'18 Midterms: Dems win House by largest midterm raw vote margin ever

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You can't say this, then say this:


And i'm not attacking you either btw. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in the "conservative dems have to pander to Trump supporters" logic and how you guys want it both ways.

“While I believe that the United States and the world should continue to pursue a cleaner energy future, I do not believe that the Paris Agreement ensures a balance between our environment and the economy,” Manchin said in a statement.
Dem senator: Paris accord did not 'balance' environment, economy

Manchin, who is running against West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey (R), revived his own viral 2010 ad, in which he was filmed shooting a climate change bill he disliked.
Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin is shooting things in campaign ads again

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) says he has no regrets about his vote last year to confirm embattled Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt.

“The decision has been made. It’s been good for West Virginia, as far as [he] helped my state,” Manchin told HuffPost on Monday. “I agree with some of his decisions. We’ve had a good working relationship.”
Joe Manchin Says He Doesn't Regret Voting To Confirm Scott Pruitt
F*ck Joe Manchin. I've never liked him.

Claire McCaskill and Joe Donnelly believe in climate change and are much more pro-environment than Manchin.

If we could some how have a 50/50 Senate or 51/49 Dem Senate with Manchin losing I would be happy.
 

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F*ck Joe Manchin. I've never liked him.

Claire McCaskill and Joe Donnelly believe in climate change and are much more pro-environment than Manchin.

If we could some how have a 50/50 Senate or 51/49 Dem Senate with Manchin losing I would be happy.
I feel what you're saying. I'm glad we're talking about climate change because it can't be confused with the overloaded term "identity politics."

McCaskill is far and away the most pro-environment of the conservative dems. Yes, Donelly has a better record than Manchin, but he ain't shyt either. This is important to point out now so we level our expectation in 2020.

That's the kicker about conservative Democrats. They run against Republicans as Democrats who don't answer to DC/the party. However, at the same time, the only reason they're even in the position they're in is because they have a fukkn "D" next to their name. They used the party legacy to make a name for themselves and then ditch the party when they're in a room of Republicans.

For all the shyt that Bernie gets, at least he's not a liar about his affiliation. He's an independent because the Dem party is too far to the right for him. Yet at the same time he votes with the Democratic party 95-99% of the time. He's a more dependable vote then actual people IN the party, yet he gets blamed for splitting the party in 2.

Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-IN)
Poor climate change voting record

Sen. Joe Joe Donnelly was among three Democratic Senators to break with their party and vote to repeal the Environmental Protection Agency's Clean Power Plan—a key climate change policy that would limit greenhouse gas emissions from coal power plants.

"EPA had an opportunity to encourage Indiana to continue to innovate and diversify our energy portfolio in a way that was good for our environment and good for Indiana's economy. The final rule, however, completely missed the mark…. This rule seems designed to establish by regulation the "cap and trade' plan that I voted against in 2009."
Indiana's Climate Change Deniers

Indiana senate candidates got another chance at this question. Some say they failed again.

Indiana senate candidates got a second chance to offer their best policies on climate change at Tuesday evening's debate.

And as far as environmental leaders are concerned, for the second time, they blew it.

"My gut reaction was sadness filled with enormous frustration that none of the candidates seemed to be taking the issue seriously," said Kerwin Olson, executive director of the Citizens Action Coalition, which advocates around energy and pollution issues in Indiana. "None of them proposed solutions."

During both debates, Republican challenger Mike Braun touted his history as a "steward of the land" for raising hardwood trees for timber in his hometown. He also mentioned the need for energy independence and railed against big government.

Democratic Senator Joe Donnelly returned repeatedly to increasing ethanol production and cleaning up the environment.

And Libertarian candidate Lucy Brenton focused on the benefits of hemp as an alternative to corn-based biofuels and cleaning plastics out of the ocean.

All three candidates made remarks about the importance of protecting the environment. None of them offered any specific policy actions to combat climate change.

Should climate change have been part of the debate?

None of the candidates has featured climate change as a major part of their platforms.

All candidates "missed the chance to note that the United States is falling behind China in being a global leader in climate-solving technologies like solar energy and high speed rail," Kharbanda said in an email to the Star, adding that these are areas that could come with economic investments for Indiana.

"It’s just sad that these candidates are choosing to dodge the questions on climate change," said Olson of the Citizens Action Coalition.
Indiana senate candidates get second chance at climate change question


For Joe Donnelly, a Long History of Bucking His Party
He voted against the climate change legislation championed by Democrats in 2009 that would have established a cap-and-trade system on greenhouse gas emissions.
For Joe Donnelly, a Long History of Bucking His Party
 

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Unless they're assuming the independent voters in AZ are overwhelmingly leaning towards Dems, how is this a bad look for Republicans? The math here clearly shows most of the new voters outside independents are Republicans.
I'll have to do some digging for the infographic, but nationally independents have been leaning Democratic for some time now.

This was also just released: Independents also preferred Sinema to McSally, with a 58 percent to 32 percent split.
Sinema Outpaces McSally in Poll With Help From Early Voters, Independents

Edit: Good question though!
 
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