2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Hood Critic]

Word? Why not? What are the consequences of telling him to kick rocks?

That $200M goes to opposing party the next several elections.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

That $200M goes to opposing party the next several elections.

OK, if all they wanted was influence over policy I wouldn't want their money.
Are people really cool with corporations running the country via proxy? I'm not, we need to move away from that IMO. That's why some candidates don't take corporate/PAC money, right?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

In the case we are talking about grandma didn't write me a check she wrote my Mom one. And then Mom gave the funds to me due to me winning a competition amongst my siblings. So yeah if I write a thank you it will be to my Mom.

...you're trying so hard. so the DNC only collects corporate money during the primaries - a "blind" donation for the pot of candidates?

breh, whoever wins the nom, the DNC (and their campaign, but we won't even go there) will be fundraising on behalf of,\. if your mental gymnastics allow you wash away the source of the money because it went into a DNC account first, please carry on, but that doesn't change the reality of who lined your pockets and who will come looking for a thank you.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

OK, if all they wanted was influence over policy I wouldn't want their money.
Are people really cool with corporations running the country via proxy? I'm not, we need to move away from that IMO. That's why some candidates don't take corporate/PAC money, right?

in an ideal world, yes, but a campaign easily costs $700M - $1b+, that's not coming from small individual/every day donors.

 

[Pressure]

I have no clue who y'all are talking to, but it's hilarious from this one sided perspective

 

[AnonymityX1000]

...you're trying so hard. so the DNC only collects corporate money during the primaries - a "blind" donation for the pot of candidates?

breh, whoever wins the nom, the DNC (and their campaign, but we won't even go there) will be fundraising on behalf of,\. if your mental gymnastics allow you wash away the source of the money because it went into a DNC account first, please carry on, but that doesn't change the reality of who lined your pockets and who will come looking for a thank you.

So you're not trying as hard as me I guess.

Hopefully not, what's the point of not taking corporate money during the primary then?
A lot of candidates aren't. Why? Just for shyts and gigs?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

in an ideal world, yes, but a campaign easily costs $700M - $1b+, that's not coming from small individual/every day donors.

Yeah, isn't that the point of politics? To try and make the world as ideal as possible? You have to start somewhere.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

So you're not trying as hard as me I guess.

Hopefully not, what's the point of not taking corporate money during the primary then?
A lot of candidates aren't. Why? Just for shyts and gigs?

to your first question, no, i'm not, i'm able to be honest about where the money came from. you've attempted multiple ways to rationalize that the source disappears when it clears bank account x before clearing yours


to the bolded, pretty much. there is some sincerity to connect with people and make us feel like the power is in our hands, that's how you build a coalition in the primaries. but it's really some virtue signaling bull because they will turn around when the general hits (possibly before that if they're a contender late in the primaries but running out of dough) and take money from wherever it comes from. the every day citizens of the US - a population that doesn't even bother to vote - certainly won't be the machine behind funding a $700M+ campaign

Yeah, isn't that the point of politics? To try and make the world as ideal as possible? You have to start somewhere.

no, the point of politics isn't to make the world ideal. sorry if that's your belief

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I have no clue who y'all are talking to, but it's hilarious from this one sided perspective

lol, jayshiggs

 

[AnonymityX1000]

to your first question, no, i'm not, i'm able to be honest about where the money came from. you've attempted multiple ways to rationalize that the source disappears when it clears bank account x before clearing yours


to the bolded, pretty much. there is some sincerity to connect with people and make us feel like the power is in our hands, that's how you build a coalition in the primaries. but it's really some virtue signaling bull because they will turn around when the general hits (possibly before that if they're a contender late in the primaries but running out of dough) and take money from wherever it comes from. the every day citizens of the US - a population that doesn't even bother to vote - certainly won't be the machine behind funding a $700M+ campaign


no, the point of politics isn't to make the world ideal. sorry if that's your belief

I respectfully disagree. They are virtue signaling but also trying to promote a better way to do politics. The insane amounts spent are a waste and could be used differently. We really should have public funding equal to all candidates so that ideas is all that wins not money. You against that idea or candidates trying to move toward that? I'm not.
What's the point of politics then if not to progress to a better society?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

lol, jayshiggs

You shouldn't have told him, he has me on ignore for a reason. lol

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Are you worried about Warren and Bernie splitting the vote to give Biden the win?

Not at all.

Let me answer that for him:

Bernie isn't a Democrat.

There we go.

 

[Hood Critic]

OK, if all they wanted was influence over policy I wouldn't want their money.
Are people really cool with corporations running the country via proxy? I'm not, we need to move away from that IMO. That's why some candidates don't take corporate/PAC money, right?

Obviously only those benefiting are cool with the idea, that is a pretty dumb question.

The point is it is asinine and a waste of time for a candidate to claim they aren't taking corporate or PAC money in an attempt to demonstrate their political integrity. Especially when we know the nominee is going to follow a platform developed by the party, the same party who will almost certainly turn not a single dollar away no matter who it came from. It also is not the only way a candidate could be influenced to hold the interest of others before their constituency or the country, see comrade nothing berder as an example.

I personally don't care where the campaign contributions come from as long as they are transparently documented and the candidates actions are justifiably for the overall betterment of the majority rather than the few.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

What's the point of politics then if not to progress to a better society?

politics is about communal governance. you want organizations dedicated to a better society? there are tons of religions and non-profits working toward that.

furthermore, "better" becomes subjective when dealing with policy as there is always more than one view. you acquiesce one side and another feels like things got worse

 

[the cac mamba]

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