“18 reasons not to get the vaccine” anybody use these on y’all?

[AnonymityX1000]

What does that have to do with Coronavirus?

Does Coronavirus not exist?

1. There is a pandemic occuring due to a virus.
2. The US government is asking everyone to take a vaccine because of the virus.
3. Their is historical precedent for the government telling Black people to take a vaccine when it is a placebo and they actually want to see the effects of an illness long term.
4. The government is still run by a succesive regime as the same people who lied to Black people and caused them very avoidable harm.

It's pretty simple.

 

[the cac mamba]

I'm pretty sure that's illegal and probably unethical

But I wouldn't have any problem with hospitals charging unvaccinated COVID patients out the ass for treatment and their insurance going up

you guys are losing me

-you want to force vaccination, but you don't really mean going door to door and forcing vaccination

-hospitals filling up is a problem, but hospitals saving space for people besides unvaccinated covid patients is also a problem

this kind of inconsistency is why my position is; the vaccine is out. take it, or dont take it, but government needs to just leave the general public alone. theres just no other consistent, rational position on the table

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

so you're not really about that life when it comes to consequences got it

From a private business????????? Are you fukking kidding me? This is where our ideologies come to a head for some strange reason you trust an entity dedicated solely to their bottom line. Which is absolutely lunacy.

That's libertarian fantasyland bullshyt.

 

[acri1]

you guys are losing me

-you want to force vaccination, but you don't really mean going door to door and forcing vaccination

-hospitals filling up is a problem, but hospitals saving space for people besides unvaccinated covid patients is also a problem

this kind of inconsistency is why my position is; the vaccine is out. take it, or dont take it, but government needs to just leave the general public alone. theres just no other consistent, rational position on the table

I'm not for forcing anybody to get the vaccination, I just don't think we should act like COVID is all of a sudden not an issue anymore because the vaccine is out.


Not only because it is, but from politically people are just gonna blame Dems for hospitals being full of unvaccinated COVID patients.

 

[the cac mamba]

I'm not for forcing anybody to get the vaccination, I just don't think we should act like COVID is all of a sudden not an issue anymore because the vaccine is out.


Not only because it is, but from politically people are just gonna blame Dems for hospitals being full of unvaccinated COVID patients.

no they wont theyll blame republicans. theyll blame fox news

because every democrat is actively pushing the vaccine. CNN is pushing the vaccine. the president is pushing the vaccine

so if dems go hands off, the blame naturally shifts to the right. the resisters

this is what's killing me about biden's approach. i cant stand to watch him meekly take the blame for this

"mission accomplished" was full vaccine availability. there IS no mission to accomplish after that

 

[the cac mamba]

From a private business????????? Are you fukking kidding me? This is where our ideologies come to a head for some strange reason you trust an entity dedicated solely to their bottom line. Which is absolutely lunacy.

That's libertarian fantasyland bullshyt.

this has nothing to do with their bottom line covid overflow is GOOD for their bottom line. patients=business

you're the one pushing the morality angle

 

[Yapdatfool]

so you're not really about that life when it comes to consequences got it

Insurance companies are about that life though, some have surcharges for unvaxxed people. Others are beginning to cover covid like any other disease or deny coverage for unvaxx people...

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

this has nothing to do with their bottom line covid overflow is GOOD for their bottom line. patients=business

you're the one pushing the morality angle

That is 100% not true, you’re not even trying anymore, like it’s pretty well known by anyone paying attention that COVID is absolutely killing hospital revenue not to mention the strain it’s putting on their workforce

Hospitals Knew How to Make Money. Then Coronavirus Happened. (Published 2020)

Federal COVID-19 cash saved most hospitals from bleakest forecasts: MedPAC


Hospitals Lose Money, Volume as Covid Fears Keep Patients Away

Hospitals could lose between $53B and $122B this year due to pandemic

 

[the cac mamba]

That is 100% not true, you’re not even trying anymore, like it’s pretty well known by anyone paying attention that COVID is absolutely killing hospital revenue not to mention the strain it’s putting on their workforce

Hospitals Knew How to Make Money. Then Coronavirus Happened. (Published 2020)

Federal COVID-19 cash saved most hospitals from bleakest forecasts: MedPAC


Hospitals Lose Money, Volume as Covid Fears Keep Patients Away

Hospitals could lose between $53B and $122B this year due to pandemic

articles about...hospitals that arent overflowed?

yes, they werent overflowed in 2020. they were empty in a lot of places

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

articles about...hospitals that arent overflowed?

yes, they werent overflowed in 2020. they were empty in a lot of places

here you go doing ur bad faith thing again. I even tried to help you by telling you this is clearly where our ideologies clash. You'd rather give private corporations the power to decide to lives or dies vs the government. You could've left it at that, but quickly realized how insane that sounded when I actually explained what you were advocating for

 

[the cac mamba]

here you go doing ur bad faith thing again. I even tried to help you by telling you this is clearly where our ideologies clash. You'd rather give private corporations the power to decide to lives or dies vs the government. You could've left it at that, but quickly realized how insane that sounded when I actually explained what you were advocating for

actually, individuals are being given that power, since the vaccine has been a choice since april

of all the bad faith arguments ive ever made on here, this is pretty low on the list

you're all over the place. you have more smoke for the unvaxxed than anyone in here. but when it comes to them facing consequences for their actions, you clam up? you're fulla shyt

 

[Joe Sixpack]

1. There is a pandemic occuring due to a virus.
2. The US government is asking everyone to take a vaccine because of the virus.
3. Their is historical precedent for the government telling Black people to take a vaccine when it is a placebo and they actually want to see the effects of an illness long term.
4. The government is still run by a succesive regime as the same people who lied to Black people and caused them very avoidable harm.

It's pretty simple.

None a this shyt has anything to due with this virus

 

[AnonymityX1000]

None a this shyt has anything to due with this virus

Except for the government asking people to take a vaccine when their record of doing so has a pretty big blemish that did a lot of harm to Black people.

 

[the cac mamba]

called out fox news. plus, called it a pandemic of the unvaccinated

not sure how this plays out for biden though. im fine with it, but im pretty sure this is unconstitutional

and if it's legal, why a 100 employee cutoff? why not all businesses?

edit: apparently legal under OSHA learn something new every day