11/2 DAZN Presents: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Sergey 'Krusher' Kovalev

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Canelo bout to show a new layer to his game tomorrow. Kovalev gonna know shyt is real when that first haymaker lands



#p4pseason

 

[FreedMind]

Folks bringing up the PEDs, I tell em to check the hair samples.


We talking about 10 pounds rehydration clause - the same rehydration limit the IBF has in their championship fights - and we supposed to feel bad for Kovalev?? He didn't have to dehydrate below the 175 limit, but mufukkaz already looking for a reason to say Canelo beat Kovalev's corpse like it's Oscar Manny.

He'll be iight, those millys gone make the body blows hurt a lil less for poor Lil Kovalev.

 

[GzUp]

 

[mr. smoke weed]

not to derail this thread...im in a 7 million pound Sterling house in marble arch london..
neighbours are bunch of Arabs!! i love them...i am muslim...but yo...

throw me some fukking wu tang and affilate tunes..beacuse im fukked...

i have a few dancers with me./.and the snow white 7 dwarfs..

LMFAO

PROTECT YA fukkIN NECK

 

[Uno]

DAZN needs to get rid of LeBron's crew for 40 days. Who cares about DJ Khaled, Draymond or Maveric Carters opinion

 

[Mortal1]

I can’t believe this fight is this weekend i thought it would be later in the month. Anyway I got Canelo by decision I know he’s a good body puncher but it’s a lot for a guy to come up in weight to knock out the bigger guy.

 

[patscorpio]

Teddy Atlas Details Why Canelo is Heavy Favorite Over Kovalev
By Mitch Abramson

Published On Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:58 AM EDT

Teddy Atlas was known as a commentator who rarely held back when he was animating and berating the airwaves in 21 years at ESPN boxing.

So, it was a bit startling to hear Atlas say that he finally felt liberated, free of any checks and balances, in his new role as a podcast host on “The Fight, with Teddy Atlas.”

Fresh from taping his latest podcast, Atlas demonstrated that apparent newfound freedom, dousing any flicker of hope that Sergey Kovalev has of winning his light heavyweight title defense against Canelo Alvarez on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden on DAZN.

That size advantage that Kovalev enjoys? Won’t be a factor.

His vaunted power? His experience at the weight? His meanness? No, no, no, according to Atlas.

If Atlas were an attorney, it would be an open-and-shut case, the facts are so clear to the longtime trainer, who said he will be in Bristol, Connecticut on Saturday to help with ESPN’s coverage of the fight. He seemed to be sharpening his talking points when he spoke to BoxingScene this week on the matchup. Or is it a mismatch? By the way, Atlas is not alone. Many others believe Canelo will have his way on Saturday.

Among his main contentions:

Atlas thinks Kovalev might already be thinking of retirement with a “pretty good pension” from the lucrative payday he will receive from his fight with Canelo.

Atlas compared Kovalev to an “older car” and said Canelo has the tools to stop Kovalev late, calling Canelo the stronger fighter, even though he’s rising two weight divisions to face him.

Atlas also took time to comment on the unfortunate perception that when it comes to winning a decision against Canelo in Las Vegas, that may not be the best strategy for an opposing fighter to have.

And if Canelo wins? Atlas doesn’t believe he has any future at 175 pounds beyond Kovalev.

Forget fights against unified light heavyweight champion Artur Beterbiev, titleholder Dmitry Bivol or Atlas’ fighter, Oleksandr Gvozdyk, a former titleholder who lost to Beterbiev on Oct. 18.

But Kovalev? Totally different.

“He’s shown some erosion as a fighter, I think there’s no doubt about it, if you’re going to be honest about it, he has shown some deterioration and he probably has one foot on the other side of his career, and he might have half a foot on the side of retirement, too,” Atlas said of Kovalev, speaking to BoxingScene in a phone interview. “That’s a pretty damn good pension,” he said of Kovalev’s payday. “So, that happens to fighters.”

Atlas is not alone in his assessment of the fight. Despite Kovalev’s impressive achievements, there aren’t too many observers who think he will win.

This, even though Canelo is rising two weight classes from 160 to 175, is surrendering four inches in height, two inches in reach and has never fought as a light heavyweight.

But the advantage of youth – Canelo is seven years younger — and his upward trajectory as a fighter — Canelo has shown new wrinkles of late, suggesting he’s on the upswing while Kovalev has sometimes struggled, suffering two knockout losses in 2017 and 2018 — tells the story for most for how this encounter will play out.

It’s a little confusing, to be honest - the assumption that Canelo will whisk past Kovalev in his light heavyweight debut, but that’s the prevailing feeling that most have.

Atlas continued:

If the fight does go the distance, there’s absolutely no chance that Kovalev will win a decision in Las Vegas, he said.

“I’d like to find somebody who would buy the idea that Kovalev has a snowball’s chance in hell to get a decision when (Canelo is) the face of boxing, the biggest name in boxing, he’s the cash cow of the promoter, and he and the network gave him $360 million dollars, so please, show me a sucker and maybe I do have a bridge for him,” Atlas said. “Show me a sucker who really believes, in this sport, if you’re going to be honest about it, the way this sport works, that Kovalev has a chance to walk out of that building with a decision. I’d like to know who that guy is?”

Atlas suggested that Kovalev might still not be fully recovered from his last bout on Aug. 24 when he stopped Anthony Yarde in eleven rounds but took punishment to the point where his trainer, Buddy McGirt, even threatened to stop the fight after the eighth. That's when Atlas basically compared Kovalev to an old jalopy.

“I think taking the fight on such short notice, a couple months since his last fight, that’s kind of like having an older car, you have an older car and you go on a tough trip, you don’t go on a second tough trip right away. You put it in the shop, get an oil change, and you keep it in the garage for a little while,” Atlas said. “To me, I look at fighters the same way, coming back this fast, an older guy, coming off a tough fight, took a lot of punches late in that fight, came very close to losing it all, to being gone, and now he’s coming back quick with a younger guy, an experienced guy, a guy who can be pretty physical even though he’s the smaller guy, it could bode well for Canelo and not so well for Kovalev.”

And because Yarde even hurt Kovalev in the eventful eighth round, Atlas could see Canelo not just hurting Kovalev but finishing the job.

“I think if Canelo can get Kovalev in the same type of situation that Yarde had him late in the fight, I think Canelo can close the show a little better than Yarde did. I think there’s a chance he could stop him late in the fight.”

And what of the size difference? Can’t we at least count on Kovalev to impose his physicality on Canelo? Not in Atlas’ estimation.

“That’s another thing where it’s an illusion,” he said. “You give the advantage to the bigger guy in certain physical areas, because he’s the bigger guy, but he’s not a Samson, he’s not a physical guy. Kovalev is more of a finesse guy, he’s not a guy where he’s going to push you around. He’s not that kind of guy. He’s more of a boxer, more of a finesse guy. If anyone has the physicality, it might be the smaller guy, Canelo.”

And if anyone thinks Kovalev will win, then, judging by Atlas’ line of reasoning, it will be a pretty big upset.

 

[patscorpio]

Andre Ward: Canelo's Fighting Sergey Kovalev, Not 'The Krusher'
By Keith Idec

Published On Sat Nov 2, 2019, 03:30 AM EDT

RENO, Nevada – Andre Ward thinks the Sergey Kovalev he fought twice is long gone.

“The Krusher,” according to Ward, no longer exists. The retired Ward believes the version of Kovalev that earned that nickname – the man he edged by unanimous decision and then beat by eighth-round technical knockout – would’ve been much more difficult for Canelo Alvarez to handle Saturday night at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Since Ward’s second victory over Kovalev, however, the Russian veteran has been knocked out by Eleider Alvarez and had to overcome serious trouble to stop Anthony Yarde in the 11th round of his last fight. Kovalev came back to out-box Eleider Alvarez in their 12-round rematch February 2 and knocked out Yarde with just a jab August 24.

Colombia’s Alvarez and England’s Yarde were undefeated when Kovalev beat them.

Nevertheless, the Alvarez he’ll encounter Saturday night is Kovalev’s most formidable foe since he faced Ward. Mexico’s Alvarez (52-1-2, 35 KOs) is four inches shorter than Kovalev (34-3-1, 29 KOs) and has moved up two divisions to challenge the WBO light heavyweight champion, but Ward would be surprised if Kovalev wins.

Ward primarily is skeptical of Kovalev’s chances because he doesn’t see the same fierce fighter he fended off twice. The ESPN commentator broke down the Alvarez-Kovalev fight for a group of reporters following Shakur Stevenson’s unanimous-decision win against Joet Gonzalez in a WBO featherweight title fight Saturday night at Reno-Sparks Convention Center.

“I didn’t see the big right hand against Yarde,” said Ward, who is Stevenson’s co-manager. “Watched the whole fight. I called the fight. I didn’t see it. Saw a good jab, but I saw an aging fighter. I saw a fighter who doesn’t have the confidence he once had. And he’s no longer ‘The Krusher.’ It’s no knock on him. He’s Kovalev now. He’s Sergey Kovalev. There’s a difference. That guy’s long gone. He’s been long gone. So, Canelo’s fighting Sergey Kovalev. Still very formidable. Still solid. Still dangerous. But he’s not that guy anymore.

“The first six rounds are gonna be very interesting. The best I think Canelo can do is get out of there 3-3, 4-2, even if he’s, you know, won two rounds and Kovalev won four, and then step it up that last half of the fight. But Canelo’s gonna have to be in the lion’s den to get the work in that he wants to get in.”

The risks aside, Ward expects Canelo to do damage to Kovalev’s body. He’s not convinced, though, that Kovalev can make Alvarez pay by landing body blows of his own.

“I heard Buddy McGirt say that, you know, Kovalev’s gonna hit to the body,” Ward said. “But Kovalev has never hit to the body. He’s not trained like that. That’s not his foundation. So, it’s late in the game to try to teach this man to start hitting to the body. He may land some [body] shots, but he gonna be in range to get hit. It’s too late for that.

“So, you may be able to teach him one or two things, like, ‘Hey, stick him down there.’ But an all-out body attack, he gonna get hit, hit more. So, I’ve gone back and forth. I can see Canelo stopping him late. I can see it being a close fight. If I had to choose, I’m gonna go with Canelo late. Or maybe even a decision.”

 

[R=G]

Lmao...reality check for everyone's favorite red headed Mexican fanbase

 

[R=G]

Teddy Atlas Details Why Canelo is Heavy Favorite Over Kovalev
By Mitch Abramson

Published On Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:58 AM EDT


Teddy Atlas was known as a commentator who rarely held back when he was animating and berating the airwaves in 21 years at ESPN boxing.

So, it was a bit startling to hear Atlas say that he finally felt liberated, free of any checks and balances, in his new role as a podcast host on “The Fight, with Teddy Atlas.”

Fresh from taping his latest podcast, Atlas demonstrated that apparent newfound freedom, dousing any flicker of hope that Sergey Kovalev has of winning his light heavyweight title defense against Canelo Alvarez on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden on DAZN.

That size advantage that Kovalev enjoys? Won’t be a factor.

His vaunted power? His experience at the weight? His meanness? No, no, no, according to Atlas.

If Atlas were an attorney, it would be an open-and-shut case, the facts are so clear to the longtime trainer, who said he will be in Bristol, Connecticut on Saturday to help with ESPN’s coverage of the fight. He seemed to be sharpening his talking points when he spoke to BoxingScene this week on the matchup. Or is it a mismatch? By the way, Atlas is not alone. Many others believe Canelo will have his way on Saturday.

Among his main contentions:

Atlas thinks Kovalev might already be thinking of retirement with a “pretty good pension” from the lucrative payday he will receive from his fight with Canelo.

Atlas compared Kovalev to an “older car” and said Canelo has the tools to stop Kovalev late, calling Canelo the stronger fighter, even though he’s rising two weight divisions to face him.

Atlas also took time to comment on the unfortunate perception that when it comes to winning a decision against Canelo in Las Vegas, that may not be the best strategy for an opposing fighter to have.

And if Canelo wins? Atlas doesn’t believe he has any future at 175 pounds beyond Kovalev.

Forget fights against unified light heavyweight champion Artur Beterbiev, titleholder Dmitry Bivol or Atlas’ fighter, Oleksandr Gvozdyk, a former titleholder who lost to Beterbiev on Oct. 18.

But Kovalev? Totally different.

“He’s shown some erosion as a fighter, I think there’s no doubt about it, if you’re going to be honest about it, he has shown some deterioration and he probably has one foot on the other side of his career, and he might have half a foot on the side of retirement, too,” Atlas said of Kovalev, speaking to BoxingScene in a phone interview. “That’s a pretty damn good pension,” he said of Kovalev’s payday. “So, that happens to fighters.”

Atlas is not alone in his assessment of the fight. Despite Kovalev’s impressive achievements, there aren’t too many observers who think he will win.

This, even though Canelo is rising two weight classes from 160 to 175, is surrendering four inches in height, two inches in reach and has never fought as a light heavyweight.

But the advantage of youth – Canelo is seven years younger — and his upward trajectory as a fighter — Canelo has shown new wrinkles of late, suggesting he’s on the upswing while Kovalev has sometimes struggled, suffering two knockout losses in 2017 and 2018 — tells the story for most for how this encounter will play out.

It’s a little confusing, to be honest - the assumption that Canelo will whisk past Kovalev in his light heavyweight debut, but that’s the prevailing feeling that most have.

Atlas continued:

If the fight does go the distance, there’s absolutely no chance that Kovalev will win a decision in Las Vegas, he said.

“I’d like to find somebody who would buy the idea that Kovalev has a snowball’s chance in hell to get a decision when (Canelo is) the face of boxing, the biggest name in boxing, he’s the cash cow of the promoter, and he and the network gave him $360 million dollars, so please, show me a sucker and maybe I do have a bridge for him,” Atlas said. “Show me a sucker who really believes, in this sport, if you’re going to be honest about it, the way this sport works, that Kovalev has a chance to walk out of that building with a decision. I’d like to know who that guy is?”



Atlas suggested that Kovalev might still not be fully recovered from his last bout on Aug. 24 when he stopped Anthony Yarde in eleven rounds but took punishment to the point where his trainer, Buddy McGirt, even threatened to stop the fight after the eighth. That's when Atlas basically compared Kovalev to an old jalopy.

“I think taking the fight on such short notice, a couple months since his last fight, that’s kind of like having an older car, you have an older car and you go on a tough trip, you don’t go on a second tough trip right away. You put it in the shop, get an oil change, and you keep it in the garage for a little while,” Atlas said. “To me, I look at fighters the same way, coming back this fast, an older guy, coming off a tough fight, took a lot of punches late in that fight, came very close to losing it all, to being gone, and now he’s coming back quick with a younger guy, an experienced guy, a guy who can be pretty physical even though he’s the smaller guy, it could bode well for Canelo and not so well for Kovalev.”

And because Yarde even hurt Kovalev in the eventful eighth round, Atlas could see Canelo not just hurting Kovalev but finishing the job.

“I think if Canelo can get Kovalev in the same type of situation that Yarde had him late in the fight, I think Canelo can close the show a little better than Yarde did. I think there’s a chance he could stop him late in the fight.”

And what of the size difference? Can’t we at least count on Kovalev to impose his physicality on Canelo? Not in Atlas’ estimation.

“That’s another thing where it’s an illusion,” he said. “You give the advantage to the bigger guy in certain physical areas, because he’s the bigger guy, but he’s not a Samson, he’s not a physical guy. Kovalev is more of a finesse guy, he’s not a guy where he’s going to push you around. He’s not that kind of guy. He’s more of a boxer, more of a finesse guy. If anyone has the physicality, it might be the smaller guy, Canelo.”

And if anyone thinks Kovalev will win, then, judging by Atlas’ line of reasoning, it will be a pretty big upset.

Duh...a cherry pick. He damn sure wouldnt fight the other top 175 champions...lol. He wont even fight Andrade

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

More predictions


"Canelo got huge nuts going up this high"- J Rock







The respect and admiration canelo gets from his peers is beautiful to see



Pretty much all of em believe this is a close ass fight too. Real fighters. Not neckbeard virgins who stalk pornstars on Twitter

 

[krackdagawd]

Ggg fans going out sad today boy. nikkas scouring the net for anything to discredit the Cartel.

This fight is a huge risk bigger than anything golovkin ever did and theres nothing you can do about except watch

Canelo do what he always do #Cartelshyt

Thread already doing more numbers than ggg last fight

 

[desjardins]

Y’all are just as bad as the GGG fans you claim to hate. So he’s a fraud but Canelo went life and death with him? So what does that make Canelo then?

Only people I see talking about GGG every thread are people hating on him
Why is there 10+ replies in here about GGG
Maybe I have his stans blocked or something, otherwise it’s no reason for GGG to occupy this much real estate in brehs heads

 

[patscorpio]

Only people I see talking about GGG every thread are people hating on him
Why is there 10+ replies in here about GGG
Maybe I have his stans blocked or something, otherwise it’s no reason for GGG to occupy this much real estate in brehs heads

Right and they are the same ones talmbout "why can't we talk about and analyze canelo vs kovalev? This is wack" ...its hilarious

 

[R=G]

More predictions


"Canelo got huge nuts going up this high"- J Rock







The respect and admiration canelo gets from his peers is beautiful to see



Pretty much all of em believe this is a close ass fight too. Real fighters. Not neckbeard virgins who stalk pornstars on Twitter

Says a cocksucker for a Mexican fighter who is afraid of black fighters. Got the nerve to say stalker when you in every Spence and Canelo thread crying like a little bytch..Johnny behaviour..Billy behavior. Gay shyt.