2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Warren's whole base is affluent white women. You can't win shyt with that. She's gonna have to rile up minority and young voters or we're stuck with Biden.

you don't know any black women.

Warren is right behind Biden and GROWING.

 

[StatUS]

Coli Bernie bros running identity politics.

I guess being concerned that the second place candidate isn't polling in the right places currently to over take the first place candidate is identity politics.

Biden currently has the right demos to win the Dem nomination but he'll do terrible in the general. Warren is obviously a much better candidate rhetoric wise to over take Trump but if she can't navigate the south and the east over Joe were in trouble again. At this point I can't even bring up Bernie because him winning requires alot of turnout in a younger demo plus a huge change of attention to class consciousness in the electorate. Warren paints that picture enough to be safe to the general public without having to go all the way. But if the mission is to get Joe out the paint and beat Trump she's gotta keep going.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is the typical Warren stan.

Trump lost 2020 when women put the pink p*ssy hats on

The whole Me Too movement is in response to getting Trump out the paint.

This is all one giant chess move

Women will wash anything related to Trump out of office.

Its over.

Get on the Warren train, ASAP.

 

[Pressure]

I guess being concerned that the second place candidate isn't polling in the right places currently to over take the first place candidate is identity politics.

Biden currently has the right demos to win the Dem nomination but he'll do terrible in the general. Warren is obviously a much better candidate rhetoric wise to over take Trump but if she can't navigate the south and the east over Joe were in trouble again. At this point I can't even bring up Bernie because him winning requires alot of turnout in a younger demo plus a huge change of attention to class consciousness in the electorate. Warren paints that picture enough to be safe to the general public without having to go all the way. But if the mission is to get Joe out the paint and beat Trump she's gotta keep going.

Warren is the second choice for a lot of voters. There's nothing to suggest if she wins the primaries voters will not support her.

 

[the next guy]

@FAH1223 no beef with you or the breh @the next guy or Bernie (sans his foreign policy record) for that matter, but them online kids are fukkin nutty

Don`t worry breh I`m not a Bernie stan. I`m surprised so many people are against him though. I guess supporters do matter.

 

[StatUS]

Warren is the second choice for a lot of voters. There's nothing to suggest if she wins the primaries voters will not support her.

I'm gonna be real with yall in here from now on. If this is her time she has to win the south as Obama did. Last time someone took the primary without winning the south was Dukakis and he was facing Jesse. It's almost impossible right now to win without it. I'm also not saying she won't win the general but I'm saying Biden will lose the general if he makes it out. And if he does win his turnout won't be the same as a candidate with the message of Warren which hurts the down ballot. I'm just sounding the alarms now because at this point nothings written in stone yet.

 

[Pressure]

I'm gonna be real with yall in here from now on. If this is her time she has to win the south as Obama did. Last time someone took the primary without winning the south was Dukakis and he was facing Jesse. It's almost impossible right now to win without it. I'm also not saying she won't win the general but I'm saying Biden will lose the general if he makes it out. And if he does win his turnout won't be the same a candidate with the message of Warren which hurts the down ballot.

Clinton won the south.

 

[the next guy]

I feel like she's given up so easy because she thought she was going to get that Obama Stimulus Package like somebody upthread said. She really thought she was going to get the red carpet and thought people were going to believe her disingenuous "Blackness Attitude" and even had the audacity to announce on MLK Day, but she underestimated how much people do their research now and exposed it to low information voters.

She had to be the biggest fall from Grace so far in this presidential run.

I don't even see her lasting long as a US Senator honestly.

I will admit that we have black community purity police, but that busing attack on Biden (which started gaffemania for his campaign) turned off a lot of older black voters like parents.

 

[the next guy]

I'm gonna be real with yall in here from now on. If this is her time she has to win the south as Obama did. Last time someone took the primary without winning the south was Dukakis and he was facing Jesse. It's almost impossible right now to win without it. I'm also not saying she won't win the general but I'm saying Biden will lose the general if he makes it out. And if he does win his turnout won't be the same as a candidate with the message of Warren which hurts the down ballot. I'm just sounding the alarms now because at this point nothings written in stone yet.

I see Biden winning the general breh. The old people will come out for him. The midwest will vote for him. He can win 40 states with Obama on his campaign. It's when he gets into office that's the issue.

 

[King Kreole]

I'm gonna be real with yall in here from now on. If this is her time she has to win the south as Obama did. Last time someone took the primary without winning the south was Dukakis and he was facing Jesse. It's almost impossible right now to win without it. I'm also not saying she won't win the general but I'm saying Biden will lose the general if he makes it out. And if he does win his turnout won't be the same as a candidate with the message of Warren which hurts the down ballot. I'm just sounding the alarms now because at this point nothings written in stone yet.

I think the vast majority of Liz supporters understand she has to win the South. Most of us see her path to victory as winning early states and having black support switch over from Biden to Liz, just as what happened with Obama when he won early states and flipped the black vote from Hillary to himself. I haven't heard anyone talk about winning the Primary with her current levels of black support.

 

[A.R.$]

Don`t worry breh I`m not a Bernie stan. I`m surprised so many people are against him though. I guess supporters do matter.

You have to remember in 2015/2016 he was the only progressive that was brave enough to challenge Hillary Clinton. A lot of his support/voters were people who disliked Hillary, or just thought he was a better option compared to her. It was unrealistic for people to think everyone that supported him in 2016 would support him now. I appreciate what he brought to the party though. He made Medicare For All a big discussion, along with free four year college. He also should get credit on improving his foreign policy positions. I still think he struggles when he talk about specific Black issues.
To be Honest Warren should of ran in 2016. Most progressive groups and even Bernie himself was trying to get her to run. It was a missed opportunity.

 

[StatUS]

Clinton won the south.

Breh she doesn't have to win every single state and every delegate

I'll put it more simply, she has to win in the south more than she's trending right now. Obama won the south enough and chipped away in other states to defeat Hillary. Right now Biden's so far up it's concerning.

 

[StatUS]

I think the vast majority of Liz supporters understand she has to win the South. Most of us see her path to victory as winning early states and having black support switch over from Biden to Liz, just as what happened with Obama when he won early states and flipped the black vote from Hillary to himself. I haven't heard anyone talk about winning the Primary with her current levels of black support.

Obama had been winning some polls in South Carolina before he took off even though Clinton was mostly up. I feel you but she hasn't been up in a single poll there.

 

[Pressure]

Breh she doesn't have to win every single state and every delegate

I'll put it more simply, she has to win in the south more than she's trending right now. Obama won the south enough and chipped away in other states to defeat Hillary. Right now Biden's so far up it's concerning.

It's September 2019.

South Carolina is Feb 29, 2020.

She's been trending just fine.

 

[the next guy]

You have to remember in 2015/2016 he was the only progressive that was brave enough to challenge Hillary Clinton. A lot of his support/voters were people who disliked Hillary, or just thought he was a better option compared to her. It was unrealistic for people to think everyone that supported him in 2016 would support him now. I appreciate what he brought to the party though. He made Medicare For All a big discussion, along with free four year college. He also should get credit on improving his foreign policy positions. I still think he struggles when he talk about specific Black issues.
To be Honest Warren should of ran in 2016. Most progressive groups and even Bernie himself was trying to get her to run. It was a missed opportunity.

This is very true. He did change a lot of things and forced the dems to actually try to help people, rather then not hurt them. I still think Biden pulls this off. We're sitting here going on about 2016 and Bernie Bros, when we should talk about how old black people are propping up the corn pop guy.