2/22 FOX/ESPN PPV | Wilder vs Fury II

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man dont nobody wanna see 2 more fights.

Wilder is champion so standard he'd get a rematch and cause most agree Fury won the first fight it would have to be 2 way. That doesn't mean 100 percent another fight happens, the loser could decide not to take it, but they'd have that option if they wanted. If Fury get blasted out by Wilder badly he may not want another 1. Wilder will probably take his clause because he'd always feel like he could have the chance of landing, even if he loses widely I could see him exercising his contractual right cause he will always believe he has a chance. There's a chance Fury pulls out if he gets knocked out extremely badly, he may just say it's 1-1 and leave it there rather than risk getting knocked out badly again.
 

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Oh and Fury said he has 3 fights left on his deal with ESPN. 2 Wilder fights and the another 1.
 

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Wilder is champion so standard he'd get a rematch and cause most agree Fury won the first fight it would have to be 2 way. That doesn't mean 100 percent another fight happens, the loser could decide not to take it, but they'd have that option if they wanted. If Fury get blasted out by Wilder badly he may not want another 1. Wilder will probably take his clause because he'd always feel like he could have the chance of landing, even if he loses widely I could see him exercising his contractual right cause he will always believe he has a chance. There's a chance Fury pulls out if he gets knocked out extremely badly, he may just say it's 1-1 and leave it there rather than risk getting knocked out badly again.

First fight had a 2 way rematch clause.. Had nothing to do with who thought who won.. Same with this fight.. And when Wilder wins it wont be 1-1.. If Fury dont take a 3rd fight he would have never beaten Wilder and has to hold the L or come back to try n get KTFO out again
 

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First fight had a 2 way rematch clause.. Had nothing to do with who thought who won.. Same with this fight.. And when Wilder wins it wont be 1-1.. If Fury dont take a 3rd fight he would have never beaten Wilder and has to hold the L or come back to try n get KTFO out again

This is actually incorrect, it did have a 2 way rematch clause but there was nothing written in about the draw. The new contract has a 2 way rematch clause whether win, lose or draw for either.
 

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This is actually incorrect, it did have a 2 way rematch clause but there was nothing written in about the draw. The new contract has a 2 way rematch clause whether win, lose or draw for either.

How you gonna say its incorrect then basically agree with me.. It had a 2 way rematch clause in the 1st fight LIKE I SAID... you're now claiming there's a rematch clause in this fight cause people think Fury won the first fight which is grossly incorrect
 

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How you gonna say its incorrect then basically agree with me.. It had a 2 way rematch clause in the 1st fight LIKE I SAID... you're now claiming there's a rematch clause in this fight cause people think Fury won the first fight which is grossly incorrect

It's incorrect because the rematch clause was for win or lose, it didn't include the draw. The next fight and the 1 after isn't happening because there was a rematch clause, it became void after it was a draw. This has happened in fight history before. They had a new contract which included a 2 way rematch clause win, lose or draw. If you're saying most people didn't think Fury won the first fight you're delusional. It's standard that the champion has the rematch clause not the challenger, these are basics man, it's a 2 way clause because of the situation of the first fight with people thinking Fury won...

To simplify, if Wilder won the first fight they’d be 1 more fight not 2 and also the other way around. This is a new contract which is why it’s 2 more unless the loser pulls out.
 
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It's incorrect because the rematch clause was for win or lose, it didn't include the draw. The next fight and the 1 after isn't happening because there was a rematch clause, it became void after it was a draw. This has happened in fight history before. They had a new contract which included a 2 way rematch clause. If you're saying most people didn't think Fury won the first fight you're delusional. It's standard that the champion has the rematch clause not the challenger, these are basics man, it's 2 way because of the situation of the first fight with people thinking Fury won...
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I never specified what the rematch clause was for.. so no I wasn't incorrect.. AGAIN The 1st fight was a 2 way rematch clause LIKE I SAID..

none of that dumb shyt you talking about as far as "the standard" applied to Wilder and Fury in any of their fights since Fury was considered the Lineal champ and still is... This is why the challenger had a rematch clause in the 1st fight and he has the same in the 2nd fight since the first ended in a stalemate.. Nothing to do with any of that dumb shyt about who anyone thought won. thats irrelevant. your OPINION of who you thought won dont supercede the FACT that it was a draw
 

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May be his father John Fury's influence, I had the impression he hasn't liked Ben for a while reading between the lines then after the Wallin fight there was a big outburst he made on BT Sport, there's a small clip of it here for anybody interested...

Wonder how this will effect the fight and who his new coach will be, will he go back to Freddy Roach? Will his father do it considering he was a boxer, or his uncle Peter Fury again. should be interesting...

 

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Tyson Fury has parted company with his trainer Ben Davison.

The pair have been together for five fights, including Fury's draw with Deontay Wilder last year.

Fury is expected to fight Wilder again in 2020 and will be looking for a new trainer ahead of the potential bout.

Davison has played a pivotal role in Fury's career and helped the 31-year-old overcome issues with his mental health, drink and drugs prior to his return.
 

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Wilder is a weird fighter...he dnt seem to have that dog in him too much...he is too dependent on his right hand...in the Fury right he was well on his way to being UD’d before that bomb. Then Fury got up and put hands on Wilder that had Wilder “running”. Fury hurt Wilder a couple times but let him off the hook.

I think Fury will lose this fight tho..Fury is not offensive minded enough and Wilder will eventually catch him.

I think the key to beating Wilder is to to attack him on the inside and midrange..(I haven’t really seen a fighter try that) yea you can try to outbox him but that shyt seem foolish since he only needs to touch you once to cut the lights off. You got to attack Wilder and can’t let him set up with that right hand. Fury going to get KO’D tho...
 

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Wilder is a weird fighter...he dnt seem to have that dog in him too much...he is too dependent on his right hand...in the Fury right he was well on his way to being UD’d before that bomb. Then Fury got up and put hands on Wilder that had Wilder “running”. Fury hurt Wilder a couple times but let him off the hook.

I think Fury will lose this fight tho..Fury is not offensive minded enough and Wilder will eventually catch him.

I think the key to beating Wilder is to to attack him on the inside and midrange..(I haven’t really seen a fighter try that) yea you can try to outbox him but that shyt seem foolish since he only needs to touch you once to cut the lights off. You got to attack Wilder and can’t let him set up with that right hand. Fury going to get KO’D tho...

It will be interesting to see when Wilder gets under some pressure from some bigger hitters and more elite guys, he got dropped by Sconiers who has like 27 losses and pretty much by Nichols who has 13 losses and who looked morbidly obese, he'd make Ruiz look like a featherweight.

Will be interesting if Fury's new trainer adopts a more offensive style and game plan for him. If it's Freddy Roach I heard him saying he thinks Fury can knock Wilder out. The gameplay may be different from ultra defensive if it's a coach like Freddy.
 
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