10 Years Later, Is Dark Knight Still The Best?

[MartyMcFly]

TDK still the best...

Somethings haven't aged as well, but its still the best overall.

I think TDK is a better movie, but I can understand those who think BB is a better Batman movie.


However, if BP just had better CGI/action and 15 more mins of run time

Just needed a better 3rd act climax for real. Probably one lesss reliant on CG but with the same personal stakes. That’s why dark knights climax works because it’s all personal shyt without looking too cartoony and not being this huge battle.

Dark knight got away with meh fight scenes so panther can skate on that as well. But essentially the third act themes are the same for both movies: a battle for the soul of this perspective place and what type of people are they going to be? Killmonger and joker both want to prove their way of thinking is correct and that Bruce and T’Challa are outdated and wrong.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Nothing. I'm saying it was the undisputed best before and now there are a handful of movies that I'd consider just as good, if not better.

Fred.

Yeah I’d consider the ones you listed as possibly on the same footing but not better. Can’t cross that bridge yet. I might in a few years or if they have the same staying power for me. I’ve watched dark knight for 10 years now and haven’t gotten tired of it

 

[hex]

Yeah I’d consider the ones you listed as possibly on the same footing but not better. Can’t cross that bridge yet. I might in a few years or if they have the same staying power for me. I’ve watched dark knight for 10 years now and haven’t gotten tired of it

This is just how my mind works....but when I seen "The Winter Soldier" (for example) I immediately thought it was on the level of "The Dark Knight". And in the 4 years since then I haven't even briefly second guessed that.

Now, I'm not going to listen to an album or go see a movie and 5 minutes later say it's classic, GOAT status or anything like that....but as far as my own personal opinion, how I initially judge things, I rarely if ever waver from that. So 5, 10, 15 years, isn't going to make much difference for me.

Fred.

 

[MartyMcFly]

This is just how my mind works....but when I seen "The Winter Soldier" (for example) I immediately thought it was on the level of "The Dark Knight". And in the 4 years since then I haven't even briefly second guessed that.

Now, I'm not going to listen to an album or go see a movie and 5 minutes later say it's classic, GOAT status or anything like that....but as far as my own personal opinion, how I initially judge things, I rarely if ever waver from that. So 5, 10, 15 years, isn't going to make much difference for me.

Fred.

Word I feel that. I rarely do that lol. Like it’s happened but it’s really really rare for me when it does. Like I can immediately tell if I love something but I don’t really rank it instantly. I gotta take my time with it. And see how it marinates for me etc

 

[Black Bolt]

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[Poetical Poltergeist]

This is just how my mind works....but when I seen "The Winter Soldier" (for example) I immediately thought it was on the level of "The Dark Knight". And in the 4 years since then I haven't even briefly second guessed that.

Now, I'm not going to listen to an album or go see a movie and 5 minutes later say it's classic, GOAT status or anything like that....but as far as my own personal opinion, how I initially judge things, I rarely if ever waver from that. So 5, 10, 15 years, isn't going to make much difference for me.

Fred.

I can put Logan up there because I love it's brutality and overall grittyness and consequences. Winter soldier does nothing for me for some reason and mainly just bores me or maybe it's because I just don't give a rat's ass about Captain America. That's probably it.

 

[Tenchi Ryu]

My number 1 will always be Spider-man 2.

That represented everything that a superhero movie is imho.....

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Yes. In my top 5 goat films.

 

[Ukbrotha]

Black Panther is the best.

 

[StraxStrax]

Brace yourself...

Don't get me wrong, The Godfather is good film. It's probably in my top 100.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Don't get me wrong, The Godfather is good film. It's probably in my top 100.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

TDK doesn’t even touch Heat if we’re being honest with ourselves.

Well no. Heat has the greatest action sequence ever filmed. Nolan is not on Mann's level in terms of shooting action, not even close.

But this thread is about CBM's not about all time classic crime dramas like Heat

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Don't get me wrong, The Godfather is good film. It's probably in my top 100.

Yes, it's a decent flick.

Well no. Heat has the greatest action sequence ever filmed.

That's up for debate.

 

[LordDeathwatch]

It's no longer the best but it's still among the best. I'd put "Logan", "The Winter Soldier", "Black Panther" and "Civil War" right next to it.

"The Dark Knight Rises" was awful. Let's keep it real here.

None of this matters though because Thanos is about to crush the buildings.

Fred.

My thoughts exactly minus IW, gotta manage those expectations.

But on some real shyt, if you're a listener/gamer/reader/film head, you just know when you partake in something special. It's like meeting your other half, there's no analysis, no waiting period, you can feel that shyt immediately and you know it's different from anything else. That feeling is what sets those rare instances apart from everything else.

 

[MartyMcFly]

My thoughts exactly minus IW, gotta manage those expectations.

But on some real shyt, if you're a listener/gamer/reader/film head, you just know when you partake in something special. It's like meeting your other half, there's no analysis, no waiting period, you can feel that shyt immediately and you know it's different from anything else. That feeling is what sets those rare instances apart from everything else.

See that I get. The feeling shyt. But my brain won’t let me start comparing and ranking shyt in my head like that until I sit with it for a minute. I’m impetuous only to a point. When it comes to start comparing and contrasting I get real philosophical and intellectual. Like when I saw panther I knew that shyt was special. That was a feeling I had instantly. But do I think it’s better than dark knight? Not yet. Could be. But not yet. Like I told @hex ive had 10 years to sit with dark knight and explore it and rewatch it and even used it for part of my graduate thesis.

Like when I listened to the blueprint back in 01 I knew that shyt was special. Like extremely special. shyt Momma Loves Me still brings me to tears. But I wasn’t ready to say it’s better than reasonable doubt at the time

Now? I’m more inclined to at least consider it is better although I prefer the former