2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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The point I'm making is the policy proposal and the policy reality will have differences.

And we agree most of the country wants to move beyond just having private insurance. But that doesn't mean the Sanders M4A plan. It is what it is. Polling reflects that. :manny:
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The job of a leader is to build grassroots support for a good idea. The support for Medicare for all from 2016 until now shows how effective Sanders has been. What happens with the bully pulpit? The polls reflect nothing more than current framing of the issue. Moreover, every single bill is modified as it goes towards implementation - it seems like you’re arguing to just to argue with no actual alternative. People who enjoy their employer plans don’t have the option of all encompassing government sponsored healthcare with lower drug prices. This is like saying the majority of people love their private schools when a well run public school has never existed in their district.
 
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The job of a leader is to build grassroots support for a good idea. The support for Medicare for all from 2016 until now shows how effective Sanders has been. What happens with the bully pulpit? The polls reflect nothing more than current framing of the issue. Moreover, every single bill is modified as it goes towards implementation - it seems like you’re arguing to just to argue with no actual alternative. People who enjoy their employer plans don’t have the option of all encompassing government sponsored healthcare with a lower drug prices. This is like saying the majority of people love their private schools when a well run public school has never existed in their district.
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Absolutely nothing happens unless Dems take back the house and maintains the senate.

What seats do you see progressives picking up in 2020?

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm arguing that the Sanders proposal that eliminates private insurance isn't as popular as a proposal that doesn't.

That's always been the case:comeon:
 
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From February :

In a Hill-HarrisX survey released Thursday, 13 percent of respondents said they would prefer a health care system that covers all citizens and doesn't allow for private plans, an approach that is sometimes referred to as "single-payer."

The most popular option, at 32 percent, consisted of a universal, government-operated system that also would allow people to buy private, supplemental insurance.

Twenty-six percent of respondents said they wanted a government insurance plan offered to all citizens, but one that doesn't compel people with private plans to use it, a system sometimes called a "public option."

A small minority of 15 percent of voters said they wanted the government to completely remove itself from paying for health care, while another 14 percent said they want to keep the existing health care system intact.
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From last month:

There is robust support among Democrats, and even support among Republicans, for an expansion of the Medicare program through a Medicare buy-in or a Medicaid buy-in proposal (Figure 9). In addition, nearly half of Republicans and majorities of independents and Democrats favor an optional Medicare-for-all plan (Figure 10). Yet, it is unclear how much staying power this support has once people become aware of the details of any plan or hear arguments on either side. Current KFF polling finds that Americans know little about how the leading Medicare-for-all proposals would reshape the way all Americans get and pay for health care (Figure 11) and public support for Medicare-for-all shifts significantly when people hear arguments about potential tax increases or delays in medical tests and treatment (Figure 12). KFF polling also shows many people falsely assume they would be able to keep their current health insurance under a single-payer plan (Figure 13), suggesting another potential area for decreased support especially since most supporters (67 percent) of such a proposal think they would be able to keep their current health insurance coverage (Figure 14).

Medicare-for-all, an issue which really gained traction during Bernie Sanders’ run during the 2016 presidential primary, does seem to be on the minds of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents at the beginning of the 2020 primary season. But KFF polling finds more Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents would prefer lawmakers build on the ACA in order to expand coverage and reduce costs rather than replace the ACA with a national Medicare-for-all plan (Figure 15). So while the general idea of a national health plan (whether accomplished through an expansion of Medicare or some other way) may enjoy fairly broad support in the abstract, it remains unclear how this issue will play out in the 2020 election and beyond.
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It seems people just want universal coverage and affordable options.

Beyond that it's a mixed bag. But isn't that what they were asking for in 2008?
 
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From February :




From last month:



It seems people just want universal coverage and affordable options.

Beyond that it's a mixed bag. But isn't that what they were asking for in 2008?
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I didn’t read any of that because I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith :manny:. We can go back and forth with polls all day.
 
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I didn’t read any of that because I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith :manny:. We can go back and forth with polls all day.
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I am arguing in good faith. It's y'all who aren't. Even presented the data to back it up. :russell:
 
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