12/11 ESPN: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Richard Commey

[chunky_mcdaniels]

I know I do, if Bob Arum as wasted all his time hyping up Lomachenko, it's been a waste time a complete failure, if you would've used all that promo for Crawford he would be the A side against Spence by now, Loma's best win at 135 is linares they same as Haney, he ducked Haney, he's not next in line for a title shot, they had to create a new WBO belt unfortunately for Lomachenko he only has supporters on the internet, he is only known on the internet by people who don't spend money on boxing, he not a draw, Kambosos has two choices, unify with haney or go for the money fight with Tank fighting Lomachenko gives him nothing

What about Garcia for the exposure, MMA afficionados/troglodytes, easier fight (aside from his nice lead left.) Either that or some bum.

Pad out the earnings if you can. This 135 belt is a hot potato.

Then follow up with winner of Haney and whomever he fights next?

 

[Master Teacher]

What about Garcia for the exposure, MMA afficionados/troglodytes, easier fight (aside from his nice lead left.) Either that or some bum.

Pad out the earnings if you can. This 135 belt is a hot potato.

Then follow up with winner of Haney and whomever he fights next?

Garcia is a non factor, he don't sell tickets, his popularity is overrated and doesn't translate offline, if he was really popular on social media he would be selling like Logan and Jake Paul, none his online popularity translate to boxing, he a non factor, he need to fight Isaac Cruz since he called him easy and disrespected him, Garcia gave up his right to anything when he backed out Fortuna fight backed out of Jojo Diaz fight, and the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in boxing he was the mandatory challenger for Devin Haney's WBC title and he turned the fight down, why are we even talking about Ryan Garcia

As for Loma he need to fight Shakur Stevenson or fight Devin Haney next, and Kambosos can fight Tank since he's the WBA regular champ and mandatory for his WBA belt

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Garcia is a non factor, he don't sell tickets, his popularity is overrated and doesn't translate offline, if he was really popular on social media he would be selling like Logan and Jake Paul, none his online popularity translate to boxing, he a non factor, he need to fight Isaac Cruz since he called him easy and disrespected him, Garcia gave up his right to anything when he backed out Fortuna fight backed out of Jojo Diaz fight, and the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in boxing he was the mandatory challenger for Devin Haney's WBC title and he turned the fight down, why are we even talking about Ryan Garcia

As for Loma he need to fight Shakur Stevenson or fight Devin Haney next, and Kambosos can fight Tank since he's the WBA regular champ and mandatory for his WBA belt

Well that's the point.

If Kambosos/Di Bella lure Garcia to a title shot he's theirs psychologically (much like with young Lopez. Young and filled with self doubt.)

Haney, Davis, Loma, these are all seasoned prizefighters, they're not getting overwhelmed or psyched out at this stage.

Obviously Garcia is a puff pastry, but he does have a brand, Eddy Reynoso etc.

I doubt Kambosos and his team care about whether Garcia sells at this stage (which he has the capacity to), they'll be filling out 80,000 seat stadium in Australia, they just want to make fights they think they can win, like what all the other pro's do.

The next fight after that will be against Haney in my humble opinion.

What's Di Bellas relationship with PBC/swooshy box raw tracksuit like?

 

[TheNig]

Where is he now? It's like he's dead..any flash in the pan can look good for 5 fights or better but get put in their proper place by a superior talent. Michael Nunn looked great until James Toney wore him down and knocked him out. Loma is fighting nobodies...that white media love for the boy you got means shyt to me, kid. Wrestling or not.

Linares, Walters, GRJ, Campbell, and Pedraza are nobodies?

And if a fighter's had a 5 fight run, that's 2 to 2.5 years of being on top. That's pretty damn impressive in this post Floyd era where keeping that 0 means everything.

 

[TheNig]

Lomachenko is older than Tank and was giving Title shots by Top Rank

If Floyd Mayweather turned PRO was able to fight for the title his very first fight he would've won that fight

Stop with the dumb ass games

He lost to Salido then fought Gary Russel who was a prospect at the time for the same vacant WBO Belt he should lost the fight for lmao It's a sham

none of these belts and titles mean shyt today, undisputed has become a troll and a fukking joke, and tool used by promoters to manipulate the gulliable ass fans

Leo santa Cruz is a bigger name than anybody Loma fought, I mean Leo isn't a draw, he can't sell tickets, nobody cares when he fights, just look at the coverage for this fight, Isaac Cruz got more buzz around his name for fighting Tank than Loma had fighting tonight,

Bob arum is trying to use his political connections to ease Loma into a fight, and even if he beats Kambosos, nobody will care except his stans, Teo was a non factor when he was champion, he couldn't sell tickets, at the end of the day one of these nikkaz have any fans except for Tank, that's the reality, none of these nikkaz move the needle except for Tank, none of these nikkaz can draw except for Tank

That's mostly true but TMT needs to take the kid gloves off Davis.

If we've learned anything this year, we've learned that cross promotion is certainly possible.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Commey didn't have Lopez's quickness and precision to keep up the pace with Loma, he was a dog though, still got some good shots in. Loma was looking like Loma against any opponent that he can mentally overwhelm and get into his flow against though it never got to the point of Commey giving up.


Overall a very good performance, still got the feeling though that Loma will either get into his flow and be on a roll from then or he will look lost if someone neutralizes his A game, like Lopez did last year.
He's a fighter with great skills and technical repertoire who looks phenomenal against opponents he can overwhelm but if plan A doesn't work on someone then he's fukked. It's only the very best guys are capable of shutting down that plan A though.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Some ppl really tried to claim Loma was just honestly looking out for Commey when he pleaded his corner to stop the fight

Nah, that's just Loma being arrogant as hell, he's just going a different way about it than most, Commey was hurt but wasn't THAT hurt, he finished the fight too so...

Loma likes to treat his opponents like they are just children or something of that vein, told Commey he can ease up at the end of round 1 or 2, didn't directly talk trash at him but started to debate his corner why they don't stop the fight like Commey wasn't just in front of him listening to everything... He likes to humiliate these opponents, it is what it is, he's just not loud or openly mean with it but masks it with this magistrate behavior.

Many of his fans never gonna admit this though as Loma is the good boy in their minds who's put up as an example as opposed to "cocky" Americans like Lopez, Haney or Tank

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Some ppl really tried to claim Loma was just honestly looking out for Commey when he pleaded his corner to stop the fight

Nah, that's just Loma being arrogant as hell, he's just going a different way about it than most, Commey was hurt but wasn't THAT hurt, he finished the fight too so...

Loma likes to treat his opponents like they are just children or something of that vein, told Commey he can ease up at the end of round 1 or 2, didn't directly talk trash at him but started to debate his corner why they don't stop the fight like Commey wasn't just in front of him listening to everything... He likes to humiliate these opponents, it is what it is, he's just not loud or openly mean with it but masks it with this magistrate behavior.

Many of his fans never gonna admit this though as Loma is the good boy in their minds who's put up as an example as opposed to "cocky" Americans like Lopez, Haney or Tank

Agree with all of that.

Although Commey was about to go down again and just pulled his feet up.

Wasn't fit enough. At least he wasn't fit to the level of Lomachenko fights.

He, Spence, Crawford are the benchmark in this regard between 130-150. Volume upon volume.

 

[R=G]

Commey didn't have Lopez's quickness and precision to keep up the pace with Loma, he was a dog though, still got some good shots in. Loma was looking like Loma against any opponent that he can mentally overwhelm and get into his flow against though it never got to the point of Commey giving up.


Overall a very good performance, still got the feeling though that Loma will either get into his flow and be on a roll from then or he will look lost if someone neutralizes his A game, like Lopez did last year.
He's a fighter with great skills and technical repertoire who looks phenomenal against opponents he can overwhelm but if plan A doesn't work on someone then he's fukked. It's only the very best guys are capable of shutting down that plan A though.

Haney decimates him...10 rounds for Haney. I don't think it's much of a fight. I see why he gave that belt up instead of fighting him.

 

[R=G]

Linares, Walters, GRJ, Campbell, and Pedraza are nobodies?

And if a fighter's had a 5 fight run, that's 2 to 2.5 years of being on top. That's pretty damn impressive in this post Floyd era where keeping that 0 means everything.

Russell..yep..legit. Campbell is kind of a guy never gets the job done. Pedraza is like seen as dead after the Tank fight but he messed up Loma's face. Now if someone elite fought Loma...he gets knocked out. I always thought Mikey or Tank decimates him. Haney humiliates him.

 

[NormanConnors]

Maybe Isaac Cruz was just tougher and better than people gave him credit for becuase he didn't have a name or promotion about it

Floyd had a similar fight against a guy named Jesus Chavez, and he was one of Floyd's toughest fights in his prime

Tank destroyed pedraza and Loma struggled against him but people don't hold that against Loma, but wanna discredit tank for having a broken hand, just be fair all around

Loma just went 12 with a guy Teo destroyed in 2 rounds with no effort, he fought Teo left overs two fights in a row, how does this put him back in title contention, why this guy get everything handed to him, he lost to salido for the vacant WBO belt and the next fight he gets Gary Russell for the same WBO belt, now they gave just him another WBO belt for this fight what is fair is fair

Excellent post all facts

 

[Liu Kang]

Disappointed in Loma not finishing the fight in the 7th. I partly think that he couldnt but on the other hand, they were too friendly in the build up so I can also see him not wanting to hurt the guy.

 

[NormanConnors]

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Might be trying to find a way out of not fighting Haney. His wording is pretty careful..why on earth would he fight Loma for less money and no Undisputed..doesn't make any fukking sense unless it's a disguised duck.

 

[Gunz&Butta]

Easy $280 for me.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Bruh Tank and Loma both turned pro in 2013 Look at their resumes and look who these dudes have the nerve to criticize. The guy who was unified, belts in 3 weight classes and reached the top of the p4p list meanwhile the other one got guys dudes juelzing about Isaac Cruz being a top opp.


Move like a prospect damn near a decade into you career brehs

One turned pro at teen years and one was the age of said prospect now when he turned pro