2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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maybe if he has to own a recessionI just don't see how Trump is going to lose in 2020.
DNC has no problem with him going on FOX
1. You are right, I'm struggling to see how Bernie combats it. He can raise money, he can probably raise hundreds of millions with the grassroots operation he has established and building up. But the dark money, the Super PACs, etc... they are what ultimately flipped WI, PA, MI
2. Polls show that but paradoxically, Bernie himself is viewed much more favorably.
Bernie is a weird candidate in a general election.
Older Dem voters think he'll get washed like McGovern in 1972 but Trump isn't popular esp in the swing states in the upper Midwest, Bernie is.
Young voters love Bernie but young people don't vote
Trump isn't popular in the midwest, yet he is tied with Bernie in his head-to-head state matchups. Ideally Bernie should be up 8-10 pts right now considering the Koch scare machine hasn't started yet. Trump has even left Bernie alone. For some reason the other side seems welcoming of a matchup with Bernie. It will also be interesting who's side the "mainstream" media willl take. Right now WaPo seems intent on getting Bernie out the paint. Is the media going to be another obstacle for Bernie even against Trump???
Trump isn't popular in the midwest, yet he is tied with Bernie in his head-to-head state matchups. Ideally Bernie should be up 8-10 pts right now considering the Koch scare machine hasn't started yet. Trump has even left Bernie alone. For some reason the other side seems welcoming of a matchup with Bernie. It will also be interesting who's side the "mainstream" media willl take. Right now WaPo seems intent on getting Bernie out the paint. Is the media going to be another obstacle for Bernie even against Trump???
On RCP and Emerson, of the polls in head to head..
Bernie is up 4 points in Wisconsin.
Bernie is up 8 points in Michigan.
Bernie is up 10 points in Pennsylvania.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Michigan: Trump vs. Sanders
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Sanders
Poll: Biden, Sanders hold double-digit lead on Trump in Pennsylvania
And Bernie is doing that townhall in PA.
It’s early as hell but if Trump is gonna have double digit disapproval as he’s had since 2017, it’s a great place to start.
Certain outlets will absolutely trash Bernie and try to get him the fukk outta here.
However I feel in a general election whoever the Dem nominee is going to be running against the media. Why? Cause they love Trump’s scandals and constant reality TV show BS.
JoogJoint
In my own league.
The poor man's Sherrod Brown is entering the field
Did we need him to do this though?
JoogJoint
In my own league.
DNC has no problem with him going on FOX
1. You are right, I'm struggling to see how Bernie combats it. He can raise money, he can probably raise hundreds of millions with the grassroots operation he has established and building up. But the dark money, the Super PACs, etc... they are what ultimately flipped WI, PA, MI
2. Polls show that but paradoxically, Bernie himself is viewed much more favorably.
Bernie is a weird candidate in a general election.
Older Dem voters think he'll get washed like McGovern in 1972 but Trump isn't popular esp in the swing states in the upper Midwest, Bernie is.
Young voters love Bernie but young people don't vote
It's actually smart. Widen your chances. He's already flipped some Trump supporters before Hillary and the DNC derailed him.
intra vires
Glory to Michigan
Did we need him to do this though?
Depends.
Do you think we need somebody like Sherrod Brown, but worse on policy and not nearly as charming?
No.
It's not like he can even parlay this into beating Portman in 2022.
intra vires
Glory to Michigan
I'll never rock with a New Democrat but
I just don't see how Trump is going to lose in 2020.
The Dems are going to cannibalize themselves and by the time it's over Trump might win another close one. Especially if the DNC puts out a weak candidate like 2 years ago
New Mexico joins the National Popular vote compact
New Mexico gov signs bill granting electoral votes to national popular vote winner
New Mexico gov signs bill granting electoral votes to national popular vote winner
If 20 more states join this, or have over 35 states abandoning the Electoral College altogether, then things will truly change.
storyteller
Veteran
It's hard for me to believe that this could be the dude who runs interference and becomes the spoiler...but Trump's kinda the proof we gotta take even the dumbest cats seriously if they have enough money or backing.
levitate
I love you, you know.
It's gonna be Bernie/Beto and Trump will refer to them as The B Team.
Dems will win the popular vote by 6-10 million...but still lose the electoral vote in a tight race...
Dems will win the popular vote by 6-10 million...but still lose the electoral vote in a tight race...
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Backs up what a few of us have been saying. Democrats are trying to bridge too wide of a coalition. Don’t know why some of y’all, not you, seem to keep thinking everyone is on board with candidates like Bernie and warren. Personally I’d welcome a full fledged third party in our government, I think that’s the only way things start getting done