20 years ago today potential NY b-ball legend, Karlton Hines, was murdered by Pistol Pete

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yes...i believe when Pistol Pete went to Rikers he started the SMM (Sex Money Murda) chapter of the Bloods...essentially the first official Bloods in the Northeast.

I'm not postitive, but I think thats what they were saying in the Documentary I watched.. I think it was one of those Nat Geo Docs done with help from former law enforcement..

*edit heres the one I saw and yeah he was a Blood



:snoop: I thought yall was sayin Karlton Hines was a Blood:bryan:

I got mixed up:snoop:
 
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This thread aint about pistol pete?

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Have no idea what's being discussed in this thread, but I enjoyed reading the first page :obama:
 

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Wonder what the beef was with SMM?

No one ever mentions it
 
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I thought og mack started the bloods as far as new york goes?

Pistol pete and karlton were prolly beefing over drug money....

Bx has pistol pete who run with fat joe and peter rollack
 
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I thought og mack started the bloods as far as new york goes?

Pistol pete and karlton were prolly beefing over drug money....

Bx has pistol pete who run with fat joe and peter rollack

Yeah but when you getting guap at the level Karlton was getting it...there shouldn't be any beef over money..for what?

TS Pistol pete is he as thorough as SMM Pistol Pete?
 
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Yeah but when you getting guap at the level Karlton was getting it...there shouldn't be any beef over money..for what?

TS Pistol pete is he as thorough as SMM Pistol Pete?

Smm pistol pete was a savage breh...where as karlton was more of a fly boy type...karlton didnt have that savage that pete had in him...compare puff to dmx in terms of styles...

Karlton people were no match...

Smm Pete probably wanted to extort him...

As far as ts pistol pete,from my knowledge he was out there as well...

They were rumors that he was/is extorting joe...
 

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Smm pistol pete was a savage breh...where as karlton was more of a fly boy type...karlton didnt have that savage that pete had in him...compare puff to dmx in terms of styles...

Karlton people were no match...

Smm Pete probably wanted to extort him...

As far as ts pistol pete,from my knowledge he was out there as well...

They were rumors that he was/is extorting joe...

Yeah i can see that about the crews and the contrast... i was thinking that was the angle too(SMM trying to extort him)

I give robbers or extorters no credit... bs
 
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Smm pistol pete was a savage breh...where as karlton was more of a fly boy type...karlton didnt have that savage that pete had in him...compare puff to dmx in terms of styles...

Karlton people were no match...

Smm Pete probably wanted to extort him...

As far as ts pistol pete,from my knowledge he was out there as well...

They were rumors that he was/is extorting joe...

Pete’s tendency to resolve business disputes with his pistol caught up with him in late 1995. The details of the story came to light in a series of articles in The New York Times, which were published during the 2000 trial of Pistol Pete.
The Times recounted how Karlton Hines, who was a basketball star at Syracuse University, owed Pete some money for drugs. Karlton decided not to pay what he owed. It was a bad choice. One day, Pete spotted Karlton standing outside a stereo shop on Boston Road. Karlton was with a friend of his named Carlos Mestre. They were waiting while Karlton had a new stereo installed in his car. Pistol Pete opened fire at the two men, killing Karlton and wounding Carlos. Pete didn’t mean to hit Carlos. But Pete’s policy was to spray lead everywhere, which meant Carlos got hit because he associated with the wrong people.
Two months later, Pistol Pete finished the job on Carlos Mestre. Pete had nothing against Carlos personally, but Carlos’ status had changed. Now he was a witness to the murder of Karlton Hines. Which meant Carlos had to die. As Carlos walked out of a Bronx hip-hop store called Jew Man, Pistol Pete gunned him down.
The police got a tip and arrested Pete for murder a few days later. The tip came from David Gonzales, Pete’s old drug running buddy, who was hacked off at Pete because Pete had been shaking Gonzales down for money. When he was arrested, as usual, Pete had a gun on him. Possession of a gun demanded a mandatory eight-month jail sentence, which Pete served at the Rikers Island Correctional Facility. When the eight months were up, his mother bailed him out so he could walk free while he awaited trial for the murder charge.

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Pete’s tendency to resolve business disputes with his pistol caught up with him in late 1995. The details of the story came to light in a series of articles in The New York Times, which were published during the 2000 trial of Pistol Pete.
The Times recounted how Karlton Hines, who was a basketball star at Syracuse University, owed Pete some money for drugs. Karlton decided not to pay what he owed. It was a bad choice. One day, Pete spotted Karlton standing outside a stereo shop on Boston Road. Karlton was with a friend of his named Carlos Mestre. They were waiting while Karlton had a new stereo installed in his car. Pistol Pete opened fire at the two men, killing Karlton and wounding Carlos. Pete didn’t mean to hit Carlos. But Pete’s policy was to spray lead everywhere, which meant Carlos got hit because he associated with the wrong people.
Two months later, Pistol Pete finished the job on Carlos Mestre. Pete had nothing against Carlos personally, but Carlos’ status had changed. Now he was a witness to the murder of Karlton Hines. Which meant Carlos had to die. As Carlos walked out of a Bronx hip-hop store called Jew Man, Pistol Pete gunned him down.
The police got a tip and arrested Pete for murder a few days later. The tip came from David Gonzales, Pete’s old drug running buddy, who was hacked off at Pete because Pete had been shaking Gonzales down for money. When he was arrested, as usual, Pete had a gun on him. Possession of a gun demanded a mandatory eight-month jail sentence, which Pete served at the Rikers Island Correctional Facility. When the eight months were up, his mother bailed him out so he could walk free while he awaited trial for the murder charge.

http://thehoodup.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=711761#.U0SQlF5hNuY
i think it was then that Pete started the Bloods joint in NY. @360dagod yes, you're probably right. i believe Pete & OG Mack linked up in Rikers, and then SMM began from there, if i'm not mistaken. that Nat Geo documentary clears it up actually.

:dead: @ Pete being sentenced to life in prison PLUS 105 years.
 
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