2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[the next guy]

Joe Biden was Obama’s VP. It’s not that simple. The same reason black people backed swaggerless Al Gore.

Yup this is true. At lot of people want to return to "normal" (what normal? the 2008 recession?)

 

[Pressure]

When Trump gets reelected.

"My African Americans, what do you have to lose?"

That was Trump's version of targeting black voters. Same people who support him running around talking about Tangibles and wonder why I can't take them seriously.

 

[LurkMoar]

They're just repeating conservative talking points that aren't actually based on any actual policy proposals.

Open borders is not a liberal policy, we libertarians now?

 

[Pressure]

Open borders is not a liberal policy, we libertarians now?

No, just a bunch of nikkas engaging in dishonesty.

 

[the next guy]

 

[BillBanneker]

They're just repeating conservative talking points that aren't actually based on any actual policy proposals.

I figured since this was HL I thought this would be based on some evidence. But if its standard tlr soapboxing

 

[the next guy]

I figured since this was HL I thought this would be based on some evidence. But if its standard tlr soapboxing

Nap started a thread on this and he had a huge post on this 2 or 3 pages back I think.

 

[LurkMoar]

No, just a bunch of nikkas engaging in dishonesty.

Weak response, you got nothing for me.

 

[BillBanneker]

Nap started a thread on this and he had a huge post on this 2 or 3 pages back I think.

I got that agent on ignore

 

[Pressure]

Weak response, you got nothing for me.

I've already had this exchange with @Atlrocafella.

Maybe you can do a better job. I doubt it. So let's do it again.

Are you upset that Dem candidates have proposed changing border crossing from a federal misdemeanor to use the civil system to handle these deportations in Immigration court?

Undocumented immigrants are arrested just the same and deported just the same. The only difference is you remove the humanitarian crisis of family separations, longer detention periods, and larger backlogs on an already jammed federal court system when we have special courts specifically designed to deport undocumented immigrants.

ICE is currently doing raids. Almost all of these people will be deported using the civil court system that you are calling open borders.

 

[the next guy]

Uh Oh...

 

[ExodusNirvana]

This isn’t true. Black people are more left leaning on every issue than white people. Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Now if you’re trying to say that we are more conservative in a lot of the LGBTQ stuff then you’d have a point but again, we have voted Democrat for years consistently while not being fully on board. It was Obama who recognized transgenders. Didn’t hurt his standing at all. Most people just think those dudes are weird but vote Democrat anyway.

The thing is, I'm starting to peep that people (and not bots mind you) on social media are starting to have the same views an opinions as those dudes in TLR where they legit think that because the Democratic Party hasn't specifically given Black people anything, that the logical step is to align with the GOP, who is actually actively doing shyt to harm Black people.

They believe that the Dems are specifically catering to LGBTQ folk and illegal immigrants, which in turn is essentially making them the "Black Wing" of the GOP.

These are ideas that are growing and getting louder too...

 

[mastermind]

Yeah, but where is the outreach to black men? I certainly don’t see it.

We get ignored a lot ...... we need more middle class black men to be taken serious. Which on the flip is easier said than done because the whole system is made to keep us from reaching the middle class.

We have to be honest. We aren't as politically active. I hate to say it, but when I go canvassing or attend these rallies its more black women there.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You new to this immigration ish? These critiques always existed from people who actually cared about the issue and were paying attention.

In 2016
Democrats lash out at Obama over immigration raids
"Some immigration advocates complain the push looks like a page out of Donald Trump's playbook"
Democrats lash out at Obama over immigration raids

This is from 2014
Deporter-In-Chief Label Ups the Pressure for Action from Obama
Deporter-In-Chief Label Ups the Pressure for Action from Obama

i've posted more on illegal immigration and black america than anyone else on this forum

 

[Pressure]

i've posted more on illegal immigration and black america than anyone else on this forum

This is why I'm so apathetic on this issue.