The AG of California aint gonna be some weak cookie. Especially for MILLIONS of people!
The hell are we talking about right now?
The hell are we talking about right now?
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Show me a "progressive" prosecutor. 
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The pleas that are being copped for Kamala
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Since I knew she was a piece of shyt and a fraud, I wasn’t expecting anything other than this from her. However, other progressives were expecting a lot more from a woman who claims to care about criminal legal reform. When she has a record as punitive as the average "Tough on Crime" Republican prosecutor, then we’re beyond the “she was a prosecutor” retort.
Did you read the article? No, seriously your rebuttable is insufficient, which doesn’t surprise me because you don’t strike me as someone who knows anything about the criminal legal system or even cares for that matter. This isn't your first time being on the wrong side of a criminal legal issue (see TLR Mike Brown thread).
Anyway, we’re just talking about basic things in her record as a prosecutor. We aren’t talking about her benefactor Steve Mnuchin. We aren’t bringing up her position on Civil Asset Forfeiture. We aren’t discussing the foreclosure fiasco that FAH1223 mentioned in his post. We’re not going to bring up actual San Francisco dirt because her record is so horrendous and indefensible that it’d be obfuscating.
This was a warning shot kiddo. You better back Robert O’Rourke because if that’s your deliberative response to an author who is critical yet reconciliatory, then Kamala’s camp in the same spot as Tulsi’s.
It's not even about being progressive, it's about being a fair/just prosecutor....Show me a "progressive" prosecutor.
When she has a record as punitive as the average "Tough on Crime" Republican prosecutor, then we’re beyond the “she was a prosecutor” retort.
Given the excerpts from her memoir, she's not someone prone to introspective thoughts.
She already has the Three Strikes on her record, all she needs is Stop and Frisk and she could be the GOP frontrunner for 2024.
For the record, I hope you and all other Kamala supporters get wrongfully convicted of a crime and the prosecution uses technicalities and outright corruption to keep you all incarcerated. No big deal right? Actually, I don’t but that’s the only thing that seems to get through to people like you who ignore black victims.
Dude, this whole criminal justice reform thing didn't pop off until like 2014.Since I knew she was a piece of shyt and a fraud, I wasn’t expecting anything other than this from her. However, other progressives were expecting a lot more from a woman who claims to care about criminal legal reform. When she has a record as punitive as the average "Tough on Crime" Republican prosecutor, then we’re beyond the “she was a prosecutor” retort.
Did you read the article? No, seriously your rebuttable is insufficient, which doesn’t surprise me because you don’t strike me as someone who knows anything about the criminal legal system or even cares for that matter. This isn't your first time being on the wrong side of a criminal legal issue (see TLR Mike Brown thread).
Anyway, we’re just talking about basic things in her record as a prosecutor. We aren’t talking about her benefactor Steve Mnuchin. We aren’t bringing up her position on Civil Asset Forfeiture. We aren’t discussing the foreclosure fiasco that FAH1223 mentioned in his post. We’re not going to bring up actual San Francisco dirt because her record is so horrendous and indefensible that it’d be obfuscating.
This was a warning shot kiddo. You better back Robert O’Rourke because if that’s your deliberative response to an author who is critical yet reconciliatory, then Kamala’s camp in the same spot as Tulsi’s.
It's not even about being progressive, it's about being a fair/just prosecutor....
When she has a record as punitive as the average "Tough on Crime" Republican prosecutor, then we’re beyond the “she was a prosecutor” retort.
Given the excerpts from her memoir, she's not someone prone to introspective thoughts.
She already has the Three Strikes on her record, all she needs is Stop and Frisk and she could be the GOP frontrunner for 2024.
For the record, I hope you and all other Kamala supporters get wrongfully convicted of a crime and the prosecution uses technicalities and outright corruption to keep you all incarcerated. No big deal right? Actually, I don’t but that’s the only thing that seems to get through to people like you who ignore black victims.
This is the problem with people like Bernie Sanders. He gets to represent small, unimportant ass Vermont next to fukking Canada while Kamala literally rises to the top in the largest, arguably most important state in the country and then we have to act like she also has to be the softest cookie on crime in a place thats rampant with crime.
I'm saying yall are being unrealistic.
Show me an attorney general prosecutor in a state thats worth a damn and I'll show you someone who is universally unpopular.
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Larry Krasner for AG of the US then.
So Attorney General of a state trumps Federal Representative for decades?
Real quick, who is the attorney general of Cali right now and what policies have they enacted
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Deflections & Apologetics: The Life of a Kamala Supporter.
Moreover, it doesn’t excuse her pretending to be some type of criminal legal advocate when it’s demonstrably clear she was the polar opposite.
We're talking about the punitive prosecutions of Kamala "the Jailer" Harris. Her record was in line with Tough on Crime GOPers while she was a prosecutor in a liberal city and AG of the most liberal state in the country.
We're talking about her keeping innocent people behind bars, what does that have to do with rampant crime?
We're talking about her being against police body cams, what does that have to do with rampant crime? Ever hear of Laquan McDonald? Do you know how is murderer was brought to justice?
We're talking about supporting the prosecutions of lower-income parents of truant students, what does that have to do with rampant crime? I'm sure they can afford the fine levied against them and they can afford to miss work at whatever bullshyt hearing is scheduled.
Again, that's an insufficient argument and your overall ability to address these criticisms is strikingly pathetic.
Nice GOP talking point, by the way, the use of the phrase "rampant crime" is a dog whistle.
Your spiel is akin to Blues Lives Matter: “Police have a hard job [so it’s okay if they kill unarmed black men].”
Like I said this is just the first wave of issues being brought up about her record. She should have never looked for a national stage if her defense force was so ill-prepared to defend her record.
Sorry centrists some of us aren’t swayed by tokenism and performative wokeness.
That's not true and her record extends past 2014 so that's not wouldn't even be a valid excuse.
Moreover, it doesn’t excuse her pretending to be some type of criminal legal advocate when it’s demonstrably clear she was the polar opposite.
Non-sequitur. Additionally, I'm not a Democratic Socialist or a Bernie supporter so why even bring him up?
We're talking about the punitive prosecutions of Kamala "the Jailer" Harris. Her record was in line with Tough on Crime GOPers while she was a prosecutor in a liberal city and AG of the most liberal state in the country.
We're talking about her keeping innocent people behind bars, what does that have to do with rampant crime?
We're talking about her being against police body cams, what does that have to do with rampant crime? Ever hear of Laquan McDonald? Do you know how is murderer was brought to justice?
We're talking about supporting the prosecutions of lower-income parents of truant students, what does that have to do with rampant crime? I'm sure they can afford the fine levied against them and they can afford to miss work at whatever bullshyt hearing is scheduled.
Again, that's an insufficient argument and your overall ability to address these criticisms is strikingly pathetic.
Nice GOP talking point, by the way, the use of the phrase "rampant crime" is a dog whistle.
Again, people like you don't care about black victims and it's routinely demonstrated in your rhetoric.
Your spiel is akin to Blues Lives Matter: “Police have a hard job [so it’s okay if they kill unarmed black men].”
Like I said this is just the first wave of issues being brought up about her record. She should have never looked for a national stage if her defense force was so ill-prepared to defend her record.
Sorry centrists some of us aren’t swayed by tokenism and performative wokeness.
you can't read.
The criminal justice reform movement didn't start making moves until 2014.
because progressives hate anyone who opposes Bernie. Thats why yall can dig up instances of a prosecutor being harsh and use it to attempt to define her whole career.
Scumbag shyt from tankie communists.
Yes you are.
You seem to not understand the criminal justice reform movement, prosecutorial mandates, and sentencing guidelines, do you?
Funny how Kamala is the only prosecutor you can think of who was hard on crime.
I dare you to name another one you scrutinize this much.
And she evolved. Whats your point?
California is too big and powerful to just let people say that this was just truant kids.
Show me the cases. Directly. Cause a lot of that was bullshyt framing to undermine her.
Thats the prosecutor's job.
Show me where she did that to first time offenders or if there weren't other complications.
The AG isn't doing street level indictments personally.
California is a beast with crime.
Play with that if you want to. IDGAF. Some of yall don't live in reality.
You want softer sentences? Fine. But don't act like Cali is just a land of peace and unity like that.
You stupid motherfukker. I AM BLACK.
Ad hominem.
And, no its not.
I can't wait to get Bernie up out the paint.
You're a fool and you let some anecdotes dictate a prosecutor's ENTIRE career.
Lemme see you do that for these former prosecutors:
Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Leahy, Whitehouse, Bluementhal, Doug Jones, Udall, and Masto
The Bernie Bros been attacking a woman doing her goddamn job as if a prosector is ever going to be "weak" or "soft" on crime in fukking CALIFORNIA.
ARE YOU DUMB?
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
Not true. I support Warren. Am still Progressive.
Kamala Harris has a shyt record compared to someone like Larry Krasner. And the excuse of "criminal justice reform didn't kick off until 2014" is a vapid excuse. She's claiming to be a black woman representing black people in the most liberal state in the Union. She should have been on that wave before it became popular. She chose not to. In fact, she let Mnunchin off and now he's Director of OMB and Acting Chief of Staff.
Kamala is as good of an Obama pick as Merrick Garland.
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IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
@tru_m.a.c can Nap just be banned from every thread except his Russia one? he shyts up every subject with his insanity and he posts off-topic in his russia thread anyway. let that be his little containment zone.
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you can't read.
The criminal justice reform movement didn't start making moves until 2014.
because progressives hate anyone who opposes Bernie. Thats why yall can dig up instances of a prosecutor being harsh and use it to attempt to define her whole career.
Scumbag shyt from tankie communists.
Yes you are.
You seem to not understand the criminal justice reform movement, prosecutorial mandates, and sentencing guidelines, do you?
Funny how Kamala is the only prosecutor you can think of who was hard on crime.
I dare you to name another one you scrutinize this much.
And she evolved. Whats your point?
California is too big and powerful to just let people say that this was just truant kids.
Show me the cases. Directly. Cause a lot of that was bullshyt framing to undermine her.
Thats the prosecutor's job.
Show me where she did that to first time offenders or if there weren't other complications.
The AG isn't doing street level indictments personally.
California is a beast with crime.
Play with that if you want to. IDGAF. Some of yall don't live in reality.
You want softer sentences? Fine. But don't act like Cali is just a land of peace and unity like that.
You stupid motherfukker. I AM BLACK.
Ad hominem.
And, no its not.
I can't wait to get Bernie up out the paint.
You're a fool and you let some anecdotes dictate a prosecutor's ENTIRE career.
Lemme see you do that for these former prosecutors:
Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Leahy, Whitehouse, Bluementhal, Doug Jones, Udall, and Masto
The Bernie Bros been attacking a woman doing her goddamn job as if a prosector is ever going to be "weak" or "soft" on crime in fukking CALIFORNIA.
ARE YOU DUMB?
Miss me with that bullshyt.
I was going to do another point by point response to your drivel, but that isn’t necessary because I would be reiterating my last post, which was ostensibly me reiterating the article.
You have continually demonstrated how far out of your depth you are on this issue which is why you refuse to engage with Lara Bazelon’s piece. This doesn’t surprise me because you’re intellectually dishonest and have a hard time admitting you're wrong, which is the mark of a fragile ego. Tulsi’s supporters have done a much better job addressing her criticisms than you have for Kamala.
You don’t know anything about criminal legal reform and that has been demonstrated in all your dismissive and ignorant responses in this thread. Moreover, your mere word choice tips that off, which wouldn't be a problem if you were sincere about your lack of knowledge. You don’t understand what prosecutorial discretion is, which is why you think what she did is merely a function of being a part of the system.
Next, I never said you weren't black. Many posters on this website don't believe you're black, but that's not what I said. I said your ilk doesn't care about black victims and this is true. Whether you're black is irrelevant to that statement and you’d know that if you weren’t a proponent of tokenism.
Finally, you have yet to address a single critique laid out in the author’s piece. Do that, without non-sequiturs, and then I’ll assume your ready for a serious discussion... I may even answer your previously stated non-sequiturs about other prosecutors and Bernie.
I don't actually expect you to address the piece... If you could do that, then you would have done so initially.
Oh and there are more critiques about her on the way.