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2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Hood Critic
The Power Circle
Competence in what exactly? That is my point. We know where he stands on the handful of Democratic platform issues (Healthcare, Immigration, Gun Control, etc.) but if he's bringing competence to the table, where are the examples? I like some of the things he was able to do while mayor but how are those things translated to the broader country.
I have yet to see him display why he is the person to be president.
storyteller
Veteran
ok...her voters still aren't his. and yall keep saying he'll attract independents but his focus there (which isn't paying off) is at the expense of alienating a block of base voters...sounds like the perfect way to NOT win the primary...you know, the contest primarily made up of democratic voters
His strategy is to target disillusioned potential voters. That includes independents but also millennials, Gen-Z voters and the types who skipped 2016 (4.4 million 2012 Dem voters didn't show up in 2016). Whether that's an effective strategy remains to be seen but since a lot of polling targets "likely voters" is why there's some skepticism about whether or not he's actually "stuck" in second place or if he has a coalition forming that traditional means aren't catching (it would also go a ways to explaining his donor numbers dwarfing everyone else).
Even in the worst case for his own success, the strategy of bringing in younger generations and building a passionate base ought to be advantageous for the long term prospects of the Dems. They just have to not fumble it by poo poo'ing Bernie's policies so aggressively that they alienate or insult the coalition he's built. You could actually see a chunk of Dems at the debates showing that kind of caution while not co-signing him (Pete Buttigeig especially was cautious not to alienate anybody while Booker and Gillebrand moved more in his rhetorical direction).
Also he's actually used his email lists to warn places about ICE strategies before they start raiding an area and to put supporters on to activism and labor movements. This relates less to campaign strategy but to the flat out utility of what he's built. New funding strategies, progressive consultants and candidate advocacy groups have sprouted. This whole thing might not work out to his singular success, but the mechanisms are taking shape to push someone from the Squad or another progressive to win in the future when Gen Z and Millenials are the dominant voting bloc.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Look how healthy this motherfukkers is.
8 years of President Bernie and a lengthy, healthy retirement.
Biden looks like he's ready to keep over tomorrow.
Liz is a nerd, she never did sports.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
For those who aren't Twitter addicts, a memo went out today telling the shills to attack Susan Sarandon because she reminded people that Warren was a Reagan Republican.
Meanwhile. Bernie rules:
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
See?
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
i don't want anyone polling in the top 6-8 to drop out either, but reality looks like warren/bernie (who seem to be playing nice with one another) will get to a point next spring where it will likely be best for the viability of the progressive platform for one of them to drop.
thanks for agreeing...
and there are others who aren't happy with the current party who also don't see him as the answer - i'm a clear member of this faction. no, i wont be backing bernie in the primary, even with a warren endorsement...he'll get my vote if he's the nominee, but not in any contest prior. there is a faction of liz's support - supposedly the "educated elite" - that if she dropped today will deflect to harris, biden, pete.
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You dodged my question because you don’t want to admit to how insane your position is. You rail against Biden all the time and if Warren drops out it will be a Bernie vs. Biden showdown. If you back Biden in that scenario then you proved every single progressive right. Warren is literally running on the same platform as Sanders with “I’ve got a plan” marketing - though the plans have equal details. Those educated elite are college educated white women. You really are telling me you going to ride with the PUMAs who didn’t vote for Obama? You know how nuts that sounds?i don't want anyone polling in the top 6-8 to drop out either, but reality looks like warren/bernie (who seem to be playing nice with one another) will get to a point next spring where it will likely be best for the viability of the progressive platform for one of them to drop.
thanks for agreeing...
and there are others who aren't happy with the current party who also don't see him as the answer - i'm a clear member of this faction. no, i wont be backing bernie in the primary, even with a warren endorsement...he'll get my vote if he's the nominee, but not in any contest prior. there is a faction of liz's support - supposedly the "educated elite" - that if she dropped today will deflect to harris, biden, pete.