other cities too, you go to Sac and it does not look like a city that's only 12% black (it honestly feels blacker than 16%). So the total black population is much more representative of what walking around the city feels like!

Throw New York and a bunch of other cities in this too, when comparing the black alone to black total figures...
I'm not sure about JC and Hudson County, but probably not, at least for us.

When JC black folks got mobility into the upper middle class, they went further up to Bergen County. Englewood, Teaneck, Hackensack (more middle than upper middle).

But Newark literally was broken up into what is today Essex County through the 1800s. It's the grandmother of the smaller towns.
 

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So Jacksonville the blackest city in Florida. Alotta koons and swirlers don't like Jacksonville because we make you be either black or white! You can be whatever ethnity you want, but you'll choose a side, nikka or cac.
 

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So Jacksonville the blackest city in Florida. Alotta koons and swirlers don't like Jacksonville because we make you be either black or white! You can be whatever ethnity you want, but you'll choose a side, nikka or cac.
There's more black people in Jacksonville than in Miami, Tampa, or Orlando combined!
 
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